Non-UND FCS Thread

[bison73]

58 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

And despite what they have accomplished over the past 6 years, it doesn't change the fact that four out of their first five games were against teams that would struggle to beat the top teams in the NSIC. If they want to continue to b!tch and moan about how soft our schedule is, then they should expect the same treatment from us. I don't go on Bisonville and make comments like that, but if they want to come here and do that, then they should expect some backlash. And that is what they will get from me.

There is a sense from their fan base that nobody will come within three touchdowns of them from now to Frisco. Obviously, that notion will be tested as they move into the meat of the MVFC schedule. If they can run the table in the regular season, the quality of their first five teams won't matter to me or anyone else. But to say it is wrong to point out the softness of their schedule so far is pure hogwash. It is a legitimate point and legitimate topic of conversation. And if it was UND with NDSU's schedule, I would say the same thing.

It is almost like there is some unwritten rule that UND fans are not supposed to talk about certain things with regard to NDSU and that is pure horse@%^&. I'll bring up whatever I want with them. This is a rivalry and that is how rivalries work. I would rather walk barefoot on hot, molten glass than cheerlead for them.

Dont paint the whole fan base by the mouth of a few fanatics. I dont think all UND fans are like Darryl and SV.

Of course our schedule has been soft. Who said it wasnt? EWU might be an exception but we wont know until the next few games to find out if EWU gave us any competition or not.

[UNDBIZ]

25 minutes ago, TX Bison said:

Listen, I didn't even know this site existed until a few days ago and wanted to see what your fan base was saying regarding the unforeseen losses and recent arrests.  Then I committed a mortal sin by misquoting a guy who said he would walk on hot, molten glass.  Yikes.  You guys take this pretty seriously.

I know where you can get some weed to take the edge off.  

[bison73]

57 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Very funny. I am not suggesting you guys schedule two FBS money games and three games vs. Top 5 FCS teams. My point is that you don't prove anything by running up the score against teams like Mississippi Valley State. The meat of the MVFC schedule is coming up. That will tell us more about them.

We didnt run up the score.  The game was basically over after MSVS first 3 possessions where they turned the ball over 3 times and we scored. In what the first 4-5 minutes. Geez.

[TX Bison]

I'm not a troll.  I just have to shine a big, bright light on social injustices.

[UNDColorado]

1 minute ago, TX Bison said:

I'm not a troll.  I just have to shine a big, bright light on social injustices.

Best to take a knee then, that'll show em!

[TX Bison]

Every Sunday morning!

 

[bison73]

4 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Best to take a knee then, that'll show em!

  Nicely played!!!!

[bison73]

59 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

NDSU has a hard time getting FBS games and buying cheaper money home games, however I don't buy that NDSU would have a hard time scheduling home/homes with other FCS schools. For their own various reasons/guidelines, they choose not to do it very often, but lumping that in with the other two and claiming that agreeing to those deals is extremely difficult is BS..

Of course I didnt expect your opinion to be any different.

[TX Bison]

6 hours ago, Bison06 said:

I think Youngstown is overrated this year, we’ll see this weekend, but I think their defense is suspect after losing two draft picks on the DL. I think they’ll miss the playoffs. We’ll see on the other two.

Agreed, QB remains an issue and the back-end of their D is looking rough.  I think Stick and Co light them up.  If SDSU could have stayed on the field, they would have had a chance but :08 TOP makes it hard to win.

[jdub27]

5 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Of course I didnt expect your opinion to be any different.

What team is going to turn down a chance to bring NDSU in for the price of whatever it costs to send their team to Fargo?

[bison73]

25 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

What team is going to turn down a chance to bring NDSU in for the price of whatever it costs to send their team to Fargo?

Give JJ a call he can give you those details. I dont have the information to elaborate or speculate on specifics.

[JohnboyND7]

8 hours ago, darell1976 said:

 No NDSU at UND, oh wait that one is coming in 2020 (no getting around that one). 

2020 conference schedule released yet?

You are aware there is a very legitimate chance that the conference schedule sets up so UND is in Fargo right?

2017 - VS. USD, UNI, MO St. Western@ SDSU 

2018 - @USD, UNI, Mo St, Western   Vs. SDSU

2019 Vs. USD, UNI, MO St, Western @SDSU

?????2020  Vs. SDSU, UND @USD UNI MO ST and Western? 

Not sure they have any idea yet on how they'll be scheduling in the future.

 

 

[geaux_sioux]

3 hours ago, UNDColorado said:

There are only a couple posters on here who will try to say NDSU is not a good team. 

And they’re not afraid to give you the neg rep either

[TX Bison]

43 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

And they’re not afraid to give you the neg rep either

We all have "fans" like that.  No one can rip their own team like a passionate supporter.  

[petey23]

2 hours ago, bison73 said:

Dont paint the whole fan base by the mouth of a few fanatics. I dont think all UND fans are like Darryl and SV.

Of course our schedule has been soft. Who said it wasnt? EWU might be an exception but we wont know until the next few games to find out if EWU gave us any competition or not.

I couldn't agree more. I have always said it really is just the few rotten thousands of Bison fans that ruin it for the other 50.

[bison73]

23 minutes ago, petey23 said:

I couldn't agree more. I have always said it really is just the few rotten thousands of Bison fans that ruin it for the other 50.

[Siouxphan27]

2 hours ago, petey23 said:

I couldn't agree more. I have always said it really is just the few rotten thousands of Bison fans that ruin it for the other 50.

I think you're exaggerating. 

No way there's 50...

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Is it OK to come out?   If:   they are troll detected, read it too fast, confused, think they know cupcakes, are really smart FCS fans, think January runner up is suspect, smoke weed to take off the edge, then they must be pretty tough. 

[jdub27]

7 hours ago, bison73 said:

You were on point about trying to get teams to schedule us. Extremely difficult.

 

5 hours ago, bison73 said:

Give JJ a call he can give you those details. I dont have the information to elaborate or speculate on specifics.

So do you know how difficult it is or not? You're talking out of both sides here, you definitively proclaim how difficult it is and then deflect when I call BS on the home/home thing. I've yet to hear of a single team turning down a game in Fargo if NDSU returns the favor (Montana State doesn't count, they paid the agreed upon buyout to fulfill that contract).

[bison73]

2 hours ago, jdub27 said:

 

So do you know how difficult it is or not? You're talking out of both sides here, you definitively proclaim how difficult it is and then deflect when I call BS on the home/home thing. I've yet to hear of a single team turning down a game in Fargo if NDSU returns the favor (Montana State doesn't count, they paid the agreed upon buyout to fulfill that contract).

OMG every time you dont get the answer you are looking for you give the same old talking out of both sides of your mouth etc etc. Cant you have a discussion with out being accusatory?

So you expect a news release  every time a school turns NDSU down ? Why do you assume if a home and home was offered that teams would jump at that offer?  From what I hear you would be wrong. 

Plus why would NDSU do a home and home if it not in our best interest and if we dont have to?

Another repeat scenario is NDSU calling a school and not getting a call back. Some schools just say a flat no to playing us without hearing the deal.

 

But you believe what you want.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, bison73 said:

OMG every time you dont get the answer you are looking for you give the same old talking out of both sides of your mouth etc etc. Cant you have a discussion with out being accusatory?

So you expect a news release  every time a school turns NDSU down ? Why do you assume if a home and home was offered that teams would jump at that offer?  From what I hear you would be wrong. 

Plus why would NDSU do a home and home if it not in our best interest and if we dont have to?

Another repeat scenario is NDSU calling a school and not getting a call back. Some schools just say a flat no to playing us without hearing the deal.

 

But you believe what you want.

The scheduling is only difficult when MooU is trying to screw over the opponent. Self inflicting, so, don't complain about how tough it is on here, what the hell do you expect, and telling dub he didn't get the answer he was looking for (accusatory?), straighten out your cross eyed eyeballs and go back to Bisonville and cry there.  Arrogance at it's best. 

Oh, and theeeeennnn you wonder why they will not call MooU back?   I can email you a map if you are really that lost!

[jdub27]

8 hours ago, bison73 said:

OMG every time you dont get the answer you are looking for you give the same old talking out of both sides of your mouth etc etc. Cant you have a discussion with out being accusatory?

So you expect a news release  every time a school turns NDSU down ? Why do you assume if a home and home was offered that teams would jump at that offer?  From what I hear you would be wrong. 

Plus why would NDSU do a home and home if it not in our best interest and if we dont have to?

Another repeat scenario is NDSU calling a school and not getting a call back. Some schools just say a flat no to playing us without hearing the deal.

 

But you believe what you want.

This bold is the key. It isn't that it's hard to get games, it's that it is hard for them to get the games they want at the price/terms they want and that fit into their scheduling philosophy. That makes a big difference when people are publicly crying about that "no one will play us" when in actuality it is "no one will play us under the terms we want". Nothing wrong with it, but it is definitely misleading. I don't think we need news releases, but they sure have not problem letting out scheduling information that makes them look like the victim, however I don't see them leaking out anything that would paint them in any other light. Their prerogative, they can do as they please.

There are tons of FCS schools who would do a home/home with NDSU, however NDSU is reluctant to do that because of how traveling to an FCS school impacts their flexibility. Matt Larsen has publicly admitted as much multiple times, so I'm not sure why you are getting all worked up over it? I'm not believing what I want, I'm going off exactly what Matt Larsen and others have said about scheduling. It doesn't take a rocket science to do the math.

As for the talking out of both sides of your mouth thing, you first comment was about how previous commentary was spot on about how "extremely difficult" it was to schedule games and your second comment was about how you don't have the information to elaborate on scheduling when in fact you already did exactly that and then did so again in the above comment. You are deflecting when it's convenient.

[darell1976]

12 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

This bold is the key. It isn't that it's hard to get games, it's that it is hard for them to get the games they want at the price/terms they want and that fit into their scheduling philosophy. That makes a big difference when people are publicly crying about that "no one will play us" when in actuality it is "no one will play us under the terms we want". Nothing wrong with it, but it is definitely misleading. I don't think we need news releases, but they sure have not problem letting out scheduling information that makes them look like the victim, however I don't see them leaking out anything that would paint them in any other light. Their prerogative, they can do as they please.

There are tons of FCS schools who would do a home/home with NDSU, however NDSU is reluctant to do that because of how traveling to an FCS school impacts their flexibility. Matt Larsen has publicly admitted as much multiple times, so I'm not sure why you are getting all worked up over it? I'm not believing what I want, I'm going off exactly what Matt Larsen and others have said about scheduling. It doesn't take a rocket science to do the math.

As for the talking out of both sides of your mouth thing, you first comment was about how previous commentary was spot on about how "extremely difficult" it was to schedule games and your second comment was about how you don't have the information to elaborate on scheduling when in fact you already did exactly that and then did so again in the above comment. You are deflecting when it's convenient.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

26 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

This bold is the key. It isn't that it's hard to get games, it's that it is hard for them to get the games they want at the price/terms they want and that fit into their scheduling philosophy. That makes a big difference when people are publicly crying about that "no one will play us" when in actuality it is "no one will play us under the terms we want". Nothing wrong with it, but it is definitely misleading.

There are tons of FCS schools who would do a home/home with NDSU, however NDSU is reluctant to do that because of how traveling to an FCS school impacts their flexibility. Matt Larsen has publicly admitted as much multiple times, so I'm not sure why you are getting all worked up over it? I'm not believing what I want, I'm going off exactly what Matt Larsen and others have said about scheduling. It doesn't take a rocket science to do the math.

As for the talking out of both sides of your mouth thing, you first comment was about how previous commentary was spot on about how "extremely difficult" it was to schedule games and your second comment was about how you don't have the information to elaborate on scheduling when in fact you already did exactly that and then did so again in the above comment. You are deflecting when it's convenient.

[bison73]

3 hours ago, jdub27 said:

This bold is the key. It isn't that it's hard to get games, it's that it is hard for them to get the games they want at the price/terms they want and that fit into their scheduling philosophy. That makes a big difference when people are publicly crying about that "no one will play us" when in actuality it is "no one will play us under the terms we want". Nothing wrong with it, but it is definitely misleading. I don't think we need news releases, but they sure have not problem letting out scheduling information that makes them look like the victim, however I don't see them leaking out anything that would paint them in any other light. Their prerogative, they can do as they please.

There are tons of FCS schools who would do a home/home with NDSU, however NDSU is reluctant to do that because of how traveling to an FCS school impacts their flexibility. Matt Larsen has publicly admitted as much multiple times, so I'm not sure why you are getting all worked up over it? I'm not believing what I want, I'm going off exactly what Matt Larsen and others have said about scheduling. It doesn't take a rocket science to do the math.

As for the talking out of both sides of your mouth thing, you first comment was about how previous commentary was spot on about how "extremely difficult" it was to schedule games and your second comment was about how you don't have the information to elaborate on scheduling when in fact you already did exactly that and then did so again in the above comment. You are deflecting when it's convenient.

Please provide a list to JJ of who will schedule us. You obviously know more than he does.

Matt Larsen has never said he wouldnt do a home and home. He said Home and Homes impacts out flexibility which is true. Some how you have extrapolated that statement to mean we wont.

Im not worked up over anything. Actually Im amused that some folks have so much heartburn over our scheduling?????.  I think we all know what the issue with some of you is. Its really not about our scheduling at all.