College Hockey Expansion

[cberkas]

Illinois announced a $300 Million campaign for athletics. Looks like hockey wouldn't be part of that $300 Million.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois/illini-announce-million-campaign-for-athletics/article_7231353b-4173-5ddb-9897-1dea4a1ab335.html

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Whitman also said the school continues to explore the feasibility of adding intercollegiate men’s hockey, but that the $300 million being raised as part of the “With Illinois” project would not cover that expense.

“We’re working with consultants and anxious to see how that works out,” Whitman said. “If we can bring hockey across the finish line that would be above and beyond; we see it as a tremendous opportunity to get a hockey program and to transform our community.”

Sources have said the university is looking at a three-rink facility with one rink designated for community use, another as a practice rink and a third as part of a 5,000-seat arena for competition.

Although the university has received encouragement from the National Hockey League and the Chicago Blackhawks, funding for the hockey facility and program would be essential and remains unresolved.

 

[Blackheart]

3 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Illinois announced a $300 Million campaign for athletics. Looks like hockey wouldn't be part of that $300 Million.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois/illini-announce-million-campaign-for-athletics/article_7231353b-4173-5ddb-9897-1dea4a1ab335.html

 

Maybe they will try to add a D1 football program first.

[SiouxVolley]

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/sports/20171109/pat-caputo-hockey-high-risk-high-reward-option-for-oakland-university

[SiouxVolley]

Appears Illinois will have a college arena now, as two developers are competing for approval, one in  downtown Champaign and one in the research park.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-11-19/two-developers-one-project-competing-ideas.html

[cberkas]

Mike McMahon‏ @MikeMcMahonCHN 1m1 minute ago 

.@collegehockey’s Mike Snee told @HockeyonCampus this weekend that 2 more schools are utilizing NHL-sponsored feasibility studies confidentially. So there are four ongoing, Illinois, Oakland Univ. and two mystery schools.

Mike McMahon‏ @MikeMcMahonCHN 59s59 seconds ago 

Replying to @MikeMcMahonCHN @collegehockey @HockeyonCampus

Snee also said they’ve had conversations with 8-10 other schools.

[cberkas]

Mike McMahon

@MikeMcMahonCHN

 

 

Lastly, Snee said he hopes the NHL and NHLPA might consider doing more than 5 studies because of the excitement and interest this partnership has generated among athletic directors and potential programs.

[MafiaMan]

13 hours ago, cberkas said:

Mike McMahon‏ @MikeMcMahonCHN 1m1 minute ago 

.@collegehockey’s Mike Snee told @HockeyonCampus this weekend that 2 more schools are utilizing NHL-sponsored feasibility studies confidentially. So there are four ongoing, Illinois, Oakland Univ. and two mystery schools.

Mike McMahon‏ @MikeMcMahonCHN 59s59 seconds ago 

Replying to @MikeMcMahonCHN @collegehockey @HockeyonCampus

Snee also said they’ve had conversations with 8-10 other schools.

BREAKING NEWS!  A feasibility study!  

[UNDBIZ]

14 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

BREAKING NEWS!  A feasibility study!  

We can already tell them the results of the study without spending a few hundred grand.  They need an on-campus arena seating 4k-7k and a $35 million endowment.

[chicofelipe]

On 11/28/2017 at 8:13 AM, UNDBIZ said:

We can already tell them the results of the study without spending a few hundred grand.  They need an on-campus arena seating 4k-7k and a $35 million endowment.

I will provide them a nice typeset report with this information for $1000.

 

[The Sicatoka]

On 11/28/2017 at 8:13 AM, UNDBIZ said:

We can already tell them the results of the study without spending a few hundred grand.  They need an on-campus arena seating 4k-7k and a $35 million endowment.

Your endowment number is low. 

[UNDBIZ]

22 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Your endowment number is low. 

I'm using the Moorhead number from a few years ago. I believe it was the ASU number too. Also, men's hockey generates revenue, so the endowment number wouldn't need to be the same.

[SiouxVolley]

There is a report that LIU Post will be adding a DII women's hockey program.   A DII program doesn't make much sense unless it is for Title IX to match a men's scholarship program.  Long Island or NYC doesn't have a DI program for either men or women.  LIU Post (formerly known as C W Post) is DII, but it has a club program for men that could move up and they are advertizing for a coach of a women's program, which will be added.  The AHA needs another school.

Nassau County Coliseum has been massively downsized in seating from its Islander days, so that may be a hosting venue.  The men's club team plays at Parkwood arena now in Great Neck, NY.

[cberkas]

1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said:

There is a report that LIU Post will be adding a DII women's hockey program.   A DII program doesn't make much sense unless it is for Title IX to match a men's scholarship program.  Long Island or NYC doesn't have a DI program for either men or women.  LIU Post (formerly known as C W Post) is DII, but it has a club program for men that could move up and they are advertizing for a coach of a women's program, which will be added.  The AHA needs another school.

Nassau County Coliseum has been massively downsized in seating from its Islander days, so that may be a hosting venue.  The men's club team plays at Parkwood arena now in Great Neck, NY.

Here’s what you are referring to.

https://www.theicegarden.com/2017/12/3/16699430/long-island-university-liu-post-pioneers-new-ncaa-d2-womens-ice-hockey-program-expansion

The women’s DII teams have started to play against DI teams which can make them eligible for the NCAA DI Tournament. I could see the men’s DII teams finding a way to be eligible for the men’s NCAA DI Tournament. I wouldn’t look to much into them adding a women’s team meaning they’re adding a men’s team. Then add in the whole DII schools can’t have a DI team that has come up. 

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament

Stony Brook is a club them that has been mentioned as a possible future DI team, but no real proof that they have even looked at adding DI hockey.

[SiouxVolley]

18 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Here’s what you are referring to.

https://www.theicegarden.com/2017/12/3/16699430/long-island-university-liu-post-pioneers-new-ncaa-d2-womens-ice-hockey-program-expansion

The women’s DII teams have started to play against DI teams which can make them eligible for the NCAA DI Tournament. I could see the men’s DII teams finding a way to be eligible for the men’s NCAA DI Tournament. I wouldn’t look to much into them adding a women’s team meaning they’re adding a men’s team. Then add in the whole DII schools can’t have a DI team that has come up. 

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament

Stony Brook is a club them that has been mentioned as a possible future DI team, but no real proof that they have even looked at adding DI hockey.

Stony Brook has an avowed goal to be FBS, making hockey a back burner item.  Stony Brook should have a DI hockey team, but that is probably way off in the future as preparations for FBS are expensive like an enlarged stadium.  Can't find how much LIU Post has for an endowment, although it was started by the Post cereal owner.

[The Sicatoka]

On 10/31/2017 at 1:29 AM, cberkas said:

I didn’t realize Rupp Arena has ice making ability. I don’t expect Kentucky to be in the position to add hockey, but they have a 10,011 seat arena for hockey (expandable to 21,300).  

Kentucky:

• home arena -- check
• schedule poster theme -- check 

Sorry ... got distracted ... what comes after schedule poste... 

[SiouxVolley]

Toledo will move its club team up to Acha D1.  It might be a sleeper school to start hockey, as there is an 8k arena already in town where an ECHL team plays.  Would really be a good rival for Bowling Green and Oakland.

[Rebel_Sioux]

On 12/5/2017 at 10:36 PM, cberkas said:

Here’s what you are referring to.

https://www.theicegarden.com/2017/12/3/16699430/long-island-university-liu-post-pioneers-new-ncaa-d2-womens-ice-hockey-program-expansion

The women’s DII teams have started to play against DI teams which can make them eligible for the NCAA DI Tournament. I could see the men’s DII teams finding a way to be eligible for the men’s NCAA DI Tournament. I wouldn’t look to much into them adding a women’s team meaning they’re adding a men’s team. Then add in the whole DII schools can’t have a DI team that has come up. 

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/womens-hockey/2017/11/28/16707432/the-saint-anselm-explained-number-one-pairwise-ncaa-womens-hockey-tournament

Stony Brook is a club them that has been mentioned as a possible future DI team, but no real proof that they have even looked at adding DI hockey.

I'm confused. I thought there was only DI and DIII for hockey.

[cberkas]

4 hours ago, Rebel_Sioux said:

I'm confused. I thought there was only DI and DIII for hockey.

There are a few DII men’s hockey teams that are in a DIII conference, I don’t remember which one. Right now there are 6 women’s DII schools with HC moving up to DI next year, so there is a scheduling agreement agreement with the DII and DI schools on the women’s side. 

[Yote 53]

So, let's get back to talking about schools that have serious money and can afford D1 hockey programs.  The biggest hurdle for any school adding a hockey program is an arena, that hurdle is being overcome in Iowa City.  No matter how many times the Iowa AD says that Iowa has no intention of adding hockey, I don't believe him.  Illinois is studying it.  Nebraska has long been rumored.  Iowa is a natural fit with those schools and now will have an arena for it.  Smack dab in the middle of USHL country and just to the south of MN and WI, and just west of Chicago.  Right in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds even if Iowa itself is not a hotbed of recruits.

http://daily-iowan.com/2017/10/02/coralville-moves-forward-with-new-iowa-arena-project/

[cberkas]

2 hours ago, Yote 53 said:

So, let's get back to talking about schools that have serious money and can afford D1 hockey programs.  The biggest hurdle for any school adding a hockey program is an arena, that hurdle is being overcome in Iowa City.  No matter how many times the Iowa AD says that Iowa has no intention of adding hockey, I don't believe him.  Illinois is studying it.  Nebraska has long been rumored.  Iowa is a natural fit with those schools and now will have an arena for it.  Smack dab in the middle of USHL country and just to the south of MN and WI, and just west of Chicago.  Right in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds even if Iowa itself is not a hotbed of recruits.

http://daily-iowan.com/2017/10/02/coralville-moves-forward-with-new-iowa-arena-project/

About time they started doing something with that project. 

I honestly thought they’d never do it since the city has been been asking for money for about a year or 2.  

[nodak651]

They broke ground on this last month, so it is officially being built.  Expected to be completed in only 8 months.

New article -> https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2017/10/24/lace-up-leesburg-heres-when-the-regions-largest.html

On 3/7/2017 at 11:37 AM, nodak651 said:

Apparently some people in Virginia are building this for only 20M.  Doesn't seem possible, but arenas may not be as expensive as everyone thinks?  Seems like a D1 facility to me, unfortunately its in the middle of nowhere.  4,200 seats.

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2016/11/07/plans-solidify-for-an-international-skating-center.html

 

[SiouxVolley]

An article about how Sacred Heart is doing in their rented 8500 seat Webster Bank arena.  Hasnt improved ticket sales that much, but selling 1500 seats is an improvement. Almost all the AHA teams have been upgrading or built or are planning new arenas.  Sacred Heart is not the pushover that it used to be.  There is talk that a Connecticut Beanpot tournament will form using UConn, Quinnipiac, Yale, and Sacred Heart.

http://www.ctpost.com/sports/article/Sacred-Heart-hockey-looking-to-build-12425733.php#photo14692975

[fightingsioux4life]

On 12/14/2017 at 8:29 PM, SiouxVolley said:

An article about how Sacred Heart is doing in their rented 8500 seat Webster Bank arena.  Hasnt improved ticket sales that much, but selling 1500 seats is an improvement. Almost all the AHA teams have been upgrading or built or are planning new arenas.  Sacred Heart is not the pushover that it used to be.  There is talk that a Connecticut Beanpot tournament will form using UConn, Quinnipiac, Yale, and Sacred Heart.

http://www.ctpost.com/sports/article/Sacred-Heart-hockey-looking-to-build-12425733.php#photo14692975

More competition = more valuable national championships. I say bring it on. 

[SiouxVolley]

Some hyperbole on Bentley's new arena which will open soon.

http://www.uscho.com/2017/12/20/long-time-coming-new-bentley-arena-going-to-be-as-good-as-any-facility-in-division-i/

[SiouxVolley]

Still rumors that Arizona St will get a new arena and a conference invite, presumaby the NCHC.

 

http://www.flohockey.tv/articles/6063865-hockey-in-the-desert-arizona-state-sun-devils-building-something-special