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Posted
1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

If you consider a golf simulator put in as an amenity in an apartment building, yes.

The new developments will be using TIF funds then?  If so, is there any concern that the amenities provided (such as a golf simulator) will unfairly impact local business(es)?  Sorry if I'm slow on this...

Posted
35 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

If you consider a golf simulator put in as an amenity in an apartment building, yes.

Which begs the "question,"

Megan Ashley Pierce (MAP Fitness)

Really needs to step up her city council game.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

The new developments will be using TIF funds then?  If so, is there any concern that the amenities provided (such as a golf simulator) will unfairly impact local business(es)?  Sorry if I'm slow on this...

From what I understand, they are applying for a TIF (which is a tax deferment, not actual cash).

 

7 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Which begs the "question,"

Megan Ashley Pierce (MAP Fitness)

Really needs to step up her city council game.

I've heard similar arguments as it relates to the city owned Choice Health and Fitness.

Posted
32 minutes ago, Cratter said:

The poker table buy in is $10 million minimum. 

The more you invest the bigger discount you get. 

This guy gets comped a soda:

 

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This guy gets comped a penthouse suite:

 

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I get the risk/reward portion of this; the more you put in the more you stand to gain. (or lose)  But if I'm the guy getting comped a soda, I sure don't want to see my property tax increase for additional infrastructure to support Mr Penthouse Suite's fabulous new business.  Maybe I'm just mad because I would have loved to have a 20 year tax break for my business.

Posted
1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

From what I understand, they are applying for a TIF (which is a tax deferment, not actual cash).

Thanks for the clarification.

Posted

JDub27 and Cratter, why don't you guys just come over to my house and explain all this to me.  The first couple rounds are on me.;)

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

I sure don't want to see my property tax increase for additional infrastructure to support Mr Penthouse Suite's fabulous new business. 

 

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Posted

"Cratter can you play the other side?"

Sure.

Property tax? Where's that money go? Biggest portion: public schools.

Which is a valid concern and why the schools. Said "no way jose we love money."

The only way you'll pay more is if the city decides to increase the "mill rate" (Besides naturally raising property values). Which is unlikely, because ND state and local governments seem to be lowering them.

A good trivia question would be "When is the last time Grand Forks increased the mill rate?"

People complain about property tax breaks but then vote to increase their own sales tax constantly in Grand Forks.

🫣

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Posted

I stumbled across this nugget from tax commissioners office:

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This means Fargo's taxable sales and purchases dropped over six times more than Grand Forks’ during Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Cratter said:

I stumbled across this nugget from tax commissioners office:

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This means Fargo's taxable sales and purchases dropped over six times more than Grand Forks’ during Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023.

oh boy...imperial cass is __________________________

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Posted
30 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

oh boy...imperial cass is __________________________

At this point I just want people to "stay off my lawn"!

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Posted
1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

At this point I just want people to "stay off my lawn"!

I thought that was the Nextdoor app...

Posted
15 hours ago, Cratter said:

I stumbled across this nugget from tax commissioners office:

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This means Fargo's taxable sales and purchases dropped over six times more than Grand Forks’ during Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023.

LOL  Nice cherry picking 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Bison Dan said:

For that quarter no but over the last 10 years GF isn't even in the ball park.

why just that recent quarter?  seems odd

is crime finally catching up to out of towners and they are choosing other cities instead of fargo?

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Posted
3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

why just that recent quarter?  seems odd

is crime finally catching up to out of towners and they are choosing other cities instead of fargo?

Maybe the influx of people at the air base?

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Posted
55 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Maybe the influx of people at the air base?

what number they at out there? you would think with the way the whole military world is going with drones and whatnot that GFAFB could and should be more populous that it was when b2's were the main thing out there?

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Posted
13 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if we had to choose between daily flights between Minny or Denver would gfk be better off with daily's to Denver?

i guess i would

I guess I would choose daily flights to Denver.  I've had bad experiences with the Minneapolis St. Paul airport. 

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