watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If you could own a hockey team and your choice was between UND and the Lincoln Stars, based on profitability, which team would you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Do I still get to use donated money to pay for the players' scholarships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Do I still get to use donated money to pay for the players' scholarships? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Is rthis a serious thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yes. Then I'd take UND men's hockey (without having to shell out for the other athletics programs). Watch out, ticket prices are going up under the new regime...... beer prices too. Nobody's ever said I don't know how to make an extra $1 Disclaimer: I have no idea what the Lincoln Stars finances look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Then I'd take UND men's hockey (without having to shell out for the other athletics programs). Watch out, ticket prices are going up under the new regime...... beer prices too. Nobody's ever said I don't know how to make an extra $1 Disclaimer: I have no idea what the Lincoln Stars finances look like. According to Gasparini when he was the head of the USHL the Stars took in more money than UND did before they moved to the new arena. The Stars are a little gold mine. They make $50k gate sales for their home games. All concession sales and they sell 72 kegs a game according to Gino. That adds up real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 According to Gasparini when he was the head of the USHL the Stars took in more money than UND did before they moved to the new arena. The Stars are a little gold mine. They make $50k gate sales for their home games. All concession sales and they sell 72 kegs a game according to Gino. That adds up real fast. $50,000 sounds like a lot, but in the new Ralph UND is selling 11,000+ seats at around $30 each every game ($330,000). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Im willing to bet 25he kegs at 6the and a half a cup too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hmnnn...which one would be coached by Coach Dikka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 $50,000 sounds like a lot, but in the new Ralph UND is selling 11,000+ seats at around $30 each every game ($330,000). UND makes 1.5 million and Lincoln makes around 2 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hmnnn...which one would be coached by Coach Dikka? And who would drive the team bus? Dit-ka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 UND makes 1.5 million and Lincoln makes around 2 million. Source? Also, is the $1.5M after paying for the players' scholarships? I realize the Ralph isn't the cheapest building to run, but I can't imagine it's costing UND THAT much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Source? Also, is the $1.5M after paying for the players' scholarships? I realize the Ralph isn't the cheapest building to run, but I can't imagine it's costing UND THAT much. http://college-sports.findthedata.org/q/10945/3448/How-much-profit-does-the-University-of-North-Dakota-Ice-Hockey-team-in-Grand-Forks-North-Dakota-make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Website looks shady... how the hell does women make money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yeah there must be an uneven cost allocation going on there to dump extra expenses on the men's hockey team. Also, those expense numbers would have to include player scholarships. I've gotta agree with gfhockey on this one, there's no way the women's team is making any money. I suppose nearly all the revenue being attributed to them could be coming from student fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 http://college-sport...rth-Dakota-make Looking at the UMN revenue number, I'd have to think they're allocating the FSN tv deal to their hockey team, whereas the MidcoSN tv deal that UND has is either being spread across the sports programs or just going into the AD's Office to be doled out as needed. I'm guessing that must be the case anyways because Mariucci has a lower capacity than the Ralph and I can't imagine the gophers are charging much more (if at all) for a seat than UND is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Is rthis a serious thread? Is this a serious response? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Looking at the UMN revenue number, I'd have to think they're allocating the FSN tv deal to their hockey team, whereas the MidcoSN tv deal that UND has is either being spread across the sports programs or just going into the AD's Office to be doled out as needed. I'm guessing that must be the case anyways because Mariucci has a lower capacity than the Ralph and I can't imagine the gophers are charging much more (if at all) for a seat than UND is. I've seen the report these numbers come from (but have been unable to find it the last few times I've looked for it). The cost allocation has no rhyme or reason to it, it is a numbers game used for the reporting. I believe the same report shows NDSU's football team breaks even. I am still curious on the source that says the Lincoln stars make $2MM with an average attendance of 4K or so (30 home games, 120K in total attendance). UND has twice as many fans coming through the doors averaging 11K+ (20-22 home games, total attendance of 240K+) with more expensive tickets. Revenues on the UND side are much higher. I'm sure expenses are as well, but good luck finding accurate and publicly available numbers for either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Do I get the revenue from the SiouxShop as well? That's gotta be a gold mine there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 why does beer cost $6.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 UND without question!! The best hockey facility in the land who wouldn't want to own UND. (As owner do I get to pick the cheerleaders ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If those numbers are even remotely true, why haven't the Cornhuskers put together a program yet? There's obviously a strong hockey fan base in town who are already in love with Nebraska the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I've seen the report these numbers come from (but have been unable to find it the last few times I've looked for it). The cost allocation has no rhyme or reason to it, it is a numbers game used for the reporting. I believe the same report shows NDSU's football team breaks even. I am still curious on the source that says the Lincoln stars make $2MM with an average attendance of 4K or so (30 home games, 120K in total attendance). UND has twice as many fans coming through the doors averaging 11K+ (20-22 home games, total attendance of 240K+) with more expensive tickets. Revenues on the UND side are much higher. I'm sure expenses are as well, but good luck finding accurate and publicly available numbers for either. That is what Gino said when he was the league commissioner. But using your math that is 1.5 million gate revenue. Ad space on boards, program ad space, all belongs to the Stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 That is what Gino said when he was the league commissioner. But using your math that is 1.5 million gate revenue. Ad space on boards, program ad space, all belongs to the Stars. I have nothing to disprove your Lincoln numbers but there seems to be something missing. I feel confident that your numbers for UND have a lot of noise in them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm still pizzed beer is $6.50 & why in the He!! did everyone want Coors when it wasn't sold here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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