Mama Sue Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I know that very successful DIII and DII colleges do not recruit. They take the pick of who comes to them. That is why my previous posts ahve said it will be a long haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Do you honestly believe that? I personally know a D-III and a D-II coach and both of them recruit relentlessly.Yes, even the mighty Bison recruit, but they just do it better than most in this area. Do you really think they say "come here if you want to win" and kids just show up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Do you honestly believe that? I personally know a D-III and a D-II coach and both of them recruit relentlessly.Yes, even the mighty Bison recruit, but they just do it better than most in this area. Do you really think they say "come here if you want to win" and kids just show up? This worked for John Gagliardi at St. John's in Minnesota, but I don't think it would work anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 This worked for John Gagliardi at St. John's in Minnesota, but I don't think it would work anywhere else. Oh really?! So he could call kids up and say "forget about that full ride at U of M and Nebraska, come to St. John's if you want to win". That is not even close to reality, but if that is what you want to believe, enjoy fantasy land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I was in a bar this afternoon that had on the NDSU/USD game and what is scarey is the announcers said NDSU doesn't recruit, they just pick who they want. Things may not be quite that simple for them, but if it's even close to being true, we are in for a long fight before we ever even approach their level. Hopefully it was just homer announcers, otherswise I think Mussman really dug a deep hole for us. bull$%!#. You think Bohl flies all over the place for fun? He recruits his ass off. If they chose who they wanted they would have Mollberg Stockwell Edwards and many others on their team. It's the mighty myth of the mighty byzun. They are very good right now but c'mon you're going to believe everything those homers say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Wilkie was on the sideline at the Gopher game today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Go ahead and ban me... Matt = Idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 First it was no one respected Mussman on the team. And now the players would run through a wall for him? Of course, because no one on a message board actually has a clue as to what is going on in the locker room. In spite of what they think or might tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I would disagree with this statement. Most players are constantly working to keep or gain a starting spot. In college football they don't care if you are on scholarship or not, best player will play, regardless of age. I also disagree that there will be "lots of work to rebuild". If the new staff knows what they are doing, we could be above .500 next season and playoff bound the following year. Although I do not believe that Muss and his staff did a great job recruiting, I do believe that they did well enough to be competitive. Generally I agree but I do know of some specific instances when the best player only got a chance due to another players injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnbison Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 bull$%!#. You think Bohl flies all over the place for fun? He recruits his ass off. If they chose who they wanted they would have Mollberg Stockwell Edwards and many others on their team. It's the mighty myth of the mighty byzun. They are very good right now but c'mon you're going to believe everything those homers say? Pretty sure it was Timmerman who said it and he is far from an NDSU homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Generally I agree but I do know of some specific instances when the best player only got a chance due to another players injury. Best player in who's opinion? Is the "best player" working hard in practice, meetings or the classroom. There are many variables as to why players don't get on the field as much as some think they should. Usually it is because they aren't as good as the guy that is on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Pretty sure it was Timmerman who said it and he is far from an NDSU homer. So was that a direct quote from Bohl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Best player in who's opinion? Is the "best player" working hard in practice, meetings or the classroom. There are many variables as to why players don't get on the field as much as some think they should. Usually it is because they aren't as good as the guy that is on the field. I know for a fact PJ Sparks has a great work ethic. He's a weight room junkie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Pretty sure it was Timmerman who said it and he is far from an NDSU homer. So are you saying he was right in saying they don't recruit but rather shoot fish in a barrel? If that were the case every kid they offer would commit on the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I know for a fact PJ Sparks has a great work ethic. He's a weight room junkie. I won't argue this, but there is probably reason for lack of reps. Knowing your assignments is another reason that coaches have a tough time putting someone on the field (stepping the wrong way in pass pro, running the wrong route, not picking up a blitz ect). I personally have never run across a coach at any level that would keep a better player off the field unless he had a good reason to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Go ahead and ban me... Matt = Idiot! You called? It seems as though someone has asked me to step outside... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I won't argue this, but there is probably reason for lack of reps. Knowing your assignments is another reason that coaches have a tough time putting someone on the field (stepping the wrong way in pass pro, running the wrong route, not picking up a blitz ect). I personally have never run across a coach at any level that would keep a better player off the field unless he had a good reason to do so. They loved them some Jake Miller though. As they say, true love is blind. Hopefully the new coach had no heart when it comes to personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Oh really?! So he could call kids up and say "forget about that full ride at U of M and Nebraska, come to St. John's if you want to win". That is not even close to reality, but if that is what you want to believe, enjoy fantasy land. That is not what I meant and you know it. And if I have to explain it to you, it's not worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You stated that was the case for St. John's, so how else is one to take it? There is not 1 university in the country that doesn't have to work their butt off to bring in athletes. Making any argument to the contrary is purely blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You stated that was the case for St. John's, so how else is one to take it? There is not 1 university in the country that doesn't have to work their butt off to bring in athletes. Making any argument to the contrary is purely blind. You were the one comparing a Division III school to FBS programs. I did no such thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You were the one comparing a Division III school to FBS programs. I did no such thing. nice subject change. That isn't what I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSuhaki Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Blah Blah Blah NDSU doesn't recruit. That's BS. Even Alabama recruits. So let's squash that. As far as our recruiting goes, we need a new staff asap. Official visits are starting soon and many schools are already scheduling them for their top recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 So.... Top recruiting needs this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Blah Blah Blah NDSU doesn't recruit. That's BS. Even Alabama recruits. So let's squash that. As far as our recruiting goes, we need a new staff asap. Official visits are starting soon and many schools are already scheduling them for their top recruits. We'll if Faison is raiding SIU coaches the GF media should find out and see if they have applied. Season is over for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 So.... Top recruiting needs this year? HOGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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