obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I've bee a vocal critic of Roughriders, but it seems pretty obvious, even to me, that it's the best option remaining. And I generally agree that a new nickname is better than no nickname, but honestly, when compared to this list, no nickname is not a bad option. For me: 1) Roughriders - I don't like that we're copying the local high school team, but it's an official nickname of the state and is pretty unique 2) Cavalry - I like it in theory, but the confusion with Calvary can't be ignored. About half the people on this board spell it wrong, and probably say it wrong too. On the other hand, a lot of people spelled Sioux wrong too (but at leas it was easy to pronounce). 3) North Dakota The remaining options are all unacceptable in my opinion. What truly frightens me is that with all the really bad nicknames in the Final 15, at least one of them is sure to make the Final 3. And when that happens, look for outside interests to wreak havoc with the public voting process. We've been over this.... Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 We've been over this.... Yup. We have: "Roughrider State" is listed on the ND.gov (official state website) page of state nicknames. Quote
Fetch Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 FIGHTING SIOUX FOREVER SO JUST STAY NORTH DAKOTA I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT ASHAMED TO BE HONEST 3 Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Yup. We have: "Roughrider State" is listed on the ND.gov (official state website) page of state nicknames. So you're saying that being mentioned on an official website makes it the official nickname? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 So you're saying that being mentioned on an official website makes it the official nickname? I see a webpage on the ND.gov domain titled "Nicknames" (linked to from the State Facts page). Not sure what more can be said other than it's coming from the ND.gov domain and linked to from state facts. I see four listed: Peace Garden State Flickertail State Roughrider State Dakota Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I see a webpage on the ND.gov domain titled "Nicknames" (linked to from the State Facts page). Not sure what more can be said other than it's coming from the ND.gov domain and linked to from state facts. I see four listed: Peace Garden State Flickertail State Roughrider State Dakota You see four listed but you know that doesn't give us four official state nicknames. Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 "This is Roughrider Country." Nice ring to it. 1 Quote
zonadub Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 If we choose Thunderhawks, can we use this image as inspiration? Thunder Hawk was a member of the Hunkpapa Indians and a companion of Sitting Bull. Now that's funny. Would stick a finger in the eye of the NCAA better than staying North Dakota would! Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 So you're saying that being mentioned on an official website makes it the official nickname?Does it have less meaning if its unofficial state nickname to you. Or if a new more legislators at the time voted "yes." It is indeed one of North Dakotas nicknames. Plain & Simple. Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Does it have less meaning if its unofficial state nickname to you. Or if a new more legislators at the time voted "yes." No, it has very little meaning to begin with. Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 No, it has very little meaning to begin with. Write the governor and have it removed. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 "This is Roughrider Country." Nice ring to it. 1 Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Write the governor and have it removed. How can we remove something that doesn't exist? Quote
Teeder11 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Never said they were going away, but in no way will Sun Dogs be a marketable name or logo. I'm sure the Bison and Gopher fans will have a blast with it though. They had a blast defaming our former Fighting Sioux nickname and somehow we were able to sleep at night. The big difference was we were proud of that nickname so it did not matter as much. We fear the unknown and the possibility that we might have to defend something that hasn't been fully bought into yet. Believe me, if any fan base can buy into a nickname like Gophers or Banana Slugs, any name eventually would be accepted given enough time. 1 Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 We like to think of Roughriders as Teddy. But the main definition of Roughriders is: a person who breaks in or can ride unbroken horses. Pretty fitting in North Dakota. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 So you're saying that being mentioned on an official website makes it the official nickname? You see four listed but you know that doesn't give us four official state nicknames. No, it has very little meaning to begin with. How can we remove something that doesn't exist? 2 Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 How can we remove something that doesn't exist?Have it removed from the official state website that says it one of the states nicknames. That would be a start for you. Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Welcome to North Dakota, where we are this hard-up for heroes. 2 Quote
UND-1 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Welcome to North Dakota, where we are this hard-up for heroes. We get it. You are smarter and deeper than everyone. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 We get it. You are smarter and deeper than everyone. No, just a child throwing a tantrum. Quote
obborg Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Hey, this conversation started simply with me correcting a minor factual error. Direct your post to those who objected to my doing that. Quote
Fetch Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Welcome to North Dakota, where we are this hard-up for heroes. This ^^^ Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 We had Sitting Bull, or at least the name of his followers (born near Mobridge, SD, but lived in ND and commanded a war unit). So now it's Teddy Roosevelt, or at least the name of his followers, (born in Manhattan, NY, but lived in ND and commanded a war unit). < shrug > Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Hey, this conversation started simply with me correcting a minor factual error. Direct your post to those who objected to my doing that. It's a nickname adopted by the state. Thus.... official. Quote
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 We like to think of Roughriders as Teddy. But the main definition of Roughriders is: a person who breaks in or can ride unbroken horses. Pretty fitting in North Dakota. I'm thinking something like the old NFL Broncos logo with a cowboy holding on. Be pretty badass. Quote
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