JohnboyND7

I want more details before I rush to judgement. But...it certainly looks bad. Always sad to hear about a kid around my age passing away. I've seen how scared my mom has gotten when I have had surgeries. Can't imagine how depressing this would be for a mother.

who knows...UND only put up 17 against Poly and EWU. I presume those are the two best defenses they have went up against. Only one offense has scored more than one offensive TD against NDSU. UNI had three, one in garbage time. UND also has put up some big numbers as well. The only teams that have had any success against NDSU the past couple seasons have done it with balanced offenses. Could be an interesting matchup I suppose.

Something tells me if UND was still the "Fighting Sioux" and were tearing it up in FCS you'd be singing a different tune.

Well why don't you admit that this time change was for the better and be done with it?

Of course Notre Dame, USC, etc. are going to be a big deal in comparison to NDSU and UND. Money, fans, history, and other factors lead to that. You are telling me that you'd rather watch UND play against St. Cloud in front of a few thousand than against Montana in front of 25,000? Normally I'd say you are entitled to your own opinion but at this point your opinion is just wrong and there is no other way around it.

NDSU, UND, Montana, and Northern Iowa have a significantly larger amount of recognition and athletic budgets in comparison to Pitt State. NDSU has SDSU, USD, and UNI all within a 2.5-8 hour drive. UND has to do some flying, but Montana and Montana State still make for some fun competition in comparison to the old NCC. Important to know when you have outgrown something, or in the case of the Dakota Schools, when something shrinks to the point it is too small for you. When teams like Moorhead State, U of Mary, and Minot State are D-II, it is very important to make sure that NDSU and UND are NOT D-II. Just so happens NDSU got a head start on that.

If you are a high school defensive standout do you want to go somewhere you can play right away or be apart of an exceptional defense?

I think it depends on which UND and which Montana shows up. Really, outside of a blowout(more than 20 points) by one of the teams, I won't be the slightest bit surprised.

Depends on the year I suppose.

Oh dear...

We'll see next year then, thebigund. Will be interesting to see if any/many montana fans show up.

37, 31, 13, 35, 55, and 41 points surrendered in D-I games. From a defense geaux_sioux said would be better than NDSU's. I dont find it to easy to accept his analysis of talent after what has occurred this season.

At this point, to see any UND defensive players in the NFL would be surprising. I can't imagine there being a huge walkup crowd after three straight losses. But ya never know.

Cycling happens as well, but generally dominant programs will continue to do well. Oklahoma, Alabama, etc. tend to be good at their level similar to NDSU has been doing since the 60's. If you lowered the scholarship limits, they would be pulled back to the pack. Lowering scholarship limits will ALWAYS be bad for the teams that are dominating the sport as they gain nothing by it. They only lose. Some of them may manage to continue to be great, but lowering the scholarship limits sure as heck are doing nothing to help them. If they lowered hockey scholarships 25-50%, would you see a big change in hockey? Yep. Teams like Bemidji and Mankato would start to get a lot of players UND and Minnesota were getting because they are getting money to go play at the smaller school.

NDSU fans have enjoyed experiences that we had in D-II. 10,000 people rocking in Texas. National Championship. You are stuck in the past. Times change. Just like people growing up, so do universities.

harder to take over their stadium now. It is smaller than the Metrodome so less seating available per game.

The deck isn't stacked in NDSU's favor. Nor was it when NDSU was dominating. Other schools were playing the scholarship limit too and 'SU was still pounding on them. Once again, I point to the cycle of programs.

Got a new coach. Was able to fund football properly again. Also, programs are cyclical. USC and Notre Dame aren't always good, they just tend to be. NDSU is similar(on a smaller scale of course). Yeah, too bad that the bigger schools in the NCC decided to make an investment and see a higher-quality product on the field.

Elon is playing in the SoCon, lots of teams down there who are ranked.

NDSU got the wakeup call we needed. Everyone else (except MVFC teams) sucks...UND stinks cause yeah. Good enough yeah?

Seems to me you are not thinking enough buddy. Didn't NDSU and SDSU also apprently mention to USD and UND that they wouldn't mind some company in moving up? NDSU's king sport, football, was being held back by the lack of scholarships. If they cut scholarships from hockey to make it more competitive for the smaller schools, and there was a higher league for UND to join to play with the type of budget that UND was appropriate, do you think that they wouldn't have at least considered it?

Nobody likes DaveK

What would Muss's buyout be?

MVFC looking pretty interesting this year. At one point, every game that was being played was tied according to the screen in the dome. EWU could be number one after today. Beating #2 should jump them over JMU in my opinion. Lots of high ranked teams bit the dust today. Holy smokes. Checked out the UND game box score, awfully close score for how lopsided the yardage was. Anyone care to explain it in a nutshell for me? I'm not trolling, genuinely curious right now.