JohnboyND7

I'd consider picking Lafayette against UND. Middle of the pack is currently being pretty nice to UND. Losing to Idaho over the last two seasons by a combined 70-something points is not what middle of the pack teams do. Hell, NDSU's 3-8 year I think it was they played kept it relatively respectable against Iowa St. UND should probably be middle of the road in a year or so, but right now they aren't. 16 points against Drake is not good enough.

St. Francis was scheduled last season after the current #1 (hint, starts with Georgia, ends with Southern) backed out of a home-and-home. Would have been the biggest OOC game at home NDSU or UND have had since the jump up to D1.

Probably wouldn't be in this situation had UND had the balls to play NDSU when we were in the process of moving up.

So would you guys say the same thing if the trophy was sitting in Fargo? Miami (OH) was the Redskins until 1997. They still competed against Cincinati for the victory bell. If UND wanted to keep it that is fine. Just seems like if the schools are playing that the trophy should play its own small part in the game. Not like the players need it, but it gives them that little extra motivation to get the job done. Also, it makes it fun for the fans to poke a little fun at the other side, granted, the trophy's time might be over. Its meaning has went down obviously considering its been awhile since the two teams played.

Thats not my solution, far from it. I said if you guys are going to keep complaining and say how the NCAA is the worst thing since Adolf Hitler, you are free to leave. No one is making you be in the NCAA. Do I think that UND should drop hockey? No, it is your best sport. It makes the University a lot of money. But at some point, you have to quit complaining and deal with what has happened. I have never witnessed a group of adults acting like children who aren't getting their way before. It sucks for you guys that you are losing the name. If I sign a loan agreement, on the promise that I will pay it back, and I dont pay it back, is it unreasonable for the bank to take my house? Yep, I might be pissed about it, but in the end, it is entirely my fault. Enough with the Bison hate, I'm speaking on behalf of every school who thinks its time to grow up and change the name, not because Fighting Sioux is "hostile and abusive", because it isn't. Change the name because the agreement was made which left UND in a situation where they at least were given an opportunity to try and keep the name, and they couldn't meet the terms and conditions of said agreement.

They elected the officials that threw it aside. This is entirely on the citizens who elected said officials. If it was that important to them, they would have elected officials based on their views of the nickname. From what I have heard, no proof that this in fact happened, a similar petition was signed by several Natives on the Rez to block a vote on the Sioux name. If that is indeed a fact(unknown, too lazy to look for where I heard it), then what do you do? Take off the kelly green glasses, and tell me if two groups sign petitions opposing one another, and the elected officials are against it, they should carry out the vote anyways.

I'd think, and I could be wrong, but people all know App St. for what they did to Michigan and to a lesser extent what they did for 3 years in the FCS. They might not know where it is, but they know what they did. They get plastered all over the TV every year during college football season. UND gets on espn when the Frozen Four tournement is on and people might recognize the name, but they don't get that same attention.

UND could also consider the NDSU approach, not saying it would for sure work or not. But NDSU took it to Montana St. and nearly beat EWU with NCC style of play. Rough, tough, physical football. It is something to consider anyway. Big Sky is really wide open though, you are spot on with that assessment.

From what the UND fans have been saying bro, is if one thing is certain, it is that Muss will get out-coached. Honestly though, he could coach a perfect game and I can't imagine it helping, Fresno will probably be looking to lash out on someone this week after that 4th quarter in Lincoln, can't imagine this being very pretty. And yes guys, 1%! He is saying there's a chance!

Wondering when you personally last saw the Nickel? If it was recently, mind telling me where it is? No, Im not going to take it, honestly, having that trophy is the only thing that UND's football team has had going for them the past 7-8 years pretty much. On a more serious note, if the teams meet up in the playoffs, which mathematically should happen at some point, do you guys think they'd pull out the Nickel for old times sake?

Lived in the dorms back in '98. Reed hall. Pretty weird that a UND fan is feeling confident enough to try and call out a Bison fan on where he lived back when he was in the dorms? Close though. Off by 12 years and about 100 yards. I know the kid who you are referring to however, 344 is an interesting individual to say the least. I keep up on Bisonville and Siouxsports. Apparently, you also follow both sites as well. You did a great job describing 344Johnson, who according to BV has a whopping 744 posts. I would assume you have went on their Preposterous Statements thread. He has taken a liking to that one and yes, he pulls a Gold Mine of funny stuff some of the more.....ambitious UND fans have decided to put on a couple of SS.com threads, one in particular that I follow is the Facilities Masterplan thread. You went from sounding pretty knowledgable to looking just as goofy/childish as 344 does all through my interpretation of the data you were oh so kind enough to present to us. Idk what barrage you are referring to? I think I made a joke about it the other day and probably one other time. I would not call it a barrage by any means and you have chosen to bring it up multiple days after Dave let it be known that he is indeed working in printing rather than the Pizza Industry (I'd assume Pizza Patrol or Domino's). I would also advise against eating Cheeto's and playing Xbox at the same time. Orange cheesy powder will make your controller look disgusting. The younger folks nowadays call it "live," not on-line, this isn't the 90's. It should also be noted that Xbox is generally speaking used by Americans and Europeans. The likelihood of playing with a Venezuelan and a Pakistani (especially considering the times a Pakistani would be playing) is extremely unlikely. Generally speaking again here, but rarely will you find only 3 people playing Halo against one another. They'd probably stop Xbox live support of the game long before it lost that kind of popularity. Feel free to go take a seat son. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NDSU and UND should play a little ball. Even every few years, it'd give me a reason to stop in and take a look at the Alerus and see it for the first time since '03. Or do you think UND will have the retractable roof stadium completed by then?

Typically when a group of people elects representatives, they choose someone who agrees with them on issues they deem important. For some folks, the issues are social programs and welfare systems. For others it is low taxes or good schools. If the "Fighting Sioux issue" was important to the people, they would have elected individuals who believed UND keeping the nickname was important. By electing individuals who were either against the nickname, or had decided that it simply was not important to them, the people of the Standing Rock rez essentially, whether informed voters or not, that they did not want the University of North Dakota to keep the name Fighting Sioux. You can say all you want about people signing some petition begging the counsel to allow a vote, the citizens of voting age had their chance to "save the name" and decided other issues were more important. Game. Set. Match. NCAA. If you don't like it, that's understandable. If you guys are going to keep complaining about how the NCAA works, just remember, no one is forcing you to be a part of the NCAA. The NAIA might have a different policy on Native American logos. And if you are "above" the NAIA, feel free to move a semi-pro hockey team into Grand Forks and call them the Fighting Sioux. This would allow UND to drop the hockey team and with it, all the fans that weren't fans of the school, they were fans of a team of college guys called the Fighting Sioux. This would also allow the Spirit Lake people to be so "proud" of the nickname and quit throwing a fit.

Beer to wash down the leftover pizza has his memory a little bit cloudy. Cut him some slack.

As a Notre Dame fan, I felt like !@#$ Nice Uni's to wear from time to time. Beat Michigan next year.

This is probably the last time I will feel confident going into a Minnesota/NDSU game. Glen Mason was not a bad coach if Minnesota fans were fine with 6-5 and 7-4 type seasons. Brewster ruinned everything. Kill should be able to at least fix some of the issues there. UND will probably just have a rough time. You guys got a pretty young team in general dont you? Regardless, no UND squad they've had during the transition would stand up to what appears to be a pretty solid Fresno team.

I think a lot more people know about Appalachian St. than know about UND.

UND is awful too. Fresno might be a decent team but who really knows, Nebraska has some issues at times for how good they are (close game with SDSU). I don't have a lot of faith in UND's team right now after the way they played Idaho.

Does UND have $3-$5 Million to throw around for every year?

College hockey is non-consequential, it is just like FCS football. People who went to school somewhere, will generally follow the team. But unlike college basketball or FBS, Hockey and FCS don't have truely national fanbases. Am I going Boston University, Miami, UND, (insert hockey school name here) hats, and shirts throughout the entire country like I will see Notre Dame, Texas, USC, Miami (FL)? Hell no. Am I going to see Appalachian St., Eastern Washington, Montana, Delaware shirts everywhere? Nope. Hence, hockey is no more relevant than FCS. I hope that hockey attracts a higher total attendence, hockey has around 30-40 games a year? Football teams play 11-15 pending playoffs.

You do not understand the point that I am trying to make. You are counting a sport that only 13 or 15 out of well over a hundred FCS teams has. Does that not give the hockey schools an advantage? And don't say anything about NDSU's basketball attendence being horrible. You need not look past the many skyways of UND to see less-than-stellar attendence. On a nicer note, what was UND's hockey attendence last season?

Thread drift would explain why something that is not overly important or relevant would become relevant and extremely important.

That is really sad that they can't meet the 15,000 ticket limit. You'd think it wouldn't be overly difficult even with Boise in the area,

Fresno 54 UND 10 UND is just not very good at this moment in time.

Well Dave, I'm not following your logic at all. '09 Texas Tech really wasn't very special. They won against Nebraska. Other than that, looks like they beat no one to brag about other than an Oklahoma team missing Sam Bradford. Texas Tech would probably be the better team, but to say that it'd be a massacre makes no sense. Graham Harrell was gone bud, Michael Crabtree was too.

Hmm...so is that only one game when the Gophers were not able to get at least ten points? Thats all great and what not, but I notice you say they were 11-2 the year before (a hugely embarassing loss to Oklahoma, lost by 40-50 points). They just graduated one of the better spread qb's in the nation and Michael Crabtree left. So a team that even with those two players, was around a top 15 team, lost their best players, and opened up and beat you by 25 points. And you are pleased? Sad, 2006 Minnesota vs. 2009 Texas Tech, I'm going to say that it would probably be a good game.