fightingsioux4life

That would be pathetic. If they are soooooo insecure about having a campus in Huntsville and Birmingham, just shut down the schools there altogether so they can get their annual appropriations sent to Tuscaloosa instead. As much as UND and NDSU bicker about stuff, we don't do crap like this to each other.

UND and NDSU are rivals (and always will be) and this is par for the course when it comes to rivalries. Seriously.

"Bubba Gump"? Cute, very cute. Did you come up with that all by yourself, son? You guys are playing in the FCS Semifinals at home on ESPN2 tonight.....and yet you still find it necessary to take cheap shots at a program you claim not to care about anymore. Talk about insecurity! What's next, making fun of the hat Bubba wears in practice? Oh yeah, that's right, you guys already came up with that one. Go back to Bisonville and post in one of the 1,000+ "UND Sucks" threads on there. We don't need your asinine nonsense here.

Stop getting all your material from LakesBison!

Yeah, I didn't think people put baskets into baskets.....but I guess the academic standards at FU are just a little bit lower than in Grand Forks.

Which is why Bubba is putting in running offense and attacking defense systems. Which will make us different from the other BSC teams. Nice try troll, please play again.

What word would I use to describe this arrogant and asinine post? I think I would call it....... OVERCONFIDENCE!!! The ultimate enemy of all success. We return you to regularly scheduled bickering.

I seem to remember hearing that back in the 1980's and when Bob Babich was hired in 1997. How'd that turn out for you guys? UND is not going away, as much as you wish it would.

You can call shennanigans on 95% of what he says on here.

This is what I tell people who insist that ESPN Game Day visiting Fargo is somehow good for the entire state. It is good for Imperial Cass County, NDSU and nobody else! And yes, we all need to be patient as Bubba continues rebuilding the program the right way.

*rim shot* That was good!

Towards the end of the Glas regime, people would come to watch the women's team play (this was during their D-II power years) and then leave as the men's teams started warming up. When both were good, I think people came for both except maybe on Friday nights when some people weren't off work soon enough to get to the women's game (which usually started at 6pm).

Oh cripes, that is the last thing we need right now.

You really think winning the BSC MBB auto bid is similar to winning the B1G Football Championship game?

Apples and Oranges my friend.

Then what about the back to back debacles vs. Minnesota and NDSU? And what about the horrible road record? Those are things that cannot be just ignored and swept under the rug.

But they were also smart enough to realize their mistake and did what had to be done. Some people on here did not want to do what had to be done with regard to Mussman and the FB program about one year ago; all they gave us was the standard "Muss isn't out there playing, so it's not his fault" line.

Don't forget Glen Mason at Minnesota. He loaded up on a soft non-conference schedule, which allowed him to get to 6 wins and be bowl eligible even while getting destroyed by the B1G elite. But he forgot one little detail; you must win the crappy bowl game you get or else. That is what doomed him in the end. Now they are building a better program with Jerry Kill.

Going to have to disagree on the bolded statement above. The BSC is not a good MBB conference.

No because I think reaching the BSC title game last year was a fluke for the MBB team, a fluke that I do not think will be repeated in the coming years under Jones.

I think UND reaching the BSC championship game is analogus to the FB team winning a share of the Great West title in 2011 with that comeback win over USD at home. In other words, not necessarily a sign of progress and better things to come.

I do not expect national titles in basketball at the D-I level. I do expect us to be annual contenders for the MBB Big Sky autobid and to make occasional trips to the NCAA tournament in March like the WBB team did last season; which brings all sorts of positive media attention to our school and team. I do expect us to compete for Big Sky tournament titles in VB as well. I do expect us to compete for conference and national titles in FCS football and I do think Bubba is the man to take us there. I hope that clears up my positions on those sports.

Hey, don't get me wrong, there are some good things going on at UND. FB is in good hands with Bubba. MH continues to be a top 5 NCAA program. WBB is doing very well with Brewster in charge. I am simply concerned that we are stuck in neutral at best while our "friends" 75 miles to the south are rolling along and getting all sorts of positive media attention in the process. And don't be fooled, it does matter how we are perceived vs. how NDSU is perceived. It matters in recruiting local and regional athletes, it matters in terms of fan support (not the die-hards on this forum, but the average sports fan), it matters in terms of alumni donations and so on. Sometimes I get the feeling that Faison and Kelley are not as dedicated to making athletics the best they can be vs. NDSU's administration. Whiskey Joe Chapman might have been a weasel and crooked, but he did understand how athletics can lift an entire university (NDSU) and community (Fargo). I am not sure Kupchella and now Kelley have the same perspective. I do apologize if I have offended anyone (that is not my purpose here), but I am passionate about this place and I want us to be the best we can be. And right now, I don't know if we are moving in the right direction or not. I guess what I mean by "being shouted down" is the reaction I and others get on this forum when we point out some obvious shortcomings in one or more of our athletic programs. Some people get really close to questioning our loyalty (which I have ZERO tolerance for), some people say we want a "gold-plated" verison of D-I athletics (an absurd assumption in my book) and some people are simply satisfied with being Division I without any expectations for success attached (which I think makes all the time and money spent on the transition a waste). People can disagree with what I post and what I think all they want, but that doesn't mean I won't defend my positions. And as I have said before, I will gladly come on here and admit I am wrong if my assumptions and perceptions are proven wrong. Hope that clears some things up.

Really? It seems to me that it is people on your side that want to silence the critics with all your "everything is fine the way it is" rhetoric. I get shouted down whenever I point out obvious truths about problems that exist in our athletic department instead of valid rebuttal points that offer a different point of view. That is the real "backhand slap" to our alma mater and to those of us that don't want the MBB program to atrophy to the point of the FB program where it needs a total rebuild from the bottom up. And don't think we can't come up with buyout dollars for Jones like we did for Mussman. There are probably more than a few basketball alums who are not happy with the current state of the MBB program.

I seem to recall Letterman making lots of hay over the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal back in the late 1990's. He is in the entertainment business, not politics. And he is retiring soon, so you will have your wish. I do think his NBC show was (and still is) better than his CBS show. He had more freedom to go nuts in the 11:30-12:30 CT slot vs. the 10:30-11:30 CT slot.