The two major differences between UND and NDSU are the number of sports we each sponsor and we each have one program that the other doesn't (we have hockey, they have wrestling). Otherwise, we are very similar (same state, similar enrollment, both in one-bid conferences, same climatological challenges, same geographical challenges, etc.). But if you want to continue to insist that UND is an apple and NDSU is an orange, by all means go ahead. Or keep making analogies that have nothing to do with my basic point, because that is one of your strengths on this forum, isn't it?