fightingsioux4life

That is how I feel about it. I am actually more flexible on choice of a new name than most people on here, but there are limits. Sun Dogs is a no-no. Flames is a no-no. Spirit is a no-no. And Green and White is a no-no. This is a decision that will live on long after all of us have left this world. I want it to be done right the first time.

I just don't see it happening. There are too many important groups (alumni, former athletes, current athletes) that will be up in arms if they don't at least pick something with some substance. Otherwise, Kelley will find himself retired sooner than he wanted.

This isn't about attendance at hockey, football or anything else. This is about having an identity and a marketable name and logo. The milktoast GW crap they are trying to sell now isn't going to catch on ever.

No, No, No, No!!! I don't care what other schools do. I care what MY school does. And "Green and White" is not an option.....EVER! PERIOD! I told people back in 2012 when Wayne Nelson and company started using "Green and White" as a substitute for "Fighting Sioux" that this would happen. It has gotten stuck in some people's heads because of the Heraldo and other media outlets. Having said all that, this won't happen. UND isn't going to have this long, drawn out process and then pick something so bland, generic and non-descriptive as "Green and White". They could do that without a "process" and they clearly have decided not to take that course.

Wow, I think that's a first!

Hey, not all of us are "hockey-only" fans. In fact, the "hockey-only" contingent is one of the biggest problems at UND right now, amongst others.

What women's sports are there that we could add that we don't have right now? Maybe someone can chime in on that?

Two words: Title Nine And most collegiate athletic programs are money losers, not just women's hockey. If making money is a requirement, you wouldn't have more than two or three sponsored sports in NCAA athletics.

But UND can't afford it. Okay, whatever. And to answer the question before it is asked by the usual critics, yes, I would contribute something to a fundraising campaign to pay for the board(s). But I don't know of any such campaign as of today.

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That is a distinct possibility.

This country's problems are the result of big business and corporations wanting more and more and more of everything; and at the same time refusing to help pay for anything. So the burden falls on the rest of us who can't hide our income in off-shore tax shelters and slip thru tax loopholes. It's easy to blame immigrants (who have little or no power or influence) instead of targeting the real culprits (who unfortunately have lots of power and influence and know how to use it). But hey, scapegoating is an old American tradition, isn't it?

It used to be a lot easier to get a job as an immigrant (I am talking 19th into the early 20th century). And I don't know if I would call assistance by a private, non-profit charity a "handout". If you want to see a real example of "handouts", just look at a corporate balance sheet; lots of tax breaks and other goodies on there.

America has always been a place that accepts people fleeing war, persecution, genocide, etc. If we don't want to hold to that, we should change the inscription on the Statue of Liberty to say "We got ours, go back where you came from".

Well, then I guess we better go into the burrows of New York City where many different languages are spoken every day and start cracking some heads. And make sure they are practicing some sect of Christianity, because you are surely not an American if you don't. Yep, that would solve all our problems.

Sometimes it's obvious in the tone and content of their remarks. And sometimes it is not so obvious. But I do think the good posters outnumber the bad posters by a solid margin.

Don't feed the trolls; that is why they post stuff like this.

After one terrible game? No way. Getting to the top of the league will take more time, with Minnesota and Wisconsin being who they are. I think 3rd place in the WCHA this year would be appropriate.

Agreed. gfhockey adds a different dimension to the forum. And the more variety of people on here, the better.

I watched Team USA beat Team Canada in Fargo in 2009 in the semifinal game. Had to drive through floodwater on I-29 in the process.

I said it seems to be standard operating procedure to me; I never said I was 100% right. And I gave you a specific example. Same thing with the student hockey tickets; Kupchella reportedly mentioned to a season-ticket holder in an e-mail that the last resort to bad student behavior would be to abolish the student section (I really wish I had saved the source or wrote down where I saw it). Sometimes these things end up being true, sometimes not. I simply believe in keeping one's ears and eyes open for nuggets of information that don't show up in the official press releases.

The first message I wrote is how they achieve the goal I described in the second message. They set up a logical explanation to give to the public in advance so that when the decision is made, there isn't as much backlash. It's PR 101 and all large organizations (public and private) practice it all the time. That is why I am so adamant about not always accepting every "official" statement at face value. Often times, there is more than meets the eye.

Wouldn't be torn down.

I heard some talk back during the (mercifully short) Buning regime that Hyslop may have outlived it's usefulness because The Betty had taken over housing several programs (VB, MBB, WBB), along with some talk about all the asbestos that would need to be removed if they renovated it. That is code for "tear it down". And that would be a big mistake; it's a perfectly good building.

Be careful, you'll be accused of not being grateful for Ralph's gift and not just accepting at face value everything you are told. Seriously though, I have asked the same question myself.