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I give up on this thread. The 'hockey at all costs' people like it the way it is because it benefits their favorite program and don't care how it impacts the other programs on campus.

It surely wouldn't have 48% going to the REA for them to use as they see fit and give back whatever is leftover after they have taken their cut. Can you find a reason to justify the fb ticket revenue going to the REA? The REA already has a line item where they charge the university for their ticket office expenses. UND tried to renegotiate this as per their contract calls for that on a yearly basis and Chris shorted out.

Resorting to name calling kinda means you got nothing else but I can join in too. You have no idea what my paygrade is little cowpoke. I am not on the payroll of the REA if that's what you mean but I do have a different job at a pretty good paygrade. In my view it points to an org with an obscene amount of money to burn vs. what is needed at this time. The $2m from the hold backs from athletic dept could be used more constructively - if you care about anything UND other than the hockey team and but you have proven in the past that you don't. If you asked UND or the athletic department where they want their money spent I doubt they would want the $2m hold back being spent on a scoreboard that is already one of the top in college hockey.

It is possible to be grateful for the gift that the Engelstads gave and also feel like the fb team is getting shorted by giving $375k to the REA to do as they please with. That money could make a big difference for the fb program. We just posted a job for an assistant fb coach at $40k/year and you don't realize that the program on a shoestring budget? All of the costs you mention above that we avoided are all hockey related. Many on here care about our other programs too. You talk about $9.6m in costs avoided like it is a big number - and it is. You also dismiss $6m for a new scoreboard as trivial. I for one see a $6m scoreboard as an extravagance that isn't needed at this time and figure the $2m used for it from REA would have been better off going back to the athletic department for other uses. How about all the rich Big A HG guys step up to the plate and donate their share to carry the weight of UND athletics? You had nothing to do with the Engelstad donations but seem to count that as your part of supporting UND. Why not step up yourself and why single out fb alums? I give my share every year and it isn't earmarked for fb but goes for all sports.

All of my comments are regarding the $2m from the REA funds for the scoreboard. Those are not private funds and not locker room related. $345k/year would go a long ways toward that. We just want to get what the fb team earns and not leave it up to REA and Chris to decide how much of the fb $$ to give back to the fb program after taking what they want for an REA scoreboard.

Let's give the REA all of the football ticket revenue then. Why not?- if it's such a good thing for the fb team we could more than double that impact. There's also a football alumni golf event fundraiser in the Twin Cities every summer. We should funnel all revenue from that to the REA too.

And if the athletic department had an extra $345k per year from the fb ticket revenue they would be able to give more to the fb and other programs.

with some assumptions: 8,000 seats sold x $15/ticket x 6 games x 48% = $345k - real money at that rate it only takes 6 years and you come up with $2m with all of the $$ the hockey program takes in and spends - why do they need to take fb revenue? That amount of money would make a big difference for that program. Small dent for hockey. Hell - they spend more than that on new locker rooms and scoreboards quite regularly.

No. It's not other people's money. That's the point. It's because of things like REA taking 48% of football ticket revenue (I believe that the right number) on top of charging for running the ticket office. They then spend $2m on a scoreboard for the hockey arena from a fund that includes the football ticket revenue.

New scoreboard apparently counts the same as fixing a leaky roof.

how so? They are to give the REA profits back to UND athletic department but they decide what constitutes expenses. The $2m for the scoreboard is one of those expenses they have subtracted as an expense over the years. It truly is money that would have gone to the athletic department otherwise.

Agreed. My point is that it isn't truly all private donations. REA returns funds in excess of their operating expenses to the athletic department (my understanding). In effect 1/3 of the money being spent ($2m) would have gone to the athletic department but REA kept it for a reserve fund for things like this. They have a incredible latitude in deciding what constitutes their expenses in running the arena.

The other $2 million will come out of The Ralph’s longterm repair and replacement reserve fund. I believe this is money that would have been turned over to the athletic department for their budget except that REA chooses to keep it for a reserve fund. One could argue that it is coming from the athletic department's budget as REA returned less money to the athletic department to pay for this.

Didn't find him on their 2018 roster. Wonder if he played last year.

Poolman was a man setting up our 3rd goal.

I will answer the question. It is not the job of local media to provide a competitive advantage to the opponent. It is also not the job to protect the team you cover by holding something back that might help an opponent. I know Kolpack a little bit and Fargo sportswriters are expected to hold back information at times to protect SU football. I believe it is their job to report what they know in a timely manner unless it was told to them off the record. I didn't watch any of the game but doubt it would have had an impact if it had revealed. I just think it is a sad commentary on Fargo reporters in general.

I realize the shenanigans regarding extra scholarships are only supposed but a friend did tell me how they did it. The SU coaches from that time were together and reminiscing about the good old days and how it worked. They forgot he wasn't part of their coaching staff when they were at SU. They spilled the beans before they realized it. This was during the time where you could get away with a lot because the NCAA acted as the cop and you only had to worry if they audited and caught you. Now the schools have compliance officers on staff and schools have the responsibility to monitor themselves.

Back in the day Eddie Schultz told me about some shenanigans SU was pulling with their scholarship totals. I asked him why he didn't report it since he was a Fargo sportscaster. He said he wouldn't be allowed near the team again if he did.

Wonder what's holding it up?

That's not fair. You don't know what's going on in the locker room He is probably trying to figure out what his team needs to hear right now to play better moving forward. I'm guessing they've already been down the 'we suck' road. you've been on enough teams to realize you can only go to that well so many times. Maybe he figures it's time to try another approach and work to convince his team that they can get over the hump.

I watched through the youtube link. bounced between pretty good and blurry good most of the time.

any hope you can set this up again tonight? Even with it being painful to watch last night - I appreciated it.

Pt #1 - conjecture or do you know it was dictated to Bubba? I don't know for sure but knowing Bubba a little I think he made the decision on his own. He gave Rudolf an extra year to right things but I believe that was a mistake.

I'm not sure he was forced to do anything. He made a choice. There's no wonder we aren't hiring high end experienced coaches for these positions with a $40k salary. Need to up our salary pool if we want to attract more experienced coaches. That is on the administration - not Bubba.

Tom Miller‏ @tommillergf FollowingFollowing @tommillergf MoUND hasn't officially announced new WR coach position but rumored hire Sam King is at the Betty in Hawk gear. The GF native impressed the staff during his time as a GA, was with Duluth last season. 10:57 AM - 29 Dec 2018