southpaw Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 the jury will begin deliberating tomorrow, around noon. the defense wrapped up their case yesterday and the prosecution only called one expert to the stand today. this afternoon, judge ralph erickson gave some basic instructions to the jurors. tomorrow morning will be much of the same. then the jury will decide if they want to take a lunch break or start deliberating right away. the more this case has progressed, the more i think that he won't get the death penalty. not because he doesn't deserve it, but because it seems to me that it would be very hard to get 12 people to agree to sentence him to death. the jurors could be so scared of thinking they would be held responsible for the killing of another person that they would just rather see him rot in jail. i expect it to take two hours max of deliberating, when the jury realizes that there are a couple people who just won't bring themselves to sentence him to death. expect a verdict a little bit after noon tomorrow. Quote
jloos Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 the jury will begin deliberating tomorrow, around noon. the defense wrapped up their case yesterday and the prosecution only called one expert to the stand today. this afternoon, judge ralph erickson gave some basic instructions to the jurors. tomorrow morning will be much of the same. then the jury will decide if they want to take a lunch break or start deliberating right away. the more this case has progressed, the more i think that he won't get the death penalty. not because he doesn't deserve it, but because it seems to me that it would be very hard to get 12 people to agree to sentence him to death. the jurors could be so scared of thinking they would be held responsible for the killing of another person that they would just rather see him rot in jail. i expect it to take two hours max of deliberating, when the jury realizes that there are a couple people who just won't bring themselves to sentence him to death. expect a verdict a little bit after noon tomorrow. If the jury comes back quickly I would expect the sentence will be death. The evidence in this case appears overwhelming. I would be very surprised if the jury did not find the death penalty was warranted. I do not agree with the death penalty, but legally, this case appears to be a prime example of the type of criminal who should receive it. If there is one or two holdouts, I would expect the deliberations to be lengthy. Quote
Shawn-O Posted September 20, 2006 Posted September 20, 2006 It's in the jury's hands now. God be with them. http://www.startribune.com/10086/story/687112.html Quote
BringDeanBack Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 I hope that you are right with the death penalty. But all it takes is one indecisive juror to prevent the death penalty. Quote
Greybeard Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 Every day in the Mpls. Tribune they bring out more on this guy. Today they reported the prosecution's closing argument where he stated that Dru was forced to walk to that ravine, naked from the waist down, already sexually assaulted, hands tied behind her back, a knife wound already in her side, freezing cold, and a cloth hood over her head. In your worst nightmare can you imagine being more scared than she was at that point? I don't think it's possible. I may have had a hard time voting for the death penalty, but NOT after reading that this morning. Think about the time in your life when you were the most scared, then multiply that by about fifty, and that's what Dru Sjodin was feeling when she was stumbling towards that ravine with a hood over her head and her hands tied behind her back. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Every day in the Mpls. Tribune they bring out more on this guy. Today they reported the prosecution's closing argument where he stated that Dru was forced to walk to that ravine, naked from the waist down, already sexually assaulted, hands tied behind her back, a knife wound already in her side, freezing cold, and a cloth hood over her head. That is readily available information that is printed in the Fargo Forum, Grand Forks Herald, Bismarck Tribune, etc, on a daily basis. We do have newspapers here in Nodak if you can believe it. Quote
Shawn-O Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Obviously, none of us could possibly know what's going on with those deliberations as we speak. But if I were a betting man, I'd say that there are one or two jurors that don't have the stomach to impose a death sentence. I hope I'm wrong. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Obviously, none of us could possibly know what's going on with those deliberations as we speak. But if I were a betting man, I'd say that there are one or two jurors that don't have the stomach to impose a death sentence. I hope I'm wrong. I agree with your assessment. It definitely is looking that way with the time they are taking, however a man's life is at stake so maybe they are being very diligent and are thoroughly examining all the evidence. Quote
sioux7>5 Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 I agree with your assessment. It definitely is looking that way with the time they are taking, however a man's life is at stake so maybe they are being very diligent and are thoroughly examining all the evidence. People keep saying that there is a mans life at stake. I do not think so. He is not a man. A real man does not need to rape and torture someone as brutally as he did. He is a monster, nothing more nothing less. There should not even be debate. He should die, for he is not even human. Quote
Smoggy Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Let's say he does get the death penalty. It's an automatic appeal. This process is far from over and will end up costing millions and taking years. After all that, couldn't it still be decades before he even gets put to death? I'm for the death penalty, but it's a very expensive very long process and sometimes I do question if it is worth it. In this case I think it is. Quote
mksioux Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Let's say he does get the death penalty. It's an automatic appeal. This process is far from over and will end up costing millions and taking years. After all that, couldn't it still be decades before he even gets put to death? I'm for the death penalty, but it's a very expensive very long process and sometimes I do question if it is worth it. In this case I think it is. Federal court is not like many state courts. If he gets death, it will not be decades before he is executed. Quote
Smoggy Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Federal court is not like many state courts. If he gets death, it will not be decades before he is executed. That's the part I was figuring, though from what I hear the appeals trials will still take a few years. Quote
jloos Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Article The average waiting time of three years in Virginia is one-third the national average of 9.1 years before execution, the report shows. "Virginia, we believe, has the strongest and best capital-punishment law in the nation," says Tim Murtaugh, spokesman for Virginia Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore. "Our statute is very specific, and it's been tested and retested all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. It's very sound." Federal death-row inmates wait an average of 4.1 years before being executed. Death-row inmates in Washington state and Delaware had the third-shortest average waiting time to die, 5.1 years. Inmates in Tennessee and Utah wait the longest time on average, at 11.3 years. I always thought the feds would have the shortest time, as they cannot appeal in both state and fed court. It looks like they have the second-shortest time - 4.1 years. However, I think this factors in those that waive appeals (e.g. Tim McVeigh). If Rodriguez gets death, it will likely be around 5 years before he is executed. Quote
YaneA Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 KNOX report verdict to be returned any minute now. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Verdict is in. Please stand by ... Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Just moments ago.......wow..... Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I'm listening to WDAY 970 live Quote
Shawn-O Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Holy smoke. Press conference upcoming. WDAY audio stream: http://www.in-forum.com/av/index.cfm?filen...t&type=wday Quote
SiouxPride0303 Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Wow....I'm surprised. Content with the verdict but still surprised. I cant take pleasure in a man's death no matter how terrible his life and this doesnt change things for Dru and her family... But justice has been served. Today proved our system does work and that the death penalty is warranted. Your spirit has been hanging around this courtroom too long Dru...go in Peace. Quote
Siouxmama Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I cant take pleasure in a man's death no matter how terrible his life... I can. I have been in the position of having 2 family members murdered, and having their murderer sentenced to death. It was a very good day for our family. Quote
Fetch Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I cried after I heard what Drew Wrigley said Quote
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