NCAA seeding

[petey23]

13 minutes ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

I envision us having either Kato or UMD in our regional. Which is FINE I suppose. If we get BOTH I’ll be upset. I’d hope the NCAA would know by now that UND fans alone can fill a regional and thus moving teams to it isn’t needed 😉 

I know it is the NCAA but they should not flip #19 and #13 under any circumstances. If you can't flip the 11 and 12 there is no way you flip teams 6 spots apart.

[TwamleyShuffle]

Just now, Fratt Mattin said:

The fact that we may get a much harder regional than we deserve because of attendance/travel concerns is everything that’s wrong with the current system. Number one seeds should host and everybody should play their numerical match. I could get on board with adjusting matchups to prevent conference foes meeting in the first round, but otherwise, we should be limiting human involvement in match making as much as possible. The high seeds need to be rewarded for playing well in the regular season and not punished to promote attendance

100%
 

The NCAA isn’t low on cash. They can survive either a balanced tourney 

[tnt]

1 minute ago, Fratt Mattin said:

The fact that we may get a much harder regional than we deserve because of attendance/travel concerns is everything that’s wrong with the current system. Number one seeds should host and everybody should play their numerical match. I could get on board with adjusting matchups to prevent conference foes meeting in the first round, but otherwise, we should be limiting human involvement in match making as much as possible. The high seeds need to be rewarded for playing well in the regular season and not punished to promote attendance

Yeah, if they are so worried about attendance have the regionals on campuses.

[cberkas]

1 minute ago, Fratt Mattin said:

The fact that we may get a much harder regional than we deserve because of attendance/travel concerns is everything that’s wrong with the current system. Number one seeds should host and everybody should play their numerical match. I could get on board with adjusting matchups to prevent conference foes meeting in the first round, but otherwise, we should be limiting human involvement in match making as much as possible. The high seeds need to be rewarded for playing well in the regular season and not punished to promote attendance

The moment 1-4 are all in the East the bitching will be loud, especially from here and Denver. 

[cberkas]

1 minute ago, petey23 said:

I know it is the NCAA but they should not flip #19 and #13 under any circumstances. If you can't flip and 11 and 12 there is no way you flip teams 6 spots apart.

Mankato and Merrimack are not remotely close as Mankato and UConn are

[petey23]

2 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Dartmouth will be moved to Sioux Falls and Cornell to Albany. 

Providence to Worcester 

Then were does Quinnipiac go?

[petey23]

5 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Mankato and Merrimack are not remotely close as Mankato and UConn are

Not sure if you are agreeing with me? My point is in the past they have flipped a 13 with a 15 who may or not be close(especially in the case of the 15) but they are so hung up on their bands that they won't even think of flipping #12 and #13 who may have a razor thin difference.

[cberkas]

2 minutes ago, petey23 said:

Then were does Quinnipiac go?

 With Providence

[cberkas]

2 minutes ago, petey23 said:

Not sure if you are agreeing with me? My point is in the past they have flipped a 12 and 14 or 15 who may or not be close(especially in the case of the 15) but they are so hung up on their bands that they won't even think of flipping #11 and #12 who may have a razor thin difference.

I agree with you, looking at NPI in the 4 seeds Mankato and UConn are the closest

[fargosioux]

My projections:

Albany

Michigan (1) v Bentley (16)

Dartmouth (6) v Penn State (9)

Sioux Falls

UND (2) v Merrimack (15)

Duluth (8) v Quinnipiac (10)

Worcester

Michigan St (3) v UConn (14)

Providence (7) v Cornell (11)

Loveland

Western Mich (4) v Mankato (13)

Denver (5) v Wisconsin (12)

[petey23]

1 minute ago, cberkas said:

I agree with you, looking at NPI in the 4 seeds Mankato and UConn are the closest

I agree because the other two 4 seeds are #19 and #23

[108498]

I would hate to meet MD. They have had our number much of fhe year. 

[TwamleyShuffle]

Just now, 108498 said:

I would hate to meet MD. They have had our number much of fhe year. 

Though two of the losses were in the silly game of 3 on 3 OT. 

[Dustin]

The qualifying teams, in order.

#1 Seeds: Michigan, North Dakota, Michigan State, Western Michigan

#2 Seeds: Denver, Dartmouth, Providence, Minnesota-Duluth

#3 Seeds: Penn State, Quinnipiac, Cornell, Wisconsin

#4 Seeds: Minnesota State, Connecticut, Merrimack, Bentley

In perfectly true seeding, Dartmouth and Cornell would be paired for a regional semi-final, so there will be at least one swap.  

I think committee likes that Western Michigan and Denver pair for a regional, so only one NCHC team can make it out.  I think they also swap Providence and Minn-Duluth for the same reason, plus that would be a natural attendance/travel swap.  I think the committee pair Big Ten teams so only few can make it out of the regionals.  That said, here's the way I see the bracket.

Worcester: Michigan vs. Bentley, Providence vs. Penn State

Sioux Falls: North Dakota vs. Merrimack, Minn-Duluth vs. Quinnipiac

Albany: Michigan State vs. UConn, Dartmouth vs. Wisconsin

Loveland: Western Michigan vs. Minnesota State, Denver vs. Cornell

 

[108498]

And 2 blow out loses. 

[SiouxFanatic]

Just now, 108498 said:

I would hate to meet MD. They have had our number much of fhe year. 

Huh? It was pretty evenly matched games besides the Frozen Faceoff semifinal game. UND beat them twice in regulation, Duluth won twice in 3x3 OT and then the already mentioned semifinal game.

[TwamleyShuffle]

Regardless who we face, I think it’s good to take a step back and realize this time last year we didn’t have to worry who we played in the NCAAs as we didn’t make it. Great work to the team so far and let’s finish things off the right way #NineIsFine

[RedFrog]

The question is what is the best answer for the 2 v 3 bands, specifically as it pertains to Dartmouth in the 2 band and the Queue and Cornell in the 3 band.  Do you make three moves to fix it by putting UMD in Sioux Falls, Providence to Worcester, and Dartmouth to Albany?  Or, do you simplify it by making 2 moves of UMD to Worcester and Dartmouth to Albany? 

[Dustin]

17 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Something tells me we're gonna see all four NCHC teams put into 2 regionals.

And all four Big Ten teams in 2 regionals.

[SIOUXpucks]

As others have speculated, you just KNOW the NCAA will swap Duluth into the Sioux Falls region. 

[Fratt Mattin]

1 minute ago, SIOUXpucks said:

As others have speculated, you just KNOW the NCAA will swap Duluth into the Sioux Falls region. 

They’re so desperate for the NCHC to stop winning every year. They’ll do anything to get the Little 10 a title 

[TwamleyShuffle]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXpucks said:

As others have speculated, you just KNOW the NCAA will swap Duluth into the Sioux Falls region. 

On paper, the move isn’t Siouxper deleterious to us. As they are the 8th team in the tourney. Meaning we are on paper, getting a weaker opponent

[GeauxSioux]

Duluth did not win the regular season or the conference tournament. They should not be rewarded by moving up a slot due to geography. 

[Dustin]

1 minute ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

On paper, the move isn’t Siouxper deleterious to us. As they are the 8th team in the tourney. Meaning we are on paper, getting a weaker opponent

Correct.

[fargosioux]

4 minutes ago, RedFrog said:

Do you make three moves to fix it by putting UMD in Sioux Falls, Providence to Worcester, and Dartmouth to Albany?

This is what I have the committee doing.