NewUndFan Posted yesterday at 04:08 PM Posted yesterday at 04:08 PM 1 hour ago, UND92,96 said: While the coaching and overall recruiting were poor under Mallory, I still maintain that UND was very close to being pretty good in 2024-25 despite her ineptitude. If this year's team still had Pemberton, Schiller and Ibrahim, along with Demers, Aumer, Hughes, Ava Miller, Piekny, Hillesheim and Harris, UND is probably no worse than third or fourth in the Summit. Splitting two close games vs. NDSU that season, and being far more competitive vs. SDSU than in the years prior, suggests that Hutter did probably have a pretty big impact in his one year as an assistant, and if he can figure out a way to add some talent close to the level of the top three players from 2024-25, there may be hope. Even more reason I say Mal blew up the team! She finally had the pieces last year and whatever happened during the season it blew up at the end. I would argue that team may have competed for 3rd if we kept Josie, Ibrahim and Pemberton. She couldnt keep them together. I still think back to our 2 Four Star recruits we got out of Michigan. Neither contributed. They both transferred to Omaha together and that coach got fired that week. Then one transferred to a D2 school. Quote
OldschoolUND Posted yesterday at 04:25 PM Posted yesterday at 04:25 PM 9 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: Even more reason I say Mal blew up the team! She finally had the pieces last year and whatever happened during the season it blew up at the end. I would argue that team may have competed for 3rd if we kept Josie, Ibrahim and Pemberton. She couldnt keep them together. I still think back to our 2 Four Star recruits we got out of Michigan. Neither contributed. They both transferred to Omaha together and that coach got fired that week. Then one transferred to a D2 school. Had to look it up since you brought it up. Rakiyah Beal transferred to Alabama A&M. Played 30 games and started 28 of them averaging 24.7 minutes. A&M won the in season division title. I would call that a pretty good year and a smart decision to leave! Maybe look some stuff up before you talk trash about something you know nothing about! Quote
NewUndFan Posted yesterday at 04:34 PM Posted yesterday at 04:34 PM 5 minutes ago, OldschoolUND said: Had to look it up since you brought it up. Rakiyah Beal transferred to Alabama A&M. Played 30 games and started 28 of them averaging 24.7 minutes. A&M won the in season division title. I would call that a pretty good year and a smart decision to leave! Maybe look some stuff up before you talk trash about something you know nothing about! OK First I did Look her up Long before you did! I would say NOW as a junior in a League that is WAY less quality teams then a Summit league now averaging 7 Points and 2 rebounds is NOT Great for a 4 star recruit . Did you look up Hurst Stats too?? How well did she do at the D2 school? If you watched any games of UND and you seem like a real expert you would know Rakiyah was NOT a asset to the team. Maybe a third rate league she can get some minutes. So stop spewing all your trash. You obviously have a beef with Hutter! 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM 12 minutes ago, OldschoolUND said: Had to look it up since you brought it up. Rakiyah Beal transferred to Alabama A&M. Played 30 games and started 28 of them averaging 24.7 minutes. A&M won the in season division title. I would call that a pretty good year and a smart decision to leave! Maybe look some stuff up before you talk trash about something you know nothing about! The SWAC!!!! She shot 34% from the field lol 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted yesterday at 04:37 PM Posted yesterday at 04:37 PM 14 minutes ago, OldschoolUND said: Had to look it up since you brought it up. Rakiyah Beal transferred to Alabama A&M. Played 30 games and started 28 of them averaging 24.7 minutes. A&M won the in season division title. I would call that a pretty good year and a smart decision to leave! Maybe look some stuff up before you talk trash about something you know nothing about! Also I know you are such a expert on things. I also looked something up Based on KenPom's ratings for the 2024-2025 season (approaching the final rankings in March 2025), the Division 1 women's basketball conferences with the lowest average adjusted efficiency margin (AdjEM) are typically the Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) and the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) So yeah your star can average 7 points in the worst womens conference. Quote
OldschoolUND Posted yesterday at 05:23 PM Posted yesterday at 05:23 PM 39 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: OK First I did Look her up Long before you did! I would say NOW as a junior in a League that is WAY less quality teams then a Summit league now averaging 7 Points and 2 rebounds is NOT Great for a 4 star recruit . Did you look up Hurst Stats too?? How well did she do at the D2 school? If you watched any games of UND and you seem like a real expert you would know Rakiyah was NOT a asset to the team. Maybe a third rate league she can get some minutes. So stop spewing all your trash. You obviously have a beef with Hutter! If we are going to start assuming things I would say you're his relative and boyfriend! Once you and him get done doing whatever it is you do together. Why don't both of you take your head out of the door that's been slamming on it running the same offense chucking up 3's all year with no adjustments! Example - I got great idea we have this quarterback that can't throw but let's run an offense were the only thing he does is throw. BRAINDEAD COACHING! Quote
GoodGood Posted yesterday at 05:35 PM Posted yesterday at 05:35 PM 9 minutes ago, OldschoolUND said: If we are going to start assuming things I would say you're his relative and boyfriend! Once you and him get done doing whatever it is you do together. Why don't both of you take your head out of the door that's been slamming on it running the same offense chucking up 3's all year with no adjustments! Example - I got great idea we have this quarterback that can't throw but let's run an offense were the only thing he does is throw. BRAINDEAD COACHING! What system should they have ran and how many more wins would have it resulted in? Quote
Susie54 Posted yesterday at 10:28 PM Posted yesterday at 10:28 PM 4 hours ago, GoodGood said: What system should they have ran and how many more wins would have it resulted in? There is one question we all need to ask ourselves- Is the current coach who we want being the face of a program built on tradition and accountability? He has a long ways to go. Remember he was involved and in charge of the recruiting for the past 2 years. The players that entered the portal could have decided to stay after he was hired - so was he also part of the reason for leaving? 1 Quote
GoodGood Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Susie54 said: There is one question we all need to ask ourselves- Is the current coach who we want being the face of a program built on tradition and accountability? He has a long ways to go. Remember he was involved and in charge of the recruiting for the past 2 years. The players that entered the portal could have decided to stay after he was hired - so was he also part of the reason for leaving? You didn’t answer the question Quote
OldschoolUND Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 56 minutes ago, GoodGood said: You didn’t answer the question ANYTHING !!!!!!!!! Coaches make adjustments through the year,game,qtr, and even by the minute. Nope just chuck it at will! Quote
GoodGood Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 5 minutes ago, OldschoolUND said: ANYTHING !!!!!!!!! Coaches make adjustments through the year,game,qtr, and even by the minute. Nope just chuck it at will! Intelligent answer 1 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 10 minutes ago, GoodGood said: Intelligent answer Based on how they matched up athletically to a lot of teams this is the way they had to play IMO. 3 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Susie54 said: There is one question we all need to ask ourselves- Is the current coach who we want being the face of a program built on tradition and accountability? He has a long ways to go. Remember he was involved and in charge of the recruiting for the past 2 years. The players that entered the portal could have decided to stay after he was hired - so was he also part of the reason for leaving? I’d love to hear the truth on this, wasn’t everybody out the door before Hutter was hired? Quote
sioux24/7 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 11 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: I’d love to hear the truth on this, wasn’t everybody out the door before Hutter was hired? Yes prior to him being named HC. I mean they could have came back if they thought Hutter was the answer. Quote
DL Sioux Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, sioux24/7 said: Yes prior to him being named HC. I mean they could have came back if they thought Hutter was the answer. True, were they welcome back? Hutter needs at least another year before judgement!! Quote
ND-fan Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago That statement above is not correct before Hutter was even hired we had eight or nine in the portal and when we had this mass exodus then Berhard resigned. These players had chose transfer and there was never any public statement they wanted to return and internally I don’t know but usually once you enter portal very players return to their school. After this was when Hutter was hired next coach. Also was hired late in 2024 - 2025 he was not involved with the team structure he was hired as assistant coach. The recruits of Hillesheim, Harvey and reardon were Berhard recruits. Hutter signed six on this team after he was hired to fill out this roster Harris, Ava miller, Hannah miller, Ohnstad, Hughes, and Klosterbuer. The recruits he was responsible especially for the players that number of years of eligibility showed potential to develop into players that could develop into solid role players for the program. Some of the problem number of girls that came in have had injuries this season. Harris, Harvey Klosterbuer, and Reardon were out at the end of season plus Hillesheim, Volmer, and fletcher did have injuries through the season. I started this reply yesterday and see continued discussion about Hutter but I think this needs to be disclosed it gives texture to what we have been thru. Ithis shows his roster build of players with several years of eligibility have shown potential even when this team was gutted before he was hired trying to put together roster on short notice late in the process. Ironically same thing happened to Omaha this year only difference we kept some core players but both just as dismal roster restructures. This past year was never going to be anything but wasted year until we could start to rebuild of this program to be successful now you need core of high school with strategic transfer players fill in weaknesses. This reality of where we were last year and where we are now with basketball program that has many deficiencies facilities, finances, and support from university and this is not just this program but men’s basketball, and volleyball as well other programs that are just catching up now. I think we may actually ahead because number of players on this roster could be core to developing team that least can become competitive in conference but to become contender we need to invest in this program like top five teams in the conference have done we’re not even close now. Quote
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