NewUndFan Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I wish Woodson well but I think he was a disappointment for me this year. Only guys I hope we keep at this point are Eli, Mara and Kraft. Let's see what the coaches can bring in! I'm starting to kind of like this portal stuff now ! Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 17 Posted March 17 49 minutes ago, UND1983 said: If they extend him there will be an all-time dropout if interest, when it can hardly get any lower Firing with a buyout is ideal, but UND’s (Chaves’) cheapness and low standards mean we’ll likely wait another year. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 hours ago, F'n Hawks said: I have belief in year 7! Math gives Sather a 10% shot at a winning 2025-2026 season based on his 38.8% win rate. That implies a 90% chance UND seeks a new coach by March 2026, unless Sather jumps ship early (unlikely) or Chaves keeps him despite the dismal record (more likely given ridiculously low standards around UND). Quote
jdub27 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 11 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Firing with a buyout is ideal, but UND’s (Chaves’) cheapness Takes money to buy whiskey. Cheapness would be keeping available money and not doing anything with it. I don't think the money is there for basketball and if it is, it could be better spent elsewhere. Neither of those are "cheapness". Basketball supporters found money to get help move on from Jones the last year of his contract. I don't see the same sentiment right now with Sather despite results that leave everyone wanting more. Times are also different and coaching into the last year of the contract isn't the big deal it used to be. 1 1 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Takes money to buy whiskey. Cheapness would be keeping available money and not doing anything with it. I don't think the money is there for basketball and if it is, it could be better spent elsewhere. Neither of those are "cheapness". Basketball supporters found money to get help move on from Jones the last year of his contract. I don't see the same sentiment right now with Sather despite results that leave everyone wanting more. Times are also different and coaching into the last year of the contract isn't the big deal it used to be. Jones was bought out? I thought he left himself. I guess maybe that’s just how it was displayed? Quote
Kab Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Low level d1 schools are in trouble any good player will be in the portal players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that i can’t put that on any coach to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO , ‘who would want to coach ? 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted March 17 Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Jones was bought out? I thought he left himself. I guess maybe that’s just how it was displayed? We had to pay the difference wasn’t much $30kish Quote
Popular Post HoopsFan03 Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Kab said: Low level d1 schools are in trouble any good player will be in the portal players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that i can’t put that on any coach to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO , ‘who would want to coach ? Why does Sather get every excuse in the book? Every single other coach in the country is dealing with the exact same thing. People are too busy making excuses at UND than actually figuring out how to win instead. 7 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Jones was bought out? I thought he left himself. I guess maybe that’s just how it was displayed? I believe he still had two years remaining on his contract though you are correct, he opted to publicly step down to take the associate job at Illinois State. That meant UND likely didn't have to pay much of an actual buyout since there would be an offset clause. What happened behind the scenes, not exactly sure but you don't see a lot of people stepping down to take a lesser role. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 17 Posted March 17 31 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Takes money to buy whiskey. Cheapness would be keeping available money and not doing anything with it. I don't think the money is there for basketball and if it is, it could be better spent elsewhere. Neither of those are "cheapness". Basketball supporters found money to get help move on from Jones the last year of his contract. I don't see the same sentiment right now with Sather despite results that leave everyone wanting more. Times are also different and coaching into the last year of the contract isn't the big deal it used to be. Don’t agree. There’s plenty of cash for MBB, just not being allocated towards it. All comes back to priority/importance. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 17 Posted March 17 27 minutes ago, Kab said: Low level d1 schools are in trouble any good player will be in the portal players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that i can’t put that on any coach to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO , ‘who would want to coach ? The problem with this is that, even when UND had their “good player” this year, they couldn’t compete and had a horrible losing record. 1 Quote
McBuckets Posted March 17 Posted March 17 46 minutes ago, Kab said: Low level d1 schools are in trouble any good player will be in the portal players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that i can’t put that on any coach to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO , ‘who would want to coach ? I can think of 200,000 reasons why someone would want to coach at UND. Regardless of how you feel about the new landscape of college athletics, they’re changing for better or worse. Good programs don’t complain about the hand they’re dealt they just go figure it out. 4 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Don’t agree. There’s plenty of cash for MBB, just not being allocated towards it. All comes back to priority/importance. Where's the cash going instead? The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Where's the cash going instead? The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere. where's the money going.....i think she knows. 4 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 17 Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, McBuckets said: Good programs don’t complain about the hand they’re dealt they just go figure it out. Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. 18 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Where's the cash going instead? The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere. I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process. 4 1 1 Quote
Popular Post NewUndFan Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Kab said: Low level d1 schools are in trouble any good player will be in the portal players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that i can’t put that on any coach to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO , ‘who would want to coach ? Drake hired a D2 coach who brought over a bunch of D2 players and is now in the NCAA tournament. Some talking they could upset the first round. If you hire the right coach they make this portal thing work or they can cry that everything is against them. At UND we dont like to hold people accountable for the jobs they do and if they fail we just move them to an alumni job. Not at all how any other major university works. 3 4 Quote
Kab Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, HoopsFan03 said: Why does Sather get every excuse in the book? Every single other coach in the country is dealing with the exact same thing. People are too busy making excuses at UND than actually figuring out how to win instead. Not making excuses , I don’t know if he should stay or go just the way I see it what is your magic solution to win? I watched a pod cast with Trey and he said he wanted to leave last year but Sather said he should stay and develop another year so he did trey talked about how much he loved Sather Quote
jdub27 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process. And everyone in Fargo wants to run their AD out of town..... So just for clarification on the second part, you say the money is definitely there but it isn't your job to help fund the department? I don't think there is any argument that they need to continuously come up with ways to increase funding (which is always amusing because almost every time, people complain when they do implement those new ideas). I'm not defending how things are done I've given plenty of thoughts to those in charge on ways I think they can be better. But I am I'm questioning your comments that they are being cheap and have the money to do better. Yes, you can always do better and yes you should always be innovating to find new sources of funds, both of which I see attempts at them doing. However, that is different than what you said, that they have the money and are being "cheap" with it. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, jdub27 said: And everyone in Fargo wants to run their AD out of town..... Source? Serious question. 1 Quote
CMSioux Posted March 17 Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, Kab said: Not making excuses , I don’t know if he should stay or go just the way I see it what is your magic solution to win? I watched a pod cast with Trey and he said he wanted to leave last year but Sather said he should stay and develop another year so he did trey talked about how much he loved Sather Well at least we know Sather was planning on not having him next year. What did Trey develop? It was not his defense or his physique. 1 Quote
iramurphy Posted March 17 Posted March 17 38 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process. You have no idea how I feel about UND’s strategy. You have no idea what my experience and relationships have been with UND. You assume a lot. You haven’t really shown, other than bitching about the failures of the athletic teams and the athletic department, that you have anything worthwhile to offer. Anyone who follows UND athletics can read the game results. Nobody on this forum has said UND is perfect. Leave others out of your stupid posts and see if you can come up with specific ideas to improve things. I’m not going to contribute money, that could go to scholarships or NIL, to fire coaches a year before their contract is up. When I have gone to UND staff with ideas, I have found them receptive. One has raised money, the other has saved money. What are your alternative ideas? Be specific. 3 Quote
McBuckets Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I’ll bring this thread back on topic. Common theme at the start of the portal, UND wants wings that can shoot it 3 Quote
Kab Posted March 17 Posted March 17 The 6 foot 8 guy from Minot state looks like a good player, don’t know if he is d1 level but he could rebound and score Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, McBuckets said: I’ll bring this thread back on topic. Common theme at the start of the portal, UND wants wings that can shoot it get that phone number to white glasses and have him offer free cheesy pickles for life. Quote
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