Transfer Portal - 2025

[UND-FB-FAN]

27 minutes ago, Kab said:

Low level d1 schools are in trouble

any good player will be in the portal

players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that

i can’t put that on any coach

to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO ,

‘who would want to coach ?

The problem with this is that, even when UND had their “good player” this year, they couldn’t compete and had a horrible losing record.

[McBuckets]

46 minutes ago, Kab said:

Low level d1 schools are in trouble

any good player will be in the portal

players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that

i can’t put that on any coach

to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO ,

‘who would want to coach ?

I can think of 200,000 reasons why someone would want to coach at UND. Regardless of how you feel about the new landscape of college athletics, they’re changing for better or worse. Good programs don’t complain about the hand they’re dealt they just go figure it out. 

[jdub27]

23 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Don’t agree. There’s plenty of cash for MBB, just not being allocated towards it. All comes back to priority/importance.

Where's the cash going instead?
The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere.

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Where's the cash going instead?
The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere.

where's the money going.....i think she knows.

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

18 minutes ago, McBuckets said:

Good programs don’t complain about the hand they’re dealt they just go figure it out. 

Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. 
 

 

18 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Where's the cash going instead?
The athletic department runs at a deficit (like the majority in the country) so it isn't being hoarded anywhere.

I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process.

[NewUndFan]

1 hour ago, Kab said:

Low level d1 schools are in trouble

any good player will be in the portal

players think they are better than they might be because agents and friends tell them that

i can’t put that on any coach

to rebuild every year is reality and a good recorded will be the exception IMHO ,

‘who would want to coach ?

Drake hired a D2 coach who brought over a bunch of D2 players and is now in the NCAA tournament.  Some talking they could upset the first round.  If you hire the right coach they make this portal thing work or they can cry that everything is against them.  At UND we dont like to hold people accountable for the jobs they do and if they fail we just move them to an alumni job.   Not at all how any other major university works.  

[Kab]

1 hour ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Why does Sather get every excuse in the book? Every single other coach in the country is dealing with the exact same thing.

People are too busy making excuses at UND than actually figuring out how to win instead.

Not making excuses , I don’t know if he should stay or go

just the way I see it

what is your magic solution to win?

I watched a pod cast with Trey and he said he wanted to leave last year but Sather said he should stay and develop another year so he did

trey talked about how much he loved Sather 

 

 

 

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. 
 

 

I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process.

And everyone in Fargo wants to run their AD out of town.....

So just for clarification on the second part, you say the money is definitely there but it isn't your job to help fund the department?
I don't think there is any argument that they need to continuously come up with ways to increase funding (which is always amusing because almost every time, people complain when they do implement those new ideas).
I'm not defending how things are done I've given plenty of thoughts to those in charge on ways I think they can be better.
But I am I'm questioning your comments that they are being cheap and have the money to do better. Yes, you can always do better and yes you should always be innovating to find new sources of funds, both of which I see attempts at them doing. However, that is different than what you said, that they have the money and are being "cheap" with it.

[fightingsioux4life]

3 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

And everyone in Fargo wants to run their AD out of town.....

Source? Serious question.

[CMSioux]

13 minutes ago, Kab said:

Not making excuses , I don’t know if he should stay or go

just the way I see it

what is your magic solution to win?

I watched a pod cast with Trey and he said he wanted to leave last year but Sather said he should stay and develop another year so he did

trey talked about how much he loved Sather 

 

 

 

Well at least we know Sather was planning on not having him next year. What did Trey develop? It was not his defense or his physique.

[iramurphy]

38 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Yep, just look down the road. Sickening. 
 

 

I’m not going to play UND’s accountant (CFO) this morning, but there are always different potential strategies to fund the athletic department, and to die on the hill that UND is doing it perfect is beyond ignorant in my opinion. Most should be open to alternatives if it means a different and perhaps better outcome, but I love how @jdub27 and @iramurphy continue to defend how the hierarchy thinks at UND, continually demonstrating the flaws in that thought-process.

You have no idea how I feel about UND’s  strategy. You have no idea what my experience and relationships have been with UND.  You assume a lot.

You haven’t really shown, other  than bitching about the failures of the athletic teams and the athletic department, that   you have anything worthwhile to offer.  Anyone who follows UND athletics can read the game results.  Nobody on this forum has said UND is perfect. 
 

Leave others out of your stupid posts and see if you can come up with specific ideas to improve things.  I’m not going to contribute money, that could go to scholarships or NIL, to fire coaches  a year before their contract is up.  
 

When I have gone to UND staff with ideas, I have found them receptive.  One has raised money, the other has saved money. What are your alternative ideas?  Be specific.  

 

[McBuckets]

 

[McBuckets]

I’ll bring this thread back on topic. Common theme at the start of the portal, UND wants wings that can shoot it

[Kab]

The 6 foot 8 guy from Minot state looks like a good player, don’t know if he is d1 level but he could rebound and score 

[SIOUXFAN97]

13 minutes ago, McBuckets said:

I’ll bring this thread back on topic. Common theme at the start of the portal, UND wants wings that can shoot it

get that phone number to white glasses and have him offer free cheesy pickles for life.

[McBuckets]

9 minutes ago, Kab said:

The 6 foot 8 guy from Minot state looks like a good player, don’t know if he is d1 level but he could rebound and score 

Caleb Van De Griend, I haven’t seen much of him but he puts up 21 PPG and 13 REB and was first team NSIC. He kind of came out of no where this year

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 hours ago, jdub27 said:

you say the money is definitely there but it isn't your job to help fund the department?

The CFO does not fund the department ….

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 hours ago, iramurphy said:

You have no idea how I feel about UND’s  strategy. You have no idea what my experience and relationships have been with UND.  You assume a lot.

You haven’t really shown, other  than bitching about the failures of the athletic teams and the athletic department, that   you have anything worthwhile to offer.  Anyone who follows UND athletics can read the game results.  Nobody on this forum has said UND is perfect. 
 

Leave others out of your stupid posts and see if you can come up with specific ideas to improve things.  I’m not going to contribute money, that could go to scholarships or NIL, to fire coaches  a year before their contract is up.  
 

When I have gone to UND staff with ideas, I have found them receptive.  One has raised money, the other has saved money. What are your alternative ideas?  Be specific.  

 

I don’t claim to know your full history with UND, and I get that fan forums can get heated—ironic, right? You’re right I don’t have all the details, but I’m not just here to complain. I push for solutions, not just on this forum (which I value for insight), but elsewhere too. Criticism like “you’ve got nothing worthwhile” misses the mark—I’m proactive, not whining.

For UND men’s basketball, my ideas are clear: mirror the football team’s recent success. Bring in new coaches to spark excitement, boost NIL / collective funding, raise coaching salaries, start new endowments, and build the program’s brand. It’s straightforward—big vision, bold action, and competent execution. Plus, UND athletics needs sharper staffing decisions—smarter hires, better timing on transitions, and less political correctness.

[iramurphy]

48 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I don’t claim to know your full history with UND, and I get that fan forums can get heated—ironic, right? You’re right I don’t have all the details, but I’m not just here to complain. I push for solutions, not just on this forum (which I value for insight), but elsewhere too. Criticism like “you’ve got nothing worthwhile” misses the mark—I’m proactive, not whining.

For UND men’s basketball, my ideas are clear: mirror the football team’s recent success. Bring in new coaches to spark excitement, boost NIL / collective funding, raise coaching salaries, start new endowments, and build the program’s brand. It’s straightforward—big vision, bold action, and competent execution. Plus, UND athletics needs sharper staffing decisions—smarter hires, better timing on transitions, and less political correctness.

Yet you claim that I and another poster defend how UND hierarchy thinks. I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t know how they think so I can only defend their right to think and I don’t think they are all of the same mind nor should they be. 
Your ideas are clear?  I hate to point out the obvious, but the success of the FB team is to be determined. I like what they are doing so far, but we won’t know if that will be successful until next fall and beyond.  
UND has been working on new ways of funding including encouraging contributions to the NIL/collective.  Prior to that they started the Alston701 initiative.  They have had initiatives for locker replacements, scholarship funding levels and endowment opportunities. For $25,000 you can start your endowment. They have lots of ideas on how to start an endowment even if you don’t have it all right now. The will also help arrange opportunities to include UND in your trust or life insurance beneficiaries. They have been raising coaches salaries. 
It’s hard to build the brand when we still have a divided fan base (Hawks vs Sioux). 
Better hires, forward thinking, big vision, bold action, competent execution, etc. 

The guys in their Mom’s basement in their underwear and Darth Vader slippers can do that well. Basically, you want them to do everything better. 
What specifically are your new innovative ideas? New fund raising ideas?  What experiences do you have that would give us confidence you have more to add than criticism, and at best, a shallow understanding of the cost and complexities of running an athletic department. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

49 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Yet you claim that I and another poster defend how UND hierarchy thinks. I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t know how they think so I can only defend their right to think and I don’t think they are all of the same mind nor should they be. 
Your ideas are clear?  I hate to point out the obvious, but the success of the FB team is to be determined. I like what they are doing so far, but we won’t know if that will be successful until next fall and beyond.  
UND has been working on new ways of funding including encouraging contributions to the NIL/collective.  Prior to that they started the Alston701 initiative.  They have had initiatives for locker replacements, scholarship funding levels and endowment opportunities. For $25,000 you can start your endowment. They have lots of ideas on how to start an endowment even if you don’t have it all right now. The will also help arrange opportunities to include UND in your trust or life insurance beneficiaries. They have been raising coaches salaries. 
It’s hard to build the brand when we still have a divided fan base (Hawks vs Sioux). 
Better hires, forward thinking, big vision, bold action, competent execution, etc. 

The guys in their Mom’s basement in their underwear and Darth Vader slippers can do that well. Basically, you want them to do everything better. 
What specifically are your new innovative ideas? New fund raising ideas?  What experiences do you have that would give us confidence you have more to add than criticism, and at best, a shallow understanding of the cost and complexities of running an athletic department. 

Your dedication to UND athletics program is truly admirable. However, this steadfast support might inadvertently limit your ability to recognize areas where higher standards and greater expectations could drive meaningful improvement. While I acknowledge that I may be making some assumptions here, it seems you might be as well—particularly in presuming that the current hierarchy is adequately serving everyone’s best interests. I encourage you to consider whether this assumption holds true under closer scrutiny.

Being critical is not synonymous with being negative; these are distinct approaches. Criticism, when constructive, involves objectively assessing a situation to identify opportunities for growth. The football program has recently made notable advancements, and it’s essential to acknowledge and build upon this progress rather than diminishing its significance. Your recent comments appeared to downplay these efforts, which risks undermining the broader goal of elevating UND athletics as a whole. Yes, the 2025 team has yet to play a game, but no need to even possibly bring forth negativity there. 

I also find your request for me to (again) submit credentials to you a bit puzzling and somewhat unnecessary. Raising this suggestion again feels redundant and misses the mark on addressing the core issues at hand.

While your instinct to defend UND’s decision-makers is understandable and likely well-intentioned, it can come across as overly protective rather than forward-thinking. A more proactive stance, one that challenges the status quo and pushes for innovation, is what UND athletics needs to reach the next level (in my opinion)—and, ultimately, to strive for greatness. I urge you to shift from a defensive posture to one that champions progress, ensuring that our shared commitment to UND translates into tangible, lasting success.
 

Again, results (on the field and court) matter. 

[iramurphy]

I have no negative feelings toward what the FB team is doing. It seems many judge virtually every program and coach on wins. When you refer to the recent success of the FB team, I would think we have to wait. You must have missed the part where I said I like what they are doing. 
 

I don’t always defend UND’s decision makers nor the coaches, but so can recognize what they’ve done well. I haven’t seen a post on this forum where anyone has claimed the current hierarchy is meeting everyone’s needs.  
 

One’s ability to recognize high standards, turning failing programs into highly successful ones beyond just “ meaningful improvement “ is better measured by deeds, rather than words on a fan forum. 

My opinions are no more relevant than anyone else’s. The fact that I point out things people have done well doesn’t mean I can’t see where mistakes have been made. If we want to discuss the status of a department or program we need a thorough evaluation of what’s working and what isn’t. What I post on a fan forum isn’t going to affect change in the athletic department. 
 
You urge a shift to one that champions possess. How would we know if you have any idea about what it takes to be a champion?
 

[UND-FB-FAN]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

I have no negative feelings toward what the FB team is doing. It seems many judge virtually every program and coach on wins. When you refer to the recent success of the FB team, I would think we have to wait. You must have missed the part where I said I like what they are doing. 
 

I don’t always defend UND’s decision makers nor the coaches, but so can recognize what they’ve done well. I haven’t seen a post on this forum where anyone has claimed the current hierarchy is meeting everyone’s needs.  
 

One’s ability to recognize high standards, turning failing programs into highly successful ones beyond just “ meaningful improvement “ is better measured by deeds, rather than words on a fan forum. 

My opinions are no more relevant than anyone else’s. The fact that I point out things people have done well doesn’t mean I can’t see where mistakes have been made. If we want to discuss the status of a department or program we need a thorough evaluation of what’s working and what isn’t. What I post on a fan forum isn’t going to affect change in the athletic department. 
 
You urge a shift to one that champions possess. How would we know if you have any idea about what it takes to be a champion?
 

Your extensive experience and contributions are widely acknowledged and valued. However, prolonged tenure can inadvertently breed complacency, a significant risk I highlighted previously. In Division I athletics, success hinges on forward-thinking and proactive measures—wins are not merely desirable, they are the cornerstone of recruiting and funding. The UND basketball program’s current trajectory underscores an urgent need for change. Stagnation should not be an option.

Consider the football program: within four months of new leadership, a wave of innovative ideas has revitalized the team, demonstrating the tangible benefits of fresh perspectives. This stands in stark contrast to the status quo, where clinging to past methods—however successful historically—can blind us to present realities. Age and experience alone do not guarantee insight; they can, at times, entrench bias toward outdated practices.

UND men’s basketball team requires new direction now. Delaying this decision is not just ill-advised—it borders on negligence. The transition from Division II to Division I demands more than upgraded facilities; it necessitates a mindset shift, one that prioritizes decisive action over complacency. The time for a new head coach is now.

As for whether or not I’m a champion or not, I’ll let others decide that. There are various definitions for that on an individual level, but from a team sport division 1 athletics perspective, going back to one of your comments, it is in fact wins that do carry the most weight (at least they should; at UND this has been repeatedly questioned though). 

[GoHawks]

You guys really know how to ruin a topic on this site.....

[iramurphy]

4 minutes ago, GoHawks said:

You guys really know how to ruin a topic on this site.....

You are correct. For my part, I apologize. It’s difficult to know where to respond when someone attributes something inaccurate to individuals.  

[BIGSIOUX]

is anyone else's spidey-sense going off?  

I think UND-FB-FAN is using ChatGPT to frame his rebuttals.  

Imagine using AI to argue w/ a stranger on the internet.   Seek Help.