Next Head Coach

[iramurphy]

3 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

I think what I take of that news is could be a chance Sather decides he’s had it here with the portal attrition and go back home. Now that attrition can hit there too but would imagine the thought has at least crossed his mind. Plus basketball is #1 there, not #3. 

Maybe, but he sure seems to be dedicated to his players and excited about the potential to finish the season on a positive note and go into the conference tourney with momentum. I don’t think Northern will be immune to portal attrition. I believe the Bison got Moni from Northern. 

[UND1983]

13 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Sather isn’t going anywhere, but why would we replace a guy who was successful at Northern and replace him with someone who wasn’t successful?

The bottom line is both of these guys can coach. Sather’s job isn’t in danger. 

Which says more about the state of UND athletics than anything.  Our AD is embarrassing across the board.  

[Kab]

I dont think Sather will be let go or leave on his own

the only coaching change may be Mal

[F'n Hawks]

3 minutes ago, Kab said:

I dont think Sather will be let go or leave on his own

the only coaching change may be Mal

Lame duck coach very rare in today’s age. Do they extend him a year or let him coach with 1 year remaining on his contract?

If it’s up to me he’s gone. 

[fightingsioux4life]

14 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Which says more about the state of UND athletics than anything.  Our AD is embarrassing across the board.  

The overall level of mediocrity in our athletic department is simply unacceptable. The idea that Sather is untouchable is proof of that.

[UND1983]

Sather is 72-112 and has won one Summit tourney game (play in) since his first year with Jones players, when he won two.

I cannot believe our once proud school would even consider extending that. 

  

[gfhockey]

16 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Sather is 72-112 and has won one Summit tourney game (play in) since his first year with Jones players, when he won two.

I cannot believe our once proud school would even consider extending that. 

  

Yeah but he’s a nice guy

[sioux24/7]

1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

Maybe, but he sure seems to be dedicated to his players and excited about the potential to finish the season on a positive note and go into the conference tourney with momentum. I don’t think Northern will be immune to portal attrition. I believe the Bison got Moni from Northern. 

Yes as I mentioned it can hit there too and did last year for Saul. Just saying it’s his Alma mater and where he spent many years and knows they’ll invest in it properly for that level. 

[iramurphy]

59 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The overall level of mediocrity in our athletic department is simply unacceptable. The idea that Sather is untouchable is proof of that.

I don’t believe he is untouchable, I just don’t believe he is going anywhere soon. 

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

Which says more about the state of UND athletics than anything.  Our AD is embarrassing across the board.  

Actually, I believe he is pretty well respected. The improvement in facilities and resources is impressive. He and his staff have their “plates full” 24/7.  In addition to facilities and resources his priorities include NCAA/Conference challenges, community connections, interactions with UND admin staff, interactions with alumni staff etc.  He does oversee Athletic teams, coaches, legal issues etc.  Unless he gets poached by another school he won’t be going anywhere soon. 

[GoodGood]

8 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Actually, I believe he is pretty well respected. The improvement in facilities and resources is impressive. He and his staff have their “plates full” 24/7.  In addition to facilities and resources his priorities include NCAA/Conference challenges, community connections, interactions with UND admin staff, interactions with alumni staff etc.  He does oversee Athletic teams, coaches, legal issues etc.  Unless he gets poached by another school he won’t be going anywhere soon. 

Is the outside respect coming from opposing fanbases that cheer every time he gives an unwarranted extension? 

[iramurphy]

5 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Is the outside respect coming from opposing fanbases that cheer every time he gives an unwarranted extension? 

No. Why would anyone care about what goes on in other fan bases?  

[GoodGood]

2 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

No. Why would anyone care about what goes on in other fan bases?  

I’m not sure. I just think when opposing fan bases are cheering that you gave your coach an extension, you might want to rethink that decision. Definitely would’ve helped UND if we did listen!! 

[Oxbow6]

Everything starts at the top

[iramurphy]

20 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

I’m not sure. I just think when opposing fan bases are cheering that you gave your coach an extension, you might want to rethink that decision. Definitely would’ve helped UND if we did listen!! 

I’m not commenting one way or another regarding an extension.

However, none of our decisions at UND should ever be influenced by opposing fans bases. None of NDSU’s, SDSU’s etc decisions should ever be influenced by our fan base either. If that ever happens, it’s time for a change of the administrator who wastes time with other fan bases. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

37 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

No. Why would anyone care about what goes on in other fan bases?  

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Ignorance is bliss, which is especially true with the pseudo-logic being produced on this subject. 

I don’t doubt Sather stays. There’s a lot of contentment around UND athletics. We’ll see how the conference tournament goes, but there’s no question his overall record at UND is not acceptable (or at least should be unacceptable). With that all said, UND MBB is up against it on numerous fronts, not just coaching. Think facilities and funding … have to be able to offset the geographical disadvantages.

What UND AD has done for football in facilities is out of this world … basketball is in need of the same thing sometime in the next 5-10 years.

[UND-FB-FAN]

15 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I’m not commenting one way or another regarding an extension.

However, none of our decisions at UND should ever be influenced by opposing fans bases. None of NDSU’s, SDSU’s etc decisions should ever be influenced by our fan base either. If that ever happens, it’s time for a change of the administrator who wastes time with other fan bases. 

Being aware of the landscape is important, and decisions can be and should be partially influenced by the opposition, but I suppose I agree with you that opposing fan bases shouldn’t directly be influencers. 

[fightingsioux4life]

12 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I’m not commenting one way or another regarding an extension.

However, none of our decisions at UND should ever be influenced by opposing fans bases. None of NDSU’s, SDSU’s etc decisions should ever be influenced by our fan base either. If that ever happens, it’s time for a change of the administrator who wastes time with other fan bases. 

Should our decisions be influenced by results or lack thereof? Because in Bill Chaves' athletic department, wins and losses simply do not matter. When I say that our athletic department is being run like a high school, that is what I am referring to.

[iramurphy]

52 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Should our decisions be influenced by results or lack thereof? Because in Bill Chaves' athletic department, wins and losses simply do not matter. When I say that our athletic department is being run like a high school, that is what I am referring to.

Results need to be part of the equation that decisions are based upon. I believe wins and loses are important to Chaves but not the only thing he considers. 

I’m quite familiar with HS athletic departments and have had experience having served on our regions MSHSL regional athletic committee as well as approving budgets, and hiring of our high school coaches. I’ve had exposure to college athletic departments as an athlete, as a coach and later as part of a medical support team and fund raising project.  

Based on my experience, the claim that UND is run like a HS athletic department is not at all accurate. 

 

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Being aware of the landscape is important, and decisions can be and should be partially influenced by the opposition, but I suppose I agree with you that opposing fan bases shouldn’t directly be influencers. 

There is a huge difference between what our opponents are doing and what their fan base thinks. We need to continually observe and evaluate what the other schools in our conference and our division are doing.  We need to ignore their fan forums. 

[HoopsFan03]

12 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Sather isn’t going anywhere, but why would we replace a guy who was successful at Northern and replace him with someone who wasn’t successful?

The bottom line is both of these guys can coach. Sather’s job isn’t in danger. 

This was supposed to be some sort of joke, right?

I sure hope so at least. 

[GoodGood]

19 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

This was supposed to be some sort of joke, right?

I sure hope so at least. 

In 6 years Sather has won 33% of his d1 games. Hasn’t won a SLT game since pre covid. But his job shouldn’t be in any danger. Our athletic department DEMANDS excellence! 

[HoopsFan03]

11 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

In 6 years Sather has won 33% of his d1 games. Hasn’t won a SLT game since pre covid. But his job shouldn’t be in any danger. Our athletic department DEMANDS excellence! 

I figured that part had to be a joke for sure!

But I was more so questioning that he actually thought anyone was saying UND should hire Phillips?? I was thinking that part had to be some sort of joke as well.

[UND1983]

45 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

I figured that part had to be a joke for sure!

But I was more so questioning that he actually thought anyone was saying UND should hire Phillips?? I was thinking that part had to be some sort of joke as well.

Don't give Chaves any ideas

[AJS]

9 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Results need to be part of the equation that decisions are based upon. I believe wins and loses are important to Chaves but not the only thing he considers. 

We really need to dig into that statement. To a certain degree, you're right. We need to change the word important to somewhat matter, which I think more accurately reflects the truth. Under Chaves, being average is not only acceptable, but gets you extended. The same goes for being somewhat below average. M/W B-ball sitting at 6th place in the Summit, will get high fives all around from Chaves. Berry finishing 4th / 5th and missing the NCAAs. Maybe not high fives, but ah, what can you do. 

Why I say, somewhat matter is accurate, is for change to happen, Chaves needs to see someone go full Bubba. It's damn near impossible given the support the programs get (which I will give credit to Chaves for) to go full Bubba. It does appear that M/W Basketball & Hockey will end up being average / slightly below, which means status quo. A month ago, it was looking like all three had a chance to go full Bubba, but they've all settled on being average.