Big A HG Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM 4 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: good points, my sole tie to UND sports is this site, the logo thing is an interesting situation. Could it be used to facilitate change? No, they quickly swept that whole thing under the rug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM 6 minutes ago, Big A HG said: No, they quickly swept that whole thing under the rug. sometimes things don't stay under rugs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted Sunday at 05:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:39 PM 10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Generational shift … in working smuck words........ they be too old. Is this thread about Bubs or Bubba? are they the same? has anyone seen them both in the same room at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted Sunday at 06:06 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:06 PM 4 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said: People do realize that one key domino that occurs when there’s a coaching change is decommitments from recruits right? If Berry is canned, we likely lose that new recruit who gained exceptional status Oh no! What would they do if a coach voluntarily left for a head coaching job in the NHL? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonW Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Generational shift … Location shift, programs that are thriving are in population centers, Denver, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc. Kids are coming from cities and like similar environments when attending college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted Sunday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:53 PM 2 hours ago, 90siouxfan said: that seems like a stretch of analization... pretty sure no fan of the program holds that view.... the question, imho, is how to transition without disruption.... Hak moved up, don't see Berry having that route available... I was "out of pocket" when Blais & Gino relinquished the helm. If I recall Monty got the tap from the bigs, don't recall Gwoz's final moments.... 2 hours ago, Benny Baker said: After winning his last natty, Gwoz went 1-6 in the NCAAs over his final 8 seasons. (Kind of sounds familiar). Gwoz was let go in April 2013. By April 2017, Denver was national champions again and have won a few titles more since. To add to this. Quote According to the Denver Post, Gwozdecky was fired due to lack of success at the NCAA tournament and an inability to agree to terms on a contract extension Very similar to what is going on at UND. 8 years of not making the Frozen Four and Denver made the change. Quote "The string of consecutive losses in the NCAAs was disappointing," Gwozdecky said. "I understand that we have to win, and we have to win a lot of games. We've gotta win those games not only during the season, but in the NCAA tournament, win national championships. These guys that are sitting in front of you established that bar, way back in the glory days of Murray Armstrong. We try to emulate that. Some years we're able to achieve that. Some years we haven't. Some years it's a great finish, some years it's a frustrating finish. But the efforts, plans, work have only escalated based upon our expectations. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/amp/2013/04/02_gwozdecky_i_was_stunned.php It worked out greatly for Denver when everyone thought it was going to set Denver back a few years. Instead they hung 3 National Titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM 21 minutes ago, JacksonW said: Location shift, programs that are thriving are in population centers, Denver, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc. Kids are coming from cities and like similar environments when attending college. Not this location BS again. UND has never had the edge in that category. And yet our rafters are full of green and white banners. Go figure........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonW Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM 8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Not this location BS again. UND has never had the edge in that category. And yet our rafters are full of green and white banners. Go figure........ Things change, days of winning with small town Canadian and small town northern Minnesota players are a thing of the past 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 08:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:18 PM Just now, JacksonW said: Things change, days of winning with small town Canadian and small town northern Minnesota players are a thing of the past So it's "plucky little mid major" time? Sorry, not in this or any other lifetime. Talent is not the problem with this team. How they perform in March is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:22 PM 4 minutes ago, JacksonW said: Things change, days of winning with small town Canadian and small town northern Minnesota players are a thing of the past Quinnipiac is a small, private school in Connecticut. And yet, they have national success. With a fraction of the resources we have. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonW Posted Sunday at 08:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:24 PM 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: So it's "plucky little mid major" time? Sorry, not in this or any other lifetime. Talent is not the problem with this team. How they perform in March is. The arena and history are huge help in recruiting, but not enough to win at historically high levels. No reason not to win once a decade or so. I have been heavily involved in the junior hockey world and definitely noticed the change in where high end players are coming from and what they are looking for as far as college life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonW Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM 4 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Quinnipiac is a small, private school in Connecticut. And yet, they have national success. With a fraction of the resources we have. They have done a great job finding older recruits that bigger programs looked at and passed 2 years prior. Also pretty close to major population centers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 08:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:42 PM 14 minutes ago, JacksonW said: The arena and history are huge help in recruiting, but not enough to win at historically high levels. No reason not to win once a decade or so. I have been heavily involved in the junior hockey world and definitely noticed the change in where high end players are coming from and what they are looking for as far as college life UND keeps putting players in the NHL. Despite being in a poor location. UND is a blue blood in this sport. Period. The only thing that can change that is poor management. Which is the topic of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357 Posted Sunday at 09:21 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:21 PM 3 hours ago, 90siouxfan said: Is this thread about Bubs or Bubba? are they the same? has anyone seen them both in the same room at the same time? What are the odds that the head coaches of both the hockey & football programs of a university have almost identical nicknames, are both allergic to the postseason & are both affable, "aw shucks" good ol' boys endeared by many? You may be onto something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357 Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM 1 hour ago, JacksonW said: Location shift, programs that are thriving are in population centers, Denver, Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc. Kids are coming from cities and like similar environments when attending college. Livanavage is from Phoenix, Emery's from Compton, Boisvert is a stone throw away from Montreal & Quebec City (appears to almost be a suburb of Montreal), MacDonald is from a Toronto suburb, Strathmann is from Beach Park (suburb of Chicago), Perron is from Winnipeg, Croal is from North Branch (just outside the TC), McLaughlin is from Spring City (just outside Philadelphia), Wiebe is from Mission (suburb of Vancouver), James is from Calgary, Jamernik is from Calgary, Wilke is from Calgary, McKamey is from across the bay in Vancouver, plus we have a few in the pipeline from the TC. It's never been about the location. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM No one is bigger then the program , neither are getting it done and they both know it. Not sure if the game has passed them by or not able to motivate players but they are not getting it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted Sunday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:01 PM 17 hours ago, MGsioux said: You are so pathetic, go root for another team as the siioux family does not need fans like you. Found the Facebooker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted Sunday at 10:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:30 PM All well thought out and completely reasonable posts as are the thousands of the ones like it(from the literal DOZENS of faceless avatars) after every single loss(exhibition or otherwise). I had to be that guy but… it won’t have the effect you hope. The impact it will have on who the coach of UND’s hockey program: 0.000000001%. Maybe… MAYBE someone will show Chaves one of the posts as a joke, but even that’s a long shot. In other words, you’re wasting your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted Sunday at 11:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:16 PM He stays awake during the meetings, so ya gotta be pretty stoked about that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJHovey Posted Sunday at 11:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:27 PM 20 hours ago, SIOUXELEVENS said: I will start this , tens years we have seen his body of work time to try something different. Now this is when Goon says who could we get ? How about some who fogs the mirror when you hold it under the nose, what’s the worse that could happen not make the NCAA’s We have lots of talent but he doesn’t seem able to adapt to this new brand of hockey and ND will be left behind if something doesn’t turn around soon. Thanks Brad time to give someone else a chance. Do we want to be the football team , in the same league but never really in contention. Could probably hire Jay Pandolfo. He seems to bring in a lot of blue chippers. I see they got swept this weekend so I assume he’ll be looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM 2 minutes ago, SJHovey said: Could probably hire Jay Pandolfo. He seems to bring in a lot of blue chippers. I see they got swept this weekend so I assume he’ll be looking. Never once said other teams have better players, their coach’s get more from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted Sunday at 11:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:54 PM 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: All well thought out and completely reasonable posts as are the thousands of the ones like it(from the literal DOZENS of faceless avatars) after every single loss(exhibition or otherwise). I had to be that guy but… it won’t have the effect you hope. The impact it will have on who the coach of UND’s hockey program: 0.000000001%. Maybe… MAYBE someone will show Chaves one of the posts as a joke, but even that’s a long shot. In other words, you’re wasting your time. Facebook warriors UNITE !!!!!! !!!!! NO WHINERS !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM 2 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Facebook warriors UNITE !!!!!! !!!!! NO WHINERS !!!! lol this place is so unhinged 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted yesterday at 02:42 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:42 AM Has Chaves ever fired anyone anywhere?? My gut tells me no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted yesterday at 02:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:48 AM 6 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Quinnipiac is a small, private school in Connecticut. And yet, they have national success. With a fraction of the resources we have. And trust me, I’ll take Grand Forks over Hamden 10/10 times. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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