Stand4Anthem Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Mt St NDSU DAVIS SDSU USD/Idaho St—-5/6 NDSU had the toughest SOS in FCS which gives them the 2–committee will try and setup non conf semis possibly? None of the 2-5 should bitch too much—all had chances but didn’t win when needed—SD schools non D1 wins will hurt them I believe and push them to 4 and 5/6 Quote
forksandspoons Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Regardless of how the seeds end up, it is pure comedy watching NDSU rubes like Herder and Dom try to pretend they’re objective while putting a spin on today’s loss. Some years it matters when the loss happens and others it doesn’t lol Quote
wheelsup Posted November 24 Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Stand4Anthem said: Mt St NDSU DAVIS SDSU USD/Idaho St—-5/6 NDSU had the toughest SOS in FCS which gives them the 2–committee will try and setup non conf semis possibly? None of the 2-5 should bitch too much—all had chances but didn’t win when needed—SD schools non D1 wins will hurt them I believe and push them to 4 and 5/6 Giving ndsu a 2 seed over a team that they lost to in the last week of the year is the definition of stupidity.. SOS is similar.. u sound like Somebody arguing the pairwise in hockey.. should be simple.. Montana st the #1.. usd just beat #1.. so now they are #2.. the rest doesn’t really matter Quote
Und246 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Don’t forget the bison won a non conference game they should have lost. Very very lucky. 1 Quote
Kab Posted November 24 Posted November 24 12 hours ago, wheelsup said: Giving ndsu a 2 seed over a team that they lost to in the last week of the year is the definition of stupidity.. SOS is similar.. u sound like Somebody arguing the pairwise in hockey.. should be simple.. Montana st the #1.. usd just beat #1.. so now they are #2.. the rest doesn’t really matter FU ndsu , they got the number 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Montana State with #1 seed and NDSU gets #2 seed. SDSU #3 and South Dakota with #4. could be big time semi-final games, but NDSU again gifted with home games though out playoffs is tough … Potential SDSU @ NDSU in semifinal would be a big rematch from regular season … tough to win in the dome though. Hate that NDSU is again and again gifted with home playoff games … Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 12 hours ago, wheelsup said: Giving ndsu a 2 seed over a team that they lost to in the last week of the year is the definition of stupidity.. SOS is similar.. u sound like Somebody arguing the pairwise in hockey.. should be simple.. Montana st the #1.. usd just beat #1.. so now they are #2.. the rest doesn’t really matter Better SoS, but I don't think anyone could have complained if they were 3 or 4. Quote
F'n Hawks Posted November 24 Posted November 24 NDSU with free trip to the semis. Likely will be Mercer in the quarters Quote
Bison06 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Montana State with #1 seed and NDSU gets #2 seed. SDSU #3 and South Dakota with #4. could be big time semi-final games, but NDSU again gifted with home games though out playoffs is tough … Potential SDSU @ NDSU in semifinal would be a big rematch from regular season … tough to win in the dome though. Hate that NDSU is again and again gifted with home playoff games … Gifted isn’t the right word. Could have swapped 2,3,4 in any order and nobody would really have a strong complaint. SDSU can’t jump NDSU with the head to head and usd can’t jump sdsu with their head to head. The D2 wins were the difference I’d imagine. 2 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 24 Posted November 24 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Gifted isn’t the right word. Could have swapped 2,3,4 in any order and nobody would really have a strong complaint. SDSU can’t jump NDSU with the head to head and usd can’t jump sdsu with their head to head. The D2 wins were the difference I’d imagine. It was gifted. It terms of recency, strong arguments for USD and SDSU to be higher than NDSU. USD beat NDSU head-to-head just yesterday and SDSU is most recent back-to-back national champions. Sure, I understand those aren’t the “criteria”, but still crap that NDSU and their arrogant asshole fans are again *gifted* with more home games. Quote
Bison06 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 6 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It was gifted. It terms of recency, strong arguments for USD and SDSU to be higher than NDSU. USD beat NDSU head-to-head just yesterday and SDSU is most recent back-to-back national champions. Sure, I understand those aren’t the “criteria”, but still crap that NDSU and their arrogant asshole fans are again *gifted* with more home games. Earned not gifted. Your anti ndsu bias is clouding your judgement. Ndsu had the best strength of schedule in the country and didn’t have a D2 win. 1 1 Quote
Hammersmith Posted November 24 Posted November 24 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It was gifted. It terms of recency, strong arguments for USD and SDSU to be higher than NDSU. USD beat NDSU head-to-head just yesterday and SDSU is most recent back-to-back national champions. Sure, I understand those aren’t the “criteria”, but still crap that NDSU and their arrogant asshole fans are again *gifted* with more home games. If USD had beaten NDSU by 2 or 3 scores(especially if the win had been in Fargo), then I would completely agree with you. But it was a 1pt win in Vermillion with the wining score coming in the last 30sec. To me, that's basically a tie. Same with the SDSU win over USD, and the NDSU win over SDSU. So with those three teams all at the same level, you have to go to the rest of the resume, and NDSU has a small but real advantage there. I wouldn't have been upset with NDSU at 3 or 4, but they do have the best case for the 2. 3 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted November 24 Posted November 24 USD gets jobbed maybe committee thought they were und Quote
Stand4Anthem Posted November 24 Posted November 24 15 hours ago, Stand4Anthem said: Mt St NDSU DAVIS SDSU USD/Idaho St—-5/6 NDSU had the toughest SOS in FCS which gives them the 2–committee will try and setup non conf semis possibly? None of the 2-5 should bitch too much—all had chances but didn’t win when needed—SD schools non D1 wins will hurt them I believe and push them to 4 and 5/6 How do you separate those 3 teams? Point differential which isn’t used in conference autobid would have favored NDSU—3 teams are all deserving but the only thing separating them was NDSU SOS and more D1 wins—I think the SD schools playing D2 schools hurt them and put them down to 3-4–like I said none of them should be bitching about seeds—-win one more winnable game and you are 1 if NDSU and the yotes or SDSU would have been 2 behind Mt St—honestly thought they might move Davis up but they got that right putting 3 Dakota schools at 2-4–also think the yotes going to Bozeman possibly is/might be better than going to Brookings or Fargo in semis—still think SDSU is the best valley team but can’t argue with the order they were seeded((you can but lots of views/opinions going to all 3 of them) Quote
F'n Hawks Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Illinois State wasn’t even that good and they are the 12 seed. In the current state of the FCS it shouldn’t take much to turn things around. Quote
Kab Posted November 24 Posted November 24 If UND was 7 and 5 they wouldn’t get in with Matt Larson the chair of section committee 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 24 Posted November 24 23 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Earned not gifted. Your anti ndsu bias is clouding your judgement. Ndsu had the best strength of schedule in the country and didn’t have a D2 win. 19 minutes ago, Hammersmith said: If USD had beaten NDSU by 2 or 3 scores(especially if the win had been in Fargo), then I would completely agree with you. But it was a 1pt win in Vermillion with the wining score coming in the last 30sec. To me, that's basically a tie. Same with the SDSU win over USD, and the NDSU win over SDSU. So with those three teams all at the same level, you have to go to the rest of the resume, and NDSU has a small but real advantage there. I wouldn't have been upset with NDSU at 3 or 4, but they do have the best case for the 2. Biased? Absolutely, and that’s not changing. You know who is also biased? Matt Larsen, NDSU AD, who is on the selection committee. He’s as corrupt as the school he represents, so I’m going with that as the explanation for NDSU No. 2. Quote
FSSD Posted November 24 Posted November 24 32 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Gifted isn’t the right word. Could have swapped 2,3,4 in any order and nobody would really have a strong complaint. SDSU can’t jump NDSU with the head to head and usd can’t jump sdsu with their head to head. The D2 wins were the difference I’d imagine. But USD can't jump NDSU due to head to head? 1 Quote
Bison06 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Just now, FSSD said: But USD can't jump NDSU due to head to head? It’s a 3 way tie with the teams beating each other so how would you have separated them? Quote
Bison06 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Just now, UND-FB-FAN said: Biased? Absolutely, and that’s not changing. You know who is also biased? Matt Larsen, NDSU AD, who is on the selection committee. He’s as corrupt as the school he represents, so I’m going with that as the explanation for NDSU No. 2. Ndsu bad, I get it. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Just now, Bison06 said: Ndsu bad, I get it. For several reasons, yes. Quote
wheelsup Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Ndsu had a case for the #2.. but it was an absolute gift.. there was little to no separation between NDSU, SDSU and USD.. purely based on their head to head and recency I would give it to USD. All three head to head games were super close and the strength of schedules were also very comparable.. I just happen to believe beating NDSU and losing to SDSU in overtime is better than either of the other twos case.. they both got extra credit for more name recognition Quote
Bison06 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Just now, wheelsup said: Ndsu had a case for the #2.. but it was an absolute gift.. there was little to no separation between NDSU, SDSU and USD.. purely based on their head to head and recency I would give it to USD. All three head to head games were super close and the strength of schedules were also very comparable.. I just happen to believe beating NDSU and losing to SDSU in overtime is better than either of the other twos case.. they both got extra credit for more name recognition D2 wins don’t count, so ndsu has one more DI win. This isn’t a conspiracy 2 1 Quote
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