UND @ Murray State

[UND08]

Good lord why are we talking about Muss today???  Do I even want to know??  He's out of sight out of mind, and should always be.

I didn't catch much of the game yesterday...saw we won, offense played well, defense, not so much.

Could really use a complete, three phase effort next week against USD.  If we get it we'll be cooking with gas...if not..."Selection Sunday" will be a high blood pressure event...

[Kab]

Let’s beat the coyotes and pack the Al the following week 

[wheelsup]

seems like we should focus on the positives at least a little bit at this point

• Offense basically scored at will.  IF you want to complain a little bit.. Tommy missed a couple of deep throws to some pretty wide open receivers.  That said he also threw for 279 yds, 5 TD's and a couple nice little scrambles.
• Isaiah Smith was a complete dog.. great running effort.. Overall OL was very solid.
• CJ Elrichs looked good kicking XP's and FG's.. Need to keep seeing this.  Im guessing either the USD or the ISU game will come down to a couple FG's.
• Continued Improvement of Malachi McNeal

The Bad

• Defense Struggled.. obviously.. Clearly missed McNaboe.. our D-line depth is still lacking.
• Losing CJ is a self-inflicted idiotic coaching mistake... particularly in this game.  You are already down McNaboe.. why in the world are we throwing one of our most important Defensive players out there on Returns unless he is doing anything other than fair catches.  Seems like we have a bunch of guys that could fill that role.. Eliodor.. Tai.. Siedle.. Skokna..

The unexplainable..

• UND timeout to give Murray ST a little extra time at the end of the 2nd quarter.. Between that and some terrible home clock running.  Should have been 24-3 at halftime.  Just dumb
• Letting CJ return kicks.. dumb.. unexplainable.. bizarre. 
• Murray ST's best offense in the 2nd half was UND penalties.. PI and holding.. some of them were really homer calls.. some were prob deserved.  McNaboe and Siegel would have made a difference.

[MoSiouxFan]

Skokna got hurt and didn't play the second half.  Didn't hear Pedigo's name called yesterday.  Assuming he's out injured, too?

[Dustin]

11 minutes ago, MoSiouxFan said:

Skokna got hurt and didn't play the second half.  Didn't hear Pedigo's name called yesterday.  Assuming he's out injured, too?

What about Quincy Vaughan?  Did he play at all?  I thought there was a 3rd and short they might bring him out for, but they didn't.  Also don't recall him catching a pass.

[wheelsup]

13 minutes ago, MoSiouxFan said:

Skokna got hurt and didn't play the second half.  Didn't hear Pedigo's name called yesterday.  Assuming he's out injured, too?

Im pretty sure Pedigo played

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, Dustin said:

What about Quincy Vaughan?  Did he play at all?  I thought there was a 3rd and short they might bring him out for, but they didn't.  Also don't recall him catching a pass.

the tight end doesn't exist and und.....rumors and hints and teases...but noope.

[shep]

15 minutes ago, MoSiouxFan said:

Skokna got hurt and didn't play the second half.  Didn't hear Pedigo's name called yesterday.  Assuming he's out injured, too?

Pettigo played alot if not the whole game.

[shep]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

the tight end doesn't exist and und.....rumors and hints and teases...but noope.

Umm... a TE had a TD yesterday.

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, shep said:

Umm... a TE had a TD yesterday.

christmas miracles do happen.

[Teeder11]

9 minutes ago, shep said:

Umm... a TE had a TD yesterday.

And the game winner in OT the game before. Lightning strikes twice. 

[shep]

1 minute ago, Teeder11 said:

And the game winner in OT the game before. Lightning strikes twice. 

And not just at Christmas

[Sioux94]

When are we going to stop expecting huge TE production? Our TE's probably have similar stats to most FCS teams, although I haven't checked and could be wrong. I think because SDSU has some top end TE's with huge production and are in the NFL we all think huge TE production will solve all of our problems. It's just not a huge part of our offense. But I'm sure it will give people something to complain about for several years to come. 

[gfhockey]

Te got a touchdown yesterday

[Teeder11]

23 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

When are we going to stop expecting huge TE production? Our TE's probably have similar stats to most FCS teams, although I haven't checked and could be wrong. I think because SDSU has some top end TE's with huge production and are in the NFL we all think huge TE production will solve all of our problems. It's just not a huge part of our offense. But I'm sure it will give people something to complain about for several years to come. 

Exactly. We have great blocking tight ends. That is a tight end job, too.  Not just pass catching. 

[MoSiouxFan]

4 hours ago, shep said:

Pettigo played alot if not the whole game.

Thanks.  That's good news.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Offense is fine. Tight end talk is moot. Tight end leak play in redzone was thing of beauty. Quincy been doing well at that spot. Give Danny and Shawn credit - offense and tight ends are doing well. 
 

defense is where the crap keeps happening. Those players and coaches need to step up 

[Dustin]

The MVFC is so misguided they selected our noodle arm quarterback offensive player of the week.

[siouxfan512]

Not much to say about this game. If the ISU-blue game felt like a loss, this wasn't much better. Looked like we were going to blow them out and then couldn't do a damn thing on D. I'll give them some credit, their QB played pretty darn well and I know we are missing some guys, but yikes. Also, the league needs to serious look at the officiating after all of those late PI calls, what a joke!

Offense certainly seemed fine, especially for missing some guys; they did what they were supposed to do. 

-Need defense to figure out how to play like they did against NDSU

-Would love to see Z back and our O line clicking. Control the clock and get the run game goin.

-I feel like we need a big game from Eliodor being back in the Dakota Dome.

Its been a rough few weeks, but from a record standpoint we are still on track. This is a big one! Win this and we are in a really solid position! Lose and it is more of the same. 

[gfhockey]

13 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Not much to say about this game. If the ISU-blue game felt like a loss, this wasn't much better. Looked like we were going to blow them out and then couldn't do a damn thing on D. I'll give them some credit, their QB played pretty darn well and I know we are missing some guys, but yikes. Also, the league needs to serious look at the officiating after all of those late PI calls, what a joke!

Offense certainly seemed fine, especially for missing some guys; they did what they were supposed to do. 

-Need defense to figure out how to play like they did against NDSU

-Would love to see Z back and our O line clicking. Control the clock and get the run game goin.

-I feel like we need a big game from Eliodor being back in the Dakota Dome.

Its been a rough few weeks, but from a record standpoint we are still on track. This is a big one! Win this and we are in a really solid position! Lose and it is more of the same. 

I felt better after this game vs isu 

[wheelsup]

17 minutes ago, Dustin said:

The MVFC is so misguided they selected our noodle arm quarterback offensive player of the week.

Hopefully his last 6 quarters and OT have built his and the rest of the offense confidence for a very strong finish to the season.

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, Dustin said:

The MVFC is so misguided they selected our noodle arm quarterback offensive player of the week.

Kudos to him, his teammates and coaches. Offense has been solid these past 2 weeks. 
 

defense … not so much. 

[jdub27]

On 11/5/2023 at 7:37 AM, UND-FB-FAN said:

They hit a ceiling, years ago. Your comments make me think you’re either biased and/or misinformed, because your comments are generalized and almost non-factual.

It’s been 10 years. How far has the team truly come? Anyone actually watching this program has seen 5-7 in 2014 turn into perennial 7-4 and no playoff wins. They have not made substantial progress despite what some try to portray. 

Here are some unbiased rankings (Massey) to show how things have progressed the last 15 years:

2008       28
2009       40
2010       48
2011       36
2012       35
2013       68
2014       64
2015       32
2016       21
2017       43
2018       27
2019       21
2020       6*
2021       14
2022       14
2023       12

[siouxfan512]

2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

I felt better after this game vs isu 

Agreed and Murray does have potential with some players, but it was still pretty disappointing to watch them cut through our D like they did. I never though they were going to steal this game like ISU could have, but we definitely have to clean things up.

[UND1983]

From 360 game review 

The 4th and 24 pass interference penalty was a killer for the UND defense. It was 31-10 and a stop there forces a field goal or punt. Instead, the Racers scored on the next play. Not sure what the safeties were doing and why. They were at 10 yards and not backing up, almost coming forward to catch the receiver. It’s 4th and 24. I am sure they were playing the call from the staff but what reasoning has us playing that close on 4th and 24 to where the guy can put one move on you and blow by? Plus, the linebackers weren’t trailing the slot WR/TE either. UND only rushed three (one spy) but didn’t seem to have any brackets going on at all. So essentially we were playing a loose man coverage with no underneath help pushing the receiver up-field. Odd to say the least. Even if we give them 23 yards we get the ball back.