SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: This is sounding less likely. UMKC isn't committing to improving their BB facilities. omaha>umkc?????? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i looked at CC's conference...a d3 league based 99% in Texas....do they not have the money or want to go d1 or are they happy where they are? with this new arena does it open itself up to a move up? CC is happy where they're at. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: CC is happy where they're at. they already have 2 d1 sports....why not make the move? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: they already have 2 d1 sports....why not make the move? < see previous response > 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Institution Location Founded Type Enrollment U.S. News Ranking[1] Endowment[2] Nickname Colors Joined Austin College Sherman, Texas 1849 Private/Presbyterian 1,291 82 (National: Lib. Arts) $134,746,000 Kangaroos 2006 Centenary College of Louisiana Shreveport, Louisiana 1825 Private/United Methodist 500 167 (National: Lib. Arts) $122,482,000[3] Gentlemen (men's) Ladies (women's) 2012 Colorado College Colorado Springs, Colorado 1874 Private 2,011 31 (National: Lib. Arts) $720,085,000 Tigers 2006 University of Dallas Irving, Texas 1956 Private/Roman Catholic 3,255 13 (Regional: West) $45,630,000 Crusaders 2011 University of St. Thomas Houston, Texas 1947 Private/Roman Catholic 1,626 26 (Regional University: West) $78,360,000 Celts 2019 Schreiner University Kerrville, Texas 1923 Private/Presbyterian 1145 8 (Regional College: West) $62,946,000 Mountaineers 2013 Southwestern University Georgetown, Texas 1840 Private/United Methodist 1,536[4] 65 (National: Lib. Arts) $255,955,000 Pirates 1994 Texas Lutheran University Seguin, Texas 1891 Private/Lutheran 1,400 3 (Regional College: West) $89,986,000 Bulldogs 2013 Trinity University San Antonio, Texas 1869 Private 2,487 1 (Regional University: West) $1,185,370,000 Tigers 1989 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 happy with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: omaha>umkc?????? Omaha? That's more nostalgia than reality. MVC BB used to have the Omaha market with Creighton (now in BEast). The MVC is going after either schools that'll help with NCAA BB tourney payouts or growing metropolitans (to leach students from). Frankly, UNO checks neither box. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: Omaha? That's more nostalgia than reality. MVC BB used to have the Omaha market with Creighton (now in BEast). The MVC is going after either schools that'll help with NCAA BB tourney payouts or growing metropolitans (to leach students from). Frankly, UNO checks neither box. https://www.3newsnow.com/omahasportsinsider/osi-college/osi-uno/osi-uno-mens-basketball/uno-meeting-with-missouri-valley-conference-officials they have had convos...it isn't out the realm of possibility.... that's the problem with the current setup of the summit...everyone wants to leave...fenton needs to lock it up Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 CC is happy with DI hockey and living the niche DIII life in Colorado. Their new hockey arena (3600) would hold their student body (2000) ... nearly twice over. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: CC is happy with DI hockey and living the niche DIII life in Colorado. Their new hockey arena (3600) would hold their student body (2000) ... nearly twice over. why not drop their two d1 programs to d3 and just be done with it...they haven't been relevant in hockey for quite a while and i don't see that changing and their soccer team doesn't look to powerful either? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Because they are comfortably positioned into their niche. 1 Quote
zonadub Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: https://www.3newsnow.com/omahasportsinsider/osi-college/osi-uno/osi-uno-mens-basketball/uno-meeting-with-missouri-valley-conference-officials they have had convos...it isn't out the realm of possibility.... that's the problem with the current setup of the summit...everyone wants to leave...fenton needs to lock it up This is an article from 2017 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 3:51 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: Here's my guess on the new Fenton NCC 2.1 (merging of Summit, NCHC, and MVFC) UND - 3 (FB, Oly, Hockey) NDSU - 2 (FB and Oly) USD - 2 (FB and Oly) SDSU - 2 (FB and Oly) Omaha - 2 (Oly and Hockey) Denver - 2 (Oly and Hockey) Saint Thomas - 3 (FB, Oly, Hockey) Western Illinois -2 (FB and Oly) Saint Cloud - 2 (Oly and Hockey) Minnesota State - 3 (FB, Oly, and Hockey) Duluth - 2 or 3 (FB?, Oly, and Hockey) Colorado College - 1 or 2 (Oly? and Hockey) 8 for Football 8 for Hockey 12 for Olympic +poach UNI and sub for CC but with the new arena can/would CC go D1? No more D2’s. The Summit needs to poach some MVC teams and sponsor all sports including football. NSIC teams should not be in the conversation. CC uh hell no! 2 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: This is sounding less likely. UMKC isn't committing to improving their BB facilities. Why in the world would the MVC want UMKC. If they are that desperate then the summit should easily be able to sponsor football and steal UNI and Mo St. Fenton needs to position the conference to move to FBS if that becomes necessary 1 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: omaha>umkc?????? Fenton was hired to keep the teams like Omaha in the Summit. Oral Roberts would be a good add for the desperate MVC. Maybe UNO should add football back once the Summit takes over the MVFC 1 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, zonadub said: This is an article from 2017 yeah.... Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: No more D2’s. The Summit needs to poach some MVC teams and sponsor all sports including football. NSIC teams should not be in the conversation. CC uh hell no! agreed.....but a school like minnesota state IF they went D1 imo would be a better get than UNI in no time....plus they have hockey already uni and missouri state would be nice to have over most d2 move ups agreed. but if they don't want to jump let's get who we can and keep em oral bob, umkc, omaha and other could/would leave at any minute Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 i'm all for adding minnesota state to the current nchc and summit tho.... 2 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i'm all for adding minnesota state to the current nchc and summit tho.... What would they do with FB? Kato wouldn't just drop football to make everything else work. Plus they have an 60 year old problem with Blakeslee that doesn't have plans to be replaced anytime soon. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i'm all for adding minnesota state to the current nchc and summit tho.... Mankato is not ready, shouldn’t even be brought into the conversation . Auggie has shown more interest in D1 and they are an even bigger long shot Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: What would they do with FB? Kato wouldn't just drop football to make everything else work. Plus they have an 60 year old problem with Blakeslee that doesn't have plans to be replaced anytime soon. how much money could they raise if they were getting an nchc and summit (or combined) league invites? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Mankato is not ready, shouldn’t even be brought into the conversation . Auggie has shown more interest in D1 and they are an even bigger long shot probably true but the summit doesn't need 3 sodak schools.... Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 somehow this stadium was good enough to get a bsc invite a decade ago or so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Field Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 and this is their bball arena https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Colorado_Arena compared to msu's arena https://msumavericks.com/sports/2009/9/8/GEN_0908091827.aspx Quote
nodak651 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: and this is their bball arena https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Colorado_Arena compared to msu's arena https://msumavericks.com/sports/2009/9/8/GEN_0908091827.aspx Is that supposed to help your argument here? I like Mankato for many reasons but I think Northern Colorado to the Big Sky serves as a great example - only send an invite if there is a guarantee of some sort that facilities will be improved, which to me means that shovels should pretty much be in the ground. I would want UNI first, as they wouldn't dilute recruitment and taking a program like that from the mvc would be huge for the imaging and league perception. Dakotas, St. Thomas, Mankato, UNO, Denver would be a great cor of 8. 2 Quote
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