Herd Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Sioux83, the brokered deal is on the table. Do I have your agreement? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out)
darell1976 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Sioux83, the brokered deal is on the table. Do I have your agreement? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out) 2017 would have @Utah, @USD, @ NDSU. won't work, 2018 UND will have 5 home games so a road game at NDSU would work.
Hambone Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 2017 would have @Utah, @USD, @ NDSU. won't work, 2018 UND will have 5 home games so a road game at NDSU would work. Read it again Darell - he's saying 2017 is in Grand Forks.
Herd Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 2017 would have @Utah, @USD, @ NDSU. won't work, 2018 UND will have 5 home games so a road game at NDSU would work. '83 seems to have stepped away from the negotiating table. I guess it's you Darrell. By the way, the game is in Grand Forks in 2017, so that makes it a home game for you. Darrell, the brokered deal is on the table. Do I have your agreement? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out)
jdub27 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 '83 seems to have stepped away from the negotiating table. I guess it's you Darrell. By the way, the game is in Grand Forks in 2017, so that makes it a home game for you. Darrell, the brokered deal is on the table. Do I have your agreement? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out) I'm not sure what your point is on this? Faison thought he had an agreement on a home/home. Then he had an offer for a game in Fargo, but apparently that guarantee has been lowered significantly to well below market (and your number is still lower than the initial numbers). My understanding is that Faison will accept a home/home. I hope he holds to that. Why set a precedent that NDSU can get a 2 for 1 with a little bit of cash thrown in, you don't think that GT or whoever tries to make that the new standard next time there is a negotiation? I also see you glossed over on the facts pointed out on your myth of Faison running to the media.
Herd Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I'm not sure what your point is on this? Faison thought he had an agreement on a home/home. Then he had an offer for a game in Fargo, but apparently that guarantee has been lowered significantly to well below market (and your number is still lower than the initial numbers). My understanding is that Faison will accept a home/home. I hope he holds to that. Why set a precedent that NDSU can get a 2 for 1 with a little bit of cash thrown in, you don't think that GT or whoever tries to make that the new standard next time there is a negotiation? I also see you failed to acknowledge the facts pointed out on your myth of Faison running to the media. Good thing Darrell is negotiating, as he is doing so in good faith, unlike yourself. If you could reserve your input until Darrell has weighed in, as to not disrupt the negotiation, eveyone would appreciate it.
jdub27 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Good thing Darrell is negotiating, as he is doing so in good faith, unlike yourself. If you could reserve your input until Darrell has weighed in, as to not disrupt the negotiation, eveyone would appreciate it. Oh the irony....
Herd Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Oh the irony.... If your not part of the solution Jdub, you are part of the problem. We're at a tenuous point in the negotiation, I hope you understand.
UNDColorado Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Go AWAY SAM HUM..... I was actually thinking this is johnboy because earlier this alias used 'el forko grande" and johnboy is the only person I have seen use that term.
Herd Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 There it is Darrell, do we have an agreement in principle so we can pass this along to the lawyers? If you want, I'll throw in some club level seats for you, BF and your significant others for the Fargo games. How's that sound. Can we get this done? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out)
jdub27 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, buyout is $150 plus transportation for 2017 and has no bearing on 2019 game Seems doable.
UNDColorado Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 There it is Darrell, do we have an agreement in principle so we can pass this along to the lawyers? If you want, I'll throw in some club level seats for you, BF and your significant others for the Fargo games. How's that sound. Can we get this done? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out) Make it $170k and we can take care of transportation Honestly in principle I am not against a deal like this. Not ideal but this debate is wearing me down so I wouldn't be disappointed. I am also for the huge buyout. If anything is signed no backing out.
Teeder11 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Seems doable. Maybe we should wait 20 months or so to see if the business climate changes. Standard practice in some parts. 1
Popular Post schlossman Posted May 22, 2014 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2014 You guys can e-mail me if you have questions about how this stuff works. Since a lot of wrong assumptions are being made, here you go: I submitted the original open record request for e-mails a month or two ago. I received quite a few pages of e-mails dating back three years. The e-mails showed that the schools were not close to agreeing on a contract. If there were signs that they were close, we would have immediately run a story on it. Instead, we decided to do a broader, in-detail piece (a Sunday enterprise, as we call it) after the spring sports season when we start to lack local copy. We did not feel that any news organization was poking around in that direction. If anybody had done the same request in the last three years, the 2011 e-mails showing how close the schools were to playing would have been reported. However, on May 13th, the SiouxFootballInsider Twitter account posted something about "interesting info" involving the UND-NDSU football game scheduling. That Twitter account/blog is followed by many other media people, and we knew that tweet would propel them to start digging into info. We did not want to get beat on a story that we had, so that night, we posted a story of the e-mails we had. It was not close to the piece we had envisioned doing in the early summer, but we felt we would get beat if we waited around. At the same time, knowing that TV stations would very likely be sending in their own open-record requests to get the info that we had, we decided to submit a second request to make sure there was nothing new that they would get and we would miss (in other words, anything since our initial request). About a week later, I received that request from the general counsel of the North Dakota University System (who also sent me the first request). It had two more e-mails in it. I received the request at about noon. Assuming other news outlets were getting the same request, and that there was interesting info in it, I quickly filed a story showing the updates and put it online. So, that's how it happened. It was not the piece we had hoped to do. Our stories still had holes in them (What happened in 2011? The two had seemingly agreed to two dates and were going out to lunch in Fargo. How did it not get done? We also would have liked to ask Faison what type of pay day would it take for UND to view the NDSU game as its guarantee game for the year). A comprehensive piece would have been much better. But once we figured others were on the trail, we had to change our plans. No, I do not have Brian Faison's office bugged. No, he did not tell me, "Hey, open record request me, please!" (It would be great for us if he did inform us of his e-mails -- maybe it wouldn't have taken us three years to dig them up -- but unfortunately he does not). No, I did not find the e-mails and tell my editors, "Hey, I have a feeling someone is going to wear an absurd shirt to Springfest, so I think it's best if we publish it on Day 2 of Springfest stories, then throw it on the bottom of Page D1 to try to distract everyone from our 1A stories. What do you say, guys?!" I know, I know, it's hard to believe that it didn't actually play out that way. 17
jdub27 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Make it $170k and we can take care of transportation Honestly in principle I am not against a deal like this. Not ideal but this debate is wearing me down so I wouldn't be disappointed. I am also for the huge buyout. If anything is signed no backing out. Unfortunately, its starting to look like that isn't a coincidence.
UND1983 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I'll give you $150k (and pick up your travel cost, ha, ha, rent you a school bus), and a home/home. Take it or leave it. Do we have a deal in principle Sioux83? Where do I sign?!?
petey23 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Put me in the "Hope Bubba can pull UND out of the crater that Mussman left behind and get UND back to being a legitimate playoff team and let the NCAA make the game" camp. As far as emails go, Faison's next email to Taylor should be along the lines of Gene, You have the contracts you asked for and if you suddenly are overcome with a case of integrity and want to sign them we will honor them. As to your other offers and posturing.....eat a dick. Regards Brian 2
DI IN FARGO Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Maybe we should wait 20 months or so to see if the business climate changes. Standard practice in some parts. Or just sit on it and then hold a press conference saying you can't play the game.
darell1976 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 '83 seems to have stepped away from the negotiating table. I guess it's you Darrell. By the way, the game is in Grand Forks in 2017, so that makes it a home game for you. Darrell, the brokered deal is on the table. Do I have your agreement? $150 and transporation for a Guarantee in 2015. Home/Home in 2017(gFU) / 2019 (Fargo). The buyout is $500 in 2019, set your price for 2017. (make it a million, knock yourself out) 2015 Fargo 2017 GF (h/h) 2019 Fargo (h/h) Sounds like a deal to me.
Teeder11 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Or just sit on it and then hold a press conference saying you can't play the game. Yeah, you're right. I could see GT pulling something like that. Or he could just summon his media lap-dog buddies, Caillou and Izzo; they would stumble all over themselves with tweets and instaposts to get the word out for him as soon as he flashes the "Stream Yellow" bat signal. 2
Goon Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Yeah, you're right. I could see GT pulling something like that. Or he could just summon his media lap-dog buddies, Caillou and Izzo; they would stumble all over themselves with tweets and instaposts to get the word out for him as soon as he flashes the "Stream Yellow" bat signal. From reading some of the crap those two put on Twitter regarding Bison Football, your comment seems pretty accurate.
jdub27 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 2015 Fargo 2017 GF (h/h) 2019 Fargo (h/h) Sounds like a deal to me. You negotiating would lock UND into 5 home games for 2015. That by itself would be tolerable, but you did it while not banking a home game for future years and at a below market rate. Not a chance. 1
darell1976 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 You negotiating would lock UND into 5 home games for 2015. That by itself would be tolerable, but you did it while not banking a home game for future years and at a below market rate. Not a chance. By the time GT agrees to this, Sioux Volley's theory will kick in and the Dakota 4, and the Montana's will be part of the Big Sky division of the Sun Belt.
bison73 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Date Opponent Location Results Media Sat, Sep 07 No. 11 University of Minnesota Duluth * Duluth, Minn. 7 - 32 (L) STATS Sat, Sep 14 Northern State University * Sioux Falls, S.D. 45 - 37 (W) STATS Sat, Sep 21 University of Mary * Bismarck, N.D. 10 - 17 (L) STATS Sat, Sep 28 University of Minnesota, Crookston * Sioux Falls, S.D. 52 - 7 (W) STATS NOTES 55 - 48 (W) STATS NOTES Sat, Oct 12 Winona State University * Sioux Falls, S.D. 40 - 45 (L) STATS NOTES Sat, Oct 19 Concordia University-St. Paul * St. Paul, Minn. 47 - 7 (W) STATS NOTES Sat, Oct 26 Augustana College * Sioux Falls, S.D. 27 - 10 (W) STATS NOTES Sat, Nov 02 Upper Iowa University * Fayette, Iowa 28 - 30 (L) STATS NOTES Sat, Nov 09 No. 1 Minnesota State University * Sioux Falls, S.D. 17 - 52 (L) STATS NOTES Sat, Nov 16 Wayne State College * Wayne, Neb. 35 - 10 (W) STATS NOTES Yep that's a fastrack to D1-A They lost to Upper Iowa and Winona State not to mention Sioux falls??? Oh my!
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