Head Coach Preference Poll #3 UND Football

[jdub27]

Is it??? One was charged with child porn...real or perceived. One was let go over a player's sexual assault case...real or perceived.

And that's why Hoffner is out of coaching altogether right now and Pflu got a job and was at Weber last year.

"I don't care if it is real or only perceived"...ring a bell???

If you think that is the only reason Pflugard was let go, then your Griz buddies aren't filling you in. The NCAA found enough issues to suspend him from coaching at game while employed at Weber St, forced Montana to forfeit four scholarships for three years and vacate five wins. And none of that was related to the Johnson case or other incidents with his players. I think Pflu seems like a very good coach. I think his past will prevent him from getting the job.

Here's a big difference between comparing him and Hoffner: I don't think anyone was suggesting that Hoffner be named head coach. Pretty sure people were saying that he deserved to be looked at for a coordinator position or something.

[PhillySioux]

This is no comment on Bubba's football acumen.

But, has anyone ever watched him in front of a microphone and a group? He makes Mussman look charismatic.

[Oxbow6]

If you think that is the only reason Pflugard was let go, then your Griz buddies aren't filling you in. The NCAA found enough issues to suspend him from coaching at game while employed at Weber St, forced Montana to forfeit four scholarships for three years and vacate five wins. And none of that was related to the Johnson case or other incidents with his players. I think Pflu seems like a very good coach. I think his past will prevent him from getting the job.

Not disagreeing with anything above but don't be naive as to why he was let go at Montana.

[82SiouxGuy]

If you think that is the only reason Pflugard was let go, then your Griz buddies aren't filling you in. The NCAA found enough issues to suspend him from coaching at game while employed at Weber St, forced Montana to forfeit four scholarships for three years and vacate five wins. And none of that was related to the Johnson case or other incidents with his players. I think Pflu seems like a very good coach. I think his past will prevent him from getting the job.

Here's a big difference between comparing him and Hoffner: I don't think anyone was suggesting that Hoffner be named head coach. Pretty sure people were saying that he deserved to be looked at for a coordinator position or something.

http://www.kpax.com/news/ncaa-announces-penalties-against-um-football-program/

http://www.kpax.com/news/ncaa-takes-away-griz-football-big-sky-championship/

[Shawn-O]

http://www.kpax.com/...otball-program/

http://www.kpax.com/...y-championship/

All the bail bond stuff...nothing new here.

[Oxbow6]

http://www.kpax.com/...otball-program/

http://www.kpax.com/...y-championship/

So does this exclude him from being a "legit" candidate in your eyes?

[jdub27]

All the bail bond stuff...nothing new here.

Definitely not all under Pflugard's watch, but the NCAA did find other items as well per ESPN.

The NCAA also found that three couples who were university boosters provided meals for at least eight athletes on more than 100 occasions from 2004 through 2012; one couple provided a student-athlete with free storage space for a month along with transportation, clothing and a small cash loan.

[82SiouxGuy]

So does this exclude him from being a "legit" candidate in your eyes?

Doesn't stop him from being a legit candidate. May keep him from actually getting the job. It depends on Faison's research and his determination about how responsible Mr. Pflugard was for the issues. It will also depend on how he interviews compared to others. I think that there are about 1/2 dozen candidates that could get in-person interviews based on the actual contents of their application and how they interview on the telephone. And there is still the possibility of someone that has not officially applied as of right now. But as far as Pflugard, there are definite red flags that will need to be examined before he has a chance of being hired.

[BobIwabuchiFan]

"What do you guys count when trying to sleep? I count touchdowns we'll score at UND, so I end up having to stay up all night" -- Chris McComas tweet this morning. Love this guy!

At first I thought this was making a joke of the program, but I'm coming around to this guy's enthusiasm and publicity he is bringing...Maybe if Faison takes a month more to get a coach this guy will be on Leno helping sell the position nationally - he's turning out to be a 'Siouxper' Fan!

[82SiouxGuy]

All the bail bond stuff...nothing new here.

Nothing new. But it shows that there was more than just the rape accusation. And it shows a history of NCAA related issues. With the history of UND and the NCAA in the last decade it could be important to be very careful with anyone that has been in trouble with the NCAA.

[Oxbow6]

Doesn't stop him from being a legit candidate. May keep him from actually getting the job. It depends on Faison's research and his determination about how responsible Mr. Pflugard was for the issues. It will also depend on how he interviews compared to others. I think that there are about 1/2 dozen candidates that could get in-person interviews based on the actual contents of their application and how they interview on the telephone. And there is still the possibility of someone that has not officially applied as of right now. But as far as Pflugard, there are definite red flags that will need to be examined before he has a chance of being hired.

No argument here.

[Shawn-O]

Nothing new. But it shows that there was more than just the rape accusation. And it shows a history of NCAA related issues. With the history of UND and the NCAA in the last decade it could be important to be very careful with anyone that has been in trouble with the NCAA.

Very fair point. Agree with you above...Faison will gather the info and make the judgement call...

[Shawn-O]

At first I thought this was making a joke of the program, but I'm coming around to this guy's enthusiasm and publicity he is bringing...Maybe if Faison takes a month more to get a coach this guy will be on Leno helping sell the position nationally - he's turning out to be a 'Siouxper' Fan!

Schlossman article > Haggerty Olive Garden review by end of day?

[CMSioux]

Based on recent NCAA decisions (host sites) it seems we will never overcome their politics - plus it's obvious they pick and choose what to enforce and who to punish. Punish the guy from Montana, let the SEC coaches do what they want whenever they want. If you win they can't keep you out of the playoffs but they can make the decision on where you will play. I trust Faison will make the choice based on who the best candidate is and that may mean not having ties to UND.

[Siouxphan27]

I wonder if we are all over thinking this, as we're all anxious to find out. If Faison would stop by siouxsports.com and give us an inside scoop, I think we could all agree not to tell anyone, right?

[zonadub]

Based on the choices supplied, my vote would go to Pflugrad. However, if the coach comes from this list, I think the only possible candidate under consideration by Faison would be deBoer, for reasons cited by jdub and SiouxGuy. When you have a number of very good candidates (which UND does), it does not take much to be eliminated. Plus, as I posted before, Pflugrad's refusal to dismiss Johnson from the Griz football team when he was told may be a red flag of not following orders by an AD like Faison.

"Other" is my vote for most likely to be the next HC of UND.

[darell1976]

If Pflugard gets hired the media (Dom Izzo) would bring up his incident at Montana most likely all the time especially if UND has a losing season. He would think this would be a distraction and come up with other crap to slam the coach's past.

[CMSioux]

Who cares what Isso posts - he's paid to be a FU lacky. If Pflugard were chosen comes in and runs a straight up program (with wins) his past becomes ancient history. I agree the new coach won't be chosen by the media or the fans - I'm an old guy and remember that for one example Gino was not the first pick of the media (ie: Grand Forks Herald) but that worked out.

[UNDBIZ]

Definitely not all under Pflugard's watch, but the NCAA did find other items as well per ESPN.

What all those articles fail to mention is those "boosters" were parents of members of the team. I know some of the local UND parents have their kid(s) and his/her friends (teammates) over for meals too. There's nothing unusual about it. I wasn't a college athlete and neither were most of my friends, but for some reason my parents (UND boosters) fed us on occasion anyway. The fact that it is considered an infraction is ridiculous.

[82SiouxGuy]

What all those articles fail to mention is those "boosters" were parents of members of the team. I know some of the local UND parents have their kid(s) and his/her friends (teammates) over for meals too. There's nothing unusual about it. I wasn't a college athlete and neither were most of my friends, but for some reason my parents (UND boosters) fed us on occasion anyway. The fact that it is considered an infraction is ridiculous.

Whether it's ridiculous or not doesn't matter, it is still an infraction. And that still doesn't cover the bail payment and free legal services. The players and coaches are all informed about what is an infraction and what is not an infraction.

[Woden]

Whether it's ridiculous or not doesn't matter, it is still an infraction. And that still doesn't cover the bail payment and free legal services. The players and coaches are all informed about what is an infraction and what is not an infraction.

You are oblivious to reality. Both NDSU and UND would be found in violation of this as well.

[UNDBIZ]

Whether it's ridiculous or not doesn't matter, it is still an infraction. And that still doesn't cover the bail payment and free legal services. The players and coaches are all informed about what is an infraction and what is not an infraction.

It's an infraction that is never monitored, happens everywhere, and was only pointed out in this case because the ncaa investigators spent a lot of time and money on Montana and couldn't come up with much to show for it. The bail payments were also paid by a parent of a local member of the team who was repaid by the arrested players' parents. It's not in any way uncommon for a local team member's parent to become the team mom and it would've been pretty difficult for the arrested players' parents to bail them out when they didn't live there. The ncaa investigators found that the athletic director was aware of the free legal services but Pflugrad wasn't.

Plenty of sh*t has been thrown at Pflugrad, but IMO none of it sticks.

[82SiouxGuy]

It's an infraction that is never monitored, happens everywhere, and was only pointed out in this case because the ncaa investigators spent a lot of time and money on Montana and couldn't come up with much to show for it. The bail payments were also paid by a parent of a local member of the team who was repaid by the arrested players' parents. It's not in any way uncommon for a local team member's parent to become the team mom and it would've been pretty difficult for the arrested players' parents to bail them out when they didn't live there. The ncaa investigators found that the athletic director was aware of the free legal services but Pflugrad wasn't.

Plenty of sh*t has been thrown at Pflugrad, but IMO none of it sticks.

It stuck enough that he was sanctioned in his new position at Weber. He is on the NCAA radar and that will factor into whether he gets the UND job or not.

[mksioux]

As mentioned...Bohl plus baggage equals multiple NCs. Also Hoffner's name was thrown around and he applied...talk about baggage!

Is it??? One was charged with child porn...real or perceived. One was let go over a player's sexual assault case...real or perceived.

And that's why Hoffner is out of coaching altogether right now and Pflu got a job and was at Weber last year.

"I don't care if it is real or only perceived"...ring a bell???

I suggest you go read the court order dismissing the charges before perpetuating the perception that Hoffner has "baggage." I refuse to say the guy has "baggage" when he was falsely accused of one of the most heinous crimes imaginable that ruined his life. Even if there is a perception of "baggage" amongst the uninformed simply because he was accused, I don't think we should play into it. The bottom line is that he's not the most qualified from a football standpoint to be named head coach, but I'd have no problem with him as an offensive coordinator if the head coach so chose.

[82SiouxGuy]

You are oblivious to reality. Both NDSU and UND would be found in violation of this as well.

It is very possible that they could be. Pflugard and Montana were found in violation. Major difference. That is the reality. Pflugard has been punished by the NCAA and that will be an issue he has to overcome if he is going to get the job. I'm sure that he realizes it.