jdub27 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 When your team sucks tout your league. Might be above your reading comprehension but it was a fan of FU who was trying to tout the MVFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 both the sky and the valley are basically cupcake leagues compared to the socon or caa if you ignore NDSU (and montana) You obviously don't follow FCS football all that closely, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 When your team sucks tout your league. You must not troll here enough, it was a FU fan you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg2009 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 You realize the SoCon is complete dogsh*t now, right? And the CAA has been down for 2-3 years now, bunch of pretty good programs but no Top 5 teams. If you want to explain your post I would like to know what you meant, maybe I missed the point? the point was that every league looks like crap when you take out its best team. the MVFC looks as crappy without ndsu as the big sky does without montana or ewu ODU was a top 5 team and semi finalist last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg2009 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 You obviously don't follow FCS football all that closely, huh? yes the socon is going to start looking alot worse after this year. Probably the 5th of even 6th best conference if scholarships lift the level of play of the patriot. But we were talking about past playoff records, weren't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just finished watching the game and I am all for Bartels being the starter. Looked good and I'm sure can be just as good as Mollberg has the potential to be if not better. Also anyone notice our lineman throw up on our third TD drive? I'm sure it happens quite a bit but that's the first time I have seen it. I agree. Really liked his decisions. However, Joe admittedly looks far worse because we've seen so much more of his performances on film. I'd like to see Bartels start from here out and get a better sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I agree. Really liked his decisions. However, Joe admittedly looks far worse because we've seen so much more of his performances on film. I'd like to see Bartels start from here out and get a better sample size. I'd say the switches to the O-line helped out too, seemed liked there was a little more time in the pocket, though there was still too much pressure. I don't think either guy has come close to separating himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It isn't fair to judge either of these guys this year. Both have made similar mistakes. Bartels moved the team last week but still threw 2 ints and should have had a 3rd in the 1st half when he threw to 2 defenders who fought over it and neither got it. He also fumbled again but it bounced back up into his hands. He seemed to get to his reads quicker when he had time. They have both had good moments and both struggled. I don' t think Bartels would have been able to take the physical punishment Mollberg did in the previous games where he had no protection. Joe didn't have much of a chance at UNA and Bartels didn't have any chance in the previous 4-5 games. IF Bartels isn't the starter I believe he will leave. Mollberg will battle for the job but isn't going to spend 3 years on the bench. Don't blame either of them. I would play both of them the rest of the year because they both need to be evaluated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidago Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 what is going to be easier? teaching molberg to think, or teaching bartels to run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 what is going to be easier? teaching molberg to think, or teaching bartels to run? The more pressing issue for Bartels is arm strength. It can be improved to a point. For the most part though it's genetic. He could play a lot of tennis in the summer to strengthen his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Arm strength is the most over rated measurable of a QB IMHO. Can't begin to count the number of failed NFL QBs that could throw it on a rope a country mile. Arm strength is less important than your read. If you find your are underthrowing the deep ball, don't hold it so long. You release it more quickly, the receiver runs under it. If his speedy receivers are getting too far out in front of him on a 7 step, that's the adjustment he needs to make. *disclaimer: this advice was not my idea. its been coached that way a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Both dont need to play the rest of the year. Bartles needs to play the rest of the year which is a whopping two games. We have already seen what Molberg can do....and then Bartles came in and set a UND record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Both dont need to play the rest of the year. Bartles needs to play the rest of the year which is a whopping two games. We have already seen what Molberg can do....and then Bartles came in and set a UND record. Bartels also got a lot better after sitting. The same could happen to Mollberg. It's good for both of them to get some humble pie to fuel them to improve instead of either of them being handed the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux95 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have no real preference for one over the other, but if you want a fair comparison, Bartles needs to play the last two games. We have nothing to play for, so this is a no brainer in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The more pressing issue for Bartels is arm strength. It can be improved to a point. For the most part though it's genetic. He could play a lot of tennis in the summer to strengthen his arm. Yeah, his arm strength really made him struggle in setting a record Joe's huge arm couldn't match. I get you like Joe (or think he's better or whatever) but Ryan has performed well. His "lack of mobility" didn't affect things a whole lot last weekend. But of course that was because of the new offensive line and not because he got rid of the ball quicker than Joe can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux95 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yeah, his arm strength really made him struggle in setting a record Joe's huge arm couldn't match. I get you like Joe (or think he's better or whatever) but Ryan has performed well. His "lack of mobility" didn't affect things a whole lot last weekend. But of course that was because of the new offensive line and not because he got rid of the ball quicker than Joe can. Bartels actually showed good mobility on several occasions last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I think Bartels has looked better in his playing time. I'd go with him the rest of the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Is Mollberg Nick Mertens 2.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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