jodcon Posted September 9, 2013 Posted September 9, 2013 Where coaches get in trouble is not adapting to changes in the game or stubbornly sticking to schemes or players who cannot put the team in position to win, e.g. Rex Ryan. Some coaches get stale at their job like everyone else and need to move on, and sometimes they move to a new team and find their stride again, you never know. That said, I think Frazier is doing about all he can with what he has. Average QB at best, 1 veteran receiver and a bunch of young guys, and a horrible secondary does not translate to a 10-6 team...his coaching staff did a great job last year. Now if Ponder continues to have 4 turnovers every game and they don't pull the plug within a month, then I'm going to join in calling for...gulp...Cassel. Quote
MafiaMan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Like a Vikings no win situation This team went from 4-12 two years ago to 10-6 and the playoffs last season, right? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 This team went from 4-12 two years ago to 10-6 and the playoffs last season, right? Yeah and I think they overachieved a little last season. They also are transitioning from older guys to younger guys on defense, which always involves some growing pains. I would not be surprised if they took a step back this season. But, like the Lions this year, they will bounce back next year. As for the QB situation, I think it might be time to start looking for another prospect to groom for the job. I am beginning to think Ponder isn't up for it. Quote
Wilbur Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 With their schedule this year its just impossible for this team to make the playoffs. Instead of Pittsburgh at home, they're in fricken England.....plus playing two road games right away is never easy for any team. Look at their road schedule.... @ Chicago...Always play dope headed in Chicago....always. @ NY Giants....hopefully the bad Eli shows up.... @ Dallas.....Only won there with Randy Moss.... @ Seattle...Loss @ Green Bay....Loss @ Ravens....Loss @ Cincinatti.....Loss This bleeding purple Vikes fan is hoping for 6-10. Quote
jodcon Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 With their schedule this year its just impossible for this team to make the playoffs. Instead of Pittsburgh at home, they're in fricken England.....plus playing two road games right away is never easy for any team. Look at their road schedule.... @ Chicago...Always play dope headed in Chicago....always. @ NY Giants....hopefully the bad Eli shows up.... @ Dallas.....Only won there with Randy Moss.... @ Seattle...Loss @ Green Bay....Loss @ Ravens....Loss @ Cincinatti.....Loss This bleeding purple Vikes fan is hoping for 6-10. 0-16...hello Bridgewater! Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 0-16...hello Bridgewater! Hello #1 overall draft pick. Hello a real franchise quarterback. Quote
Wilbur Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 If they get to the point where they're like 2-7, they need to throw the rest of the season. Some good QB's coming out of this group of college players. I'd like Murray from Georgia. Quote
Fetch Posted September 11, 2013 Author Posted September 11, 2013 If thats the case lets just not play for a year or two & get that QB & build the new stadium & lose Allen trade AP for a Hershal Walker type trade for about 10 or 12 players (not serious but it did improve the cowboys in a hurry) Quote
Wilbur Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Was there any doubt they were losing today? Any doubt? After next week they're 0-3.....crap. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Was there any doubt they were losing today? Any doubt? After next week they're 0-3.....crap. Tank the season and get a high first-round draft pick. Then, use it on a QB. If they don't, AP should demand a trade. Quote
jodcon Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Was there any doubt they were losing today? Any doubt? After next week they're 0-3.....crap. If the Vikes aren't ahead by at least 17 going into the 4th I know we're in trouble...that's Vikings football. Quote
Wilbur Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Would not surprise me in the least bit if they finished 0-16. All games very losable. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Would not surprise me in the least bit if they finished 0-16. All games very losable. If that means we get a stud franchise QB, I think I can live with it. Quote
jodcon Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Would not surprise me in the least bit if they finished 0-16. All games very losable. ...or winnable...that's the beauty of it...a fresh stab in the heart every 4th quarter. If losing close games builds character I have a bunch following this team my whole life. Quote
Fetch Posted September 15, 2013 Author Posted September 15, 2013 It went better than I thought it would - we had a chance & got to see every weird thing that can happen in a game Quote
Wilbur Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 ...or winnable...that's the beauty of it...a fresh stab in the heart every 4th quarter. If losing close games builds character I have a bunch following this team my whole life. If losing games like this builds character Viking fans have enough character to be the fricken pope..... Quote
Fetch Posted September 15, 2013 Author Posted September 15, 2013 It was good to see the rookies make some plays & Jennings looked ok - we did everything but win Quote
Oxbow6 Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 3rd and goal and you hand it to AP from 4+ yards out? Horrible call. They needed a TD to seal the deal. Ponder sucks but a pass play was the call. A FG left the door open which Chicago gladly walked thru and stole a "W". 1 Quote
jimdahl Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Toward the end of today's game my 5 year-old declared that she's going to start cheering for the opposite teams as me because my teams always lose and it's no fun to cheer for them. We were in the car when the Vikings fumbled the kickoff (she had been asking repeatedly, "is it over, did Chicago win yet?") and she was cheering "Go Chicago! Chicago Wins!". I told her that cheering for the opposite teams as me was probably a pretty good strategy. Sigh. 1 Quote
jodcon Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 3rd and goal and you hand it to AP from 4+ yards out? Horrible call. They needed a TD to seal the deal. Ponder sucks but a pass play was the call. A FG left the door open which Chicago gladly walked thru and stole a "W". That right there tells you how much confidence they have in Ponder. But then again, playing "not to lose" has become a Viking 4th quarter staple. Quote
Wilbur Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 3rd and goal and you hand it to AP from 4+ yards out? Horrible call. They needed a TD to seal the deal. Ponder sucks but a pass play was the call. A FG left the door open which Chicago gladly walked thru and stole a "W". That was the game right there. I would have run it again on second down to maybe get closer then run it on third down if it was inside the two. Hell, I would have run it four times, yes even on fourth down because then Chicago would at least have to go from their own end zone and be content with a tying field goal instead of a winning touchdown. I can't even get into the..."well ponder played better".....or "well we almost got that one..." When I saw the schedule I said 6-10. Next weekend is a toss up at home against a bad Cleveland team, then after that you fly to London to lose to Pittsburgh before the bye week. Quote
Fetch Posted September 16, 2013 Author Posted September 16, 2013 Jim I have been a life long Viking fan - I have one daughter who has become a hard core g b puker fan for the same reasons as yours (I still love her) but we are hardcore rivals now (but its fun) Quote
Snake Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 The bottom line is the Vikings can't afford to lose the games that Ponder doesn't completely screw up. This one was there for the taking. Quote
remington_270 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Toward the end of today's game my 5 year-old declared that she's going to start cheering for the opposite teams as me because my teams always lose and it's no fun to cheer for them. We were in the car when the Vikings fumbled the kickoff (she had been asking repeatedly, "is it over, did Chicago win yet?") and she was cheering "Go Chicago! Chicago Wins!". I told her that cheering for the opposite teams as me was probably a pretty good strategy. Sigh. Smart girl....GO BEARS!!! Quote
Fetch Posted September 22, 2013 Author Posted September 22, 2013 1/2 time the Viks offensive line needs a old fashion coaches butt kicking Quote
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