siouxweet Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 what's amazing is Notre Dame is like we were last year in that they could be anywhere from the number 3 overall seed to being out of the tournament. Quote
ChetSteadman Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Why do they even seed the teams? I understand the teams that have to be put in the spot they are if they're hosting, but the rest is just this team here this team there because attendance will be better. It seems like all Moy does is put teams where he thinks the best attendance would be for that team and not putting 1vs16 and down the line. IMO as long as you're one of the 16 teams in, in don't much matter what your seed is. Quote
siouxforeverbaby Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Why do they even seed the teams? I understand the teams that have to be put in the spot they are if they're hosting, but the rest is just this team here this team there because attendance will be better. It seems like all Moy does is put teams where he thinks the best attendance would be for that team and not putting 1vs16 and down the line. IMO as long as you're one of the 16 teams in, in don't much matter what your seed is. Perhaps someone else can explain this better, but they try to remain as true to the seeding as possible. They try to avoid inter-conference match-ups for the first game and then do some maneuvering for attendance. Quote
ChetSteadman Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Perhaps someone else can explain this better, but they try to remain as true to the seeding as possible. They try to avoid inter-conference match-ups for the first game and then do some maneuvering for attendance. I realize that. Take the last bracket for example. Why put us against Notre Dame. Why not Niagra and beef up that cake walk for Wisconsin if they were to get in in that spot Quote
siouxforeverbaby Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 I realize that. Take the last bracket for example. Why put us against Notre Dame. Why not Niagra and beef up that cake walk for Wisconsin if they were to get in in that spot i would have to read what Moy's posted to understand his reasoning. It could be any variety of reasons. He used to explain his thought process, but he might not anymore. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 My shot if the following conference champs play out: Union, BU, CC, MI, Mercyherst: Manchester: Quinnipiac vs Mercyherst UNH* vs DU * swapped with Notre Dame for hosting purposes Toledo: Miami vs BU UND** vs Union **UND and BC swapped for attendance reasons in Providence Providence: Lowell vs CC BC** vs Niagara Grand Rapids: Minnesota vs Michigan Notre Dame vs MSU-Mankato Quote
siouxweet Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I think we are all but assured to end up in toledo or grand rapids Quote
Sioux-cia Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 My shot if the following conference champs play out: Union, BU, CC, MI, Mercyherst: Manchester: Quinnipiac vs Mercyherst UNH* vs DU * swapped with Notre Dame for hosting purposes Toledo: Miami vs BU UND** vs Union **UND and BC swapped for attendance reasons in Providence Providence: Lowell vs CC BC** vs Niagara Grand Rapids: Minnesota vs Michigan Notre Dame vs MSU-Mankato CC and UW have zero chance of making the Regionals? Quote
Dolphinswin Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 If Wisconsin wins they will be in the regionals, as well as Colorado College. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 CC and UW have zero chance of making the Regionals? I put CC in Providence playing Lowell Quote
Sioux-cia Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I put CC in Providence playing Lowell Oops! Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 CC and UW have zero chance of making the Regionals? UW had a slim chance at an at-large spot if mostly favorites won in the conference tournaments this week. Since there were so many upsets, the winner tonight is in and the loser goes home. The upsets also mean that St. Cloud State is on the bubble. They need the higher ranked teams to win the rest of the weekend, especially in the CCHA tournament. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 SCSU to 13... On the edge of the bubble.... Michigan and BU are big time enemies for Bobby's biker gang...referencing their haircuts Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 SCSU to 13... On the edge of the bubble.... Michigan and BU are big time enemies for Bobby's biker gang...referencing their haircuts It may come down to Michigan. If Michigan is in, it looks like St. Cloud is out. If Michigan doesn't win the CCHA, St. Cloud has a pretty good chance. I even ran a scenario where St. Cloud is in, but Mankato gets knocked out. Quote
ihatethegophers Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I was curious how SCSU could win the WCHA and barely make the tournament. Then I looked at their non conference schedule: 0-2 vs New Hampshire, 2-0 v Alabama Huntsville, 1-1 vs Rensselaer, 0-2 vs Northern Michigan. That is absolutely horrible. It really goes to show how important those non conference games are in the pairwise. Quote
ihatethegophers Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 It may come down to Michigan. If Michigan is in, it looks like St. Cloud is out. If Michigan doesn't win the CCHA, St. Cloud has a pretty good chance. I even ran a scenario where St. Cloud is in, but Mankato gets knocked out. I think St. Cloud is in as long as BOTH Michigan and BU don't win their tournaments. I ran a scenario where Michigan won but BU lost and that had SCSU in. Quote
siouxweet Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 if notre dame wins there could be an outside chance we end up in providence with qu. not likely but a chance. Quote
jk Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Interestingly, based on Jim's mid-Saturday update, MN is locked into #2 overall, and UNH is locked into #7. Bracket integrity would have them in the same regional, but MN will be in a Western regional, while UNH hosts an Eastern regional. Also according to Jim's post, UND will either be #6 or #8 overall. The need to resolve the 2/7 dilemma will give the committee the cover it needs to move teams wherever they'd like. It looks like UND's seed is dependent on Notre Dame. If the other ND loses, they will be 8 and the Sioux will be 6. If the Irish win, the Sioux are 8, and 6 will be either BC or Lowell. It seems possible that it will simply not matter whether UND is 6 or 8, as they are both equally switchable with UNH at 7. Quote
yelo09 Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I think MI wins I'm not sold on BU ... both punch their ticket with a win ... I believe SCSU is in with a MI or BU win as stated above...Mankato is in i think. Yale is the other bubble team. I like the MN/MI match-up in grand rapids ... I like us in Toledo it will be interesting to see how they put 6 WCHA teams if it plays out that way and keep bracket integrity.... Quote
BeazSioux Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 BU out Yale out SCSU in Michigan in Meechigan is not possible. They 26 in pairwise and haven't won their tourney . . . Yet Quote
luapsided Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 oh i thought it was over.... saw 6 2 final Forgot about late series. CCHA ..... lame Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 oh i thought it was over.... saw 6 2 final Forgot about late games That was a semi final Quote
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