Conference Realignments - Take 2

[SIOUXFAN97]

at this point how the hell doesn't the mwc say 18 milly and we're good.

30 milly in a week

[tjamz]

4 hours ago, AJS said:

Very unfortunate post, which feels very similar to what fans were saying in 2003. Nobody knows how will work out. I've learned not to bet against them but do feel they are taking a risk (more-so after seeing not only the $ amount they are paying, but also, not taking TV $ for X amount of years). Good news, I feel good about the like-minded schools that are left in the FCS (which UND is a part of).

Going to be fascinating to follow over the next few years. 

 

NDSU gets its share of the streaming revenue through Kiswe. They are also eligible for 75% year one and 85% year two of the revenue package if/when the MWC negotiates for a better media deal. I would assume the MWC has had "what if" conversations with it's media partners and is likely to release a new media agreement once the dust has settled and the schedules are set.

[SIOUXFAN97]

12 minutes ago, tjamz said:

NDSU gets its share of the streaming revenue through Kiswe. They are also eligible for 75% year one and 85% year two of the revenue package if/when the MWC negotiates for a better media deal. I would assume the MWC has had "what if" conversations with it's media partners and is likely to release a new media agreement once the dust has settled and the schedules are set.

assuming is the reason why the pac12 and mwc are struggling.

[NDSU grad]

49 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

at this point how the hell doesn't the mwc say 18 milly and we're good.

30 milly in a week

Sac St.’s in conversation with the MAC, not the MWC. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, NDSU grad said:

Sac St.’s in conversation with the MAC, not the MWC. 

i know...but why wouldn't the mwc say we'll take your 18 milly....regionally is makes more sense especially if it's all sports.

[jdub27]

2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

sac state and illinois state to the MAC....

that would put the the MidCon Football Conference to 8....and falling.

Illinois State is going to struggle to come up with $5 million for an NCAA, let alone whatever the MAC charges (though I could see them getting a healthy discount on what is being floated for Sac St.).

[SIOUXFAN97]

is it time to start auctioning off mvfc invites to wanna be d2 startusps..

 

bidding starts at.........5 million dollars!!!!!!

looking at you ferris state and msu

[FargoBison]

48 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Illinois State is going to struggle to come up with $5 million for an NCAA, let alone whatever the MAC charges (though I could see them getting a healthy discount on what is being floated for Sac St.).

It would come at a price but that price would be ISU basketball going to the MAC. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

29 minutes ago, FargoBison said:

It would come at a price but that price would be ISU basketball going to the MAC. 

for sure....full membership...

then bang.....................tommies to mvc..........the oral to uac......then.....fill in blank.

[SIOUXFAN97]

i like how fenton just said that this new big sky/midcon alliance was done without the help/input of the league.....wtf????

is it that hard to look at und hosting crown college and usd hosting mount union and montana hosting billings state to realize that yeah......you come here...we go there.....

fenton is drunk at the wheel

[NDSU grad]

2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i know...but why wouldn't the mwc say we'll take your 18 milly....regionally is makes more sense especially if it's all sports.

I think UC Davis will fill that hole eventually. I think Davis and Sac are like 20 miles apart or something like that. Doesn’t make sense to add them both. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, NDSU grad said:

I think UC Davis will fill that hole eventually. I think Davis and Sac are like 20 miles apart or something like that. Doesn’t make sense to add them both. 

davis will eventaully be in the pac12....just like everyone else in the mwc right....poof gone....backfill big sky mvfc

17 milly to be where the big sky and summit and dak4 footbal lshould be....

[jdub27]

23 hours ago, FargoBison said:

It would come at a price but that price would be ISU basketball going to the MAC. 

Can't imagine ISU would be in a hurry to trade the MVC for MAC basketball. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

17 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Can't imagine ISU would be in a hurry to trade the MVC for MAC basketball. 

if you priotitze football easy choice....i still don't really understand mvfc members that are in the mvc for oly....one or the other and go for it...seems like they like to half ass it.

[gfhockey]

21 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if you priotitze football easy choice....i still don't really understand mvfc members that are in the mvc for oly....one or the other and go for it...seems like they like to half ass it.

The money is in fiotball

 

look at rev and expenses at big schools

 

football equal orofit

[SIOUXFAN97]

17 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

The money is in fiotball

 

look at rev and expenses at big schools

 

football equal orofit

if your "big time football" it can make you money...but most/all smaller poser schools ...it does not.

[nodakvindy]

19 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

The money is in fiotball

 

look at rev and expenses at big schools

 

football equal orofit

MAC and MVC aren't big schools. There is no profit. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

sac state to MAC for 18 milly...jfc

[FSSD]

11 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

sac state to MAC for 18 milly...jfc

Media contracts are different:  Sac St. is going to get paid in 2028.  NDSU is waiting till 2033.  5 year difference.  And is ESPN going to use it's media machine to pump-up it's new toy Sac St. (Top 20 media market in US) to help it with it's transition.  MWC is not ESPN.

MAC:

Aspect	Details
Current Media Rights Holder	ESPN (exclusive TV/digital rights) (ESPN Press Room U.S.)
Contract End (Expiration)	After the 2026–27 academic year (summer 2027) (ESPN Press Room U.S.)
Approx. Total Annual Value to the MAC	~$8 million per year (Sports Business Journal)
Approx. Value per School/Year	~ $600,000 – $800,000 per school (Sports Business Journal)

MWC

Item	Detail
Current/New MWC Media Deal	CBS, FOX, The CW & Kiswe
Contract Length	6 years (2026-27 through 2031-32)
Expiration Date	~ June 30, 2032
Estimated Value per School/Year	~ $3.5 M – $4 M+ (based on recent historical distributions and league statements)

Market:

Metric	Fargo–Valley City DMA	Sacramento–Stockton–Modesto DMA
Nielsen DMA Rank	~113th (USTVDB)	20th (Nexstar Media Group, Inc.)
TV Households	~270,000 (USTVDB)	~1.4–1.5 million (Nexstar Media Group, Inc.)
Population Reach	Smaller, mostly rural/regional (USTVDB)	Several million residents (eMedia Monitor)
Relative Advertising Market	Smaller & more localized	Larger & nationally significant

[nodakvindy]

13 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

sac state to MAC for 18 milly...jfc

Does open up a 2nd tv window for MACtion, and that's all college football really is, tv inventory.