sprig Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Isn't the guy allowed an opinion....Even if it is extremely out in left field? Maybe he went to left field, but I think the coach said "left out" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 "Why isn't there a college hockey EA sports video game?" "There's nothing to do in Grand Forks, no wonder their fans are so passionate" "North Dakota has nothing but hicks and mullets" "Jess Myers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I won't cry like a little girl over a knee to knee check, even when a Penguin is on the receiving end of it Bet you would if it was your knee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I can kill this thread in just four words: Big. Ten. Hockey. Conference. I think LGS just usurped you, Sica. And it appears as though Siouxforeverbaby suckered DaveK successfully. If that's the point, then kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Because he barely played. That statement was made not to belittle him but rather to criticize the coaching staff for giving him a raw deal. He's a good kid who deserved better. again though since you maybe didn't catch it the first time....it does not matter the intent.....to say that he was a non-factor because he didn't play that much is wrong.....you can be a factor on the ice or on the bench or in the lockeroom or in the stands. You are entitled to your own opinion and I am entitled to disagree with them and argue with them. So, fine....think what you want to think...I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 IMHO, you can't contribute to wins and losses if you don't play. If you disagree... well, I guess you're entitled to that. No need to get upset. I'll humbly disagree . To say that Robbie Bina's very unfortunate injury was not something that pushed the 2004-2005 Sioux team to playing in the National Title game then I say ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 IMHO, you can't contribute to wins and losses if you don't play. If you disagree... well, I guess you're entitled to that. No need to get upset. Dang....and to think I always thought coaches and home ice advantages were useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxman Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 IMHO, you can't contribute to wins and losses if you don't play. If you disagree... well, I guess you're entitled to that. No need to get upset. So the atmosphere at the Ralph is irrelevant. Great! Maybe now people will quit complaining about it, although they are entitled to their opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 UND are goons. Their fans are fans of the Skating Halos. FIRE LUCIA! () Kick UAA and MTU out of the WCHA! Bring BSU into the WCHA! MSU,M are hacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 IMHO, you can't contribute to wins and losses if you don't play. If you disagree... well, I guess you're entitled to that. No need to get upset. Again, being there for a team in the locker room can contribute to a win or loss....being there for them in practice can contribute to a win or loss. Like SiouxFanatic said, so Bina and his injury did not push his teammates to try and win a National Championship for him?...or the next season, just his being there and able to skate, that did not encourage them?....Or when he became cleared for contact the week that we played Denver...that did not inspire his teammates, just a little bit? The only reason that I am arguing with you is that it is not fair to countless Sioux players that brought something to our team even though they did not play that much. Especially when they are not here to defend themselves, it is quite easy to do that to someone who can't not reply to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 IMHO, you can't contribute to wins and losses if you don't play. If you disagree... well, I guess you're entitled to that. No need to get upset. I guess we are going to beat another horse to death eh Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Isn't the guy allowed an opinion....Even if it is extremely out in left field? Left field heck he has surpased the stands and is sitting in the parking lot of the ball park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 UND are goons. Their fans are fans of the Skating Halos. FIRE LUCIA! () Kick UAA and MTU out of the WCHA! Bring BSU into the WCHA! MSU,M are hacks. That is a historical fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I'll give this a shot! Okay, first, NDSU will never be our rival until they can produce a mens hockey team that wins a national championship in D-1. Otherwise, they're a second rate institution. Period. Second, fire Hakstol. Don't bring Blais back. Bring back the ghost of Herb Brooks using a Quigi board at every game. Everyone knows that his soul will never rest until he wins a national championship for North Dakota. Third, The Red Pepper is the best Mexican restaurant north of Juarez. Period. (Don't say that it's not good food. Taste has nothing to do with it!) Ham and taco meat Grinders should be required food after every North Dakota hockey game. However, you will be required to fail a blood alcohol test before being allowed to order one. That's all I got! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I believe that you can be both a Sioux fan and a Gopher fan, if and only if: 1) you are a chimera (originally twins, but one absorbed the other in the womb and both sets of DNA still exist in the person) 2) you have multiple personalities that hate each other Other than that you cannot be a true Sioux fan and a Gopher fan. It's Newton's first law of duplicity. Good post, but it's a lot simpler than that. "Sioux fan" is defined in Webster's First College Hockey Dictionary as "One who . . . , and hates the Gophers with a holy passion." If you don't hate the gophs, you don't fall within the definition, so you can't be a fan of both. You might want to be a Sioux fan, but you can't be. Sorry, but the world is a hard place sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I don't think I'll lose any sleep over not fitting YOUR definition of Sioux fan. I support both teams, get over it. When the name changes you can sign on to GPL and support the Gophers. UND won't exist anymore so that should make it less complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 You mean "IF" the name changes. We still have till Oct. 30th to get a deal done, and even if that doesn't happen we could still go with no nickname. I hope my degree will still be good IF the name changes, since UND won't exist anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I hope my degree will still be good IF the name changes, since UND won't exist anymore. I'll have to go back and read my diploma again. I don't remember getting a Fighting Sioux degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Not to worry, the SCHOOL will still exist. The football and hockey teams that I've supported since I was a child will be replaced by new teams. I didn't realize that they were going to kick all of those student-athletes out of school and fire all of the coaches. That's not right. I think we should talk to somebody about that. Are they going to tear down the Ralph, the Alerus Center and Memorial Stadium too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Not to worry, the SCHOOL will still exist. The football and hockey teams that I've supported since I was a child will be replaced by new teams. So when the name changes are they kicking the current players/students out of school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Some of you people need to learn how to differentiate between the athletic dept. and the academic institution. They're not one in the same. Anybody who chooses to rip me for my loyalty being contingent on not changing the namemust not remember when Ralph threatened to halt construction on the arena. The current Ralph is big and beautiful as we all know, but Sioux hockey doesn't need it to survive. We've won 7 titles, none in the current building. Let 'em tear it down if it means keeping the name. I like the name more than the building. Yes, we have bragging rights with the arena, and it draws many good recruits. But the banners are what count. They don't give those for having the best home ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Some of you people need to learn how to differentiate between the athletic dept. and the academic institution. They're not one in the same. Anybody who chooses to rip me for my loyalty being contingent on not changing the namemust not remember when Ralph threatened to halt construction on the arena. The Athletic Department is a part of the whole that is the University of North Dakota. They are not the same but they are related. I don't care if you decide to root for the University of North Dakota teams or not, whether they change the name or not. My problem is that you keep saying that the teams will not exist, that new teams will take their place if the name is changed. That is not correct. As I have said many times, the teams will not change. They are the University of North Dakota football team, the University of North Dakota hockey team and the University of North Dakota whatever sports teams. The players will be the same (except those students that move on). The coaches will be the same. The trainers will be the same. The facilities will be the same. The nickname, logo and uniforms may change. BUT THE TEAMS WILL NOT BE DIFFERENT, THEY WON'T BE EXPANSION TEAMS. Root for the University of North Dakota teams, root for the Gophers , root for the Bison, Root for the St. Louis Bilikens. Root for whoever you want. Just realize that the teams are not going away, but the name might. It's not the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxman Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 When the NFL's Oilers changed their name to the Titans they became a different team. The last Oilers team had a lot of players that were on the first Titans team the following year, had the same coaches and trainers, and still played in Tennessee. But still the Oilers are the Oilers and the Titans are the Titans. Same franchise, but two different teams. The Oilers no longer exist. Not quite correct. When they talk about all time Titan stats and team records, they still include the Oilers stats and records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 When the NFL's Oilers changed their name to the Titans they became a different team. The last Oilers team had a lot of players that were on the first Titans team the following year, had the same coaches and trainers, and still played in Tennessee. But still the Oilers are the Oilers and the Titans are the Titans. Same franchise, but two different teams. The Oilers no longer exist. If UND is forced to drop the nickname I can see them retaining some sense of continuity by going with no nickname at all. They could be known simply as the University of North Dakota football team, University of North Dakota hockey team, etc... I could respect that. What I do not and will not respect is the concept of replacing the current nickname with another one. That is what would make me think of UND as having one team that existed up until whatever point that it became extinct and then started all over with a brand new team. If that happens I will take it as a slap in the face. Just because we get our name taken away does not mean we should be forced to replace it. I want the current nickname or none at all. Slapping any other nickname on our teams is the only way to ensure that over time the Fighting Sioux name will gradually be forgotten. Go with no nickname and it will stay alive as an "unofficial" moniker. From my point of view, replacing the nickname = ending the existence of one team and starting a new one. You may not feel the same way as I do, and that is fine, but that doesn't give you the right to tell me I'm wrong to feel that way. First of all, the Oilers didn't disappear when they changed their name. The Titans still consider that part of their franchise. It was part of the evolution process. If you go to the Tennessee Titans web site you will see the entire history of the franchise, including the years they called themselves the Oilers. They don't think that they became a different team even if you do. But even if you could consider the Titans a new team, which it wasn't, the major difference in your scenario is that THEY MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CITY, A DIFFERENT STATE AND A NEW STADIUM. They rebranded themselves to fit better into a new situation. Companies rebrand at times as do sports teams. The Titans didn't start over. And neither will the University of North Dakota. The team will continue. It probably just won't be called by the same name. I know that you don't like the idea of UND losing the nickname and logo. A lot of people don't like the idea. I don't like it, although I have accepted that it will probably happen. And if you decide not to be a fan of UND when they choose a new nickname, that is up to you. I am not trying to tell you that you're wrong about that. That would be your choice. I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY WOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS A TOTALLY NEW TEAM IS IN YOUR MIND. Everyone else recognizes that it would be a program making a change. A major change, but still just a change. They will have the same team records and the same team history and the same players and the same coaches and the same trainers and the same administrators and the same reporters and the same fans and the same home facilities and etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I've got one last one: Blah blah, blah blah blah blahblah. Yackity Schmackity yabbadabba rummalumma blah blah ding dong flibber flabber! And you can all shove that up your flim flammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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