UNDBIZ

You can run back to Bville now.... you lost.

Immediately after which you exhibited your jealousy of UND.

He's saying the poll isn't valid because it doesn't even have any people who said they were undecided on the issue. He might have a point, but I'd guess the question was asked in a "If the vote was held today" kind of way. That way it captures which way everybody is leaning.....

I hate to do this, but..... UMary. Note: I can understand if you were trying to say UMary isn't a real school.

Exactly.

One big thing is there was never a run-up in the price of housing in ND before the oil boom like there was in the rest of the country. However, the oil boom is causing the price of housing to increase dramatically now. If the oil boom were to go bust, many people (especially in the western half of the state starting with Bismarck and Minot) would see the value of their property decrease a lot. The state as a whole would go through some lean years as it adjusts back to pre-2008 (when the rest of the country was booming) spending levels. Although the state would've been fine without the oil boom, it is quickly becoming dependent on it now that it's here. IMO, you're both right to an extent. ND was fine before the oil boom, but if it goes bust things could be difficult for a few years (again, especially for western ND). However, most economists and people on the ground don't see this oil boom going bust any time soon, but it's pretty rare for them to predict a bust when everyone is making so much money pushing the boom.

Shhhh, we don't bring up that stuff here.

I get that too even though I posted a comment in it earlier. It's just another thread about the nickname and Minnesota playing some teams (FSU) and not others. It probably got deleted because there are dozens of other threads on similar topics.

Just because western ND will finally have $$ doesn't mean eastern ND will no longer make any $$. ND's economy is currently in one of those great situations where the entire state can make $$. Oh, and Bismarck is already a lot bigger than Grand Forks, it just doesn't seem like it because the people of Bismarck are so backwards.

I believe he was referencing my post about UND being in the same conference as Minot, Crookston, and UMary. It wasn't a slam against ND, it was a statement that UND should be associating itself with comparable schools. Other than geography (and in Minot's case the NDUS), UND has little in common with these small schools.

My response was only to still being D2 instead of moving up to D1. As far as Crookston not playing UND, I'd assume if we were in the same conference then it would be similar to UM-TC only playing UND in conference play. Not that it makes a valid argument anyways because being in the same conference as the aforementioned schools would be an embarrassment and a huge blow to student recruitment.

State appropriations are not used for athletics at UND, you've been told this before.

Yeah because playing against Minot, UMary, and Crookston would be way better for UND than playing against crappy old Texas Tech, Fresno St, and Kansas.

Ah yes because then UND could be in a conference with great local schools like Minot, Crookston, and UMary.....

No posting of direct quotes allowed unless you only use a couple of words out of context to make your point in favor of keeping the name at all costs.

What post is this directed at? Regardless, a true fan will follow the team with or without the name.

How long ago did they play at UND? Where were they from originally? What other schools offered them scholarships to play? Was UND under sanctions at the time? Is their first name Frank?

Recruits don't choose a school to make a political statement. They choose a school where they can win, get noticed (professional path), or get a good education. You wouldn't know about any of that because you have never chosen a school or played an organized sport.

And how exactly did they force him to give up on his convictions? He's a great coach who could've gotten a job anywhere. I don't believe he wouldn't have compromised his beliefs purely from "peer pressure." More likely, he realized the battle was lost and it was time to move on. Perhaps he realized that he, his assistants, and his players (along with the coaches and players of all the other athletic teams at the school) are more important than a nickname and logo.

Then please explain your statement that Hak "had to admit" the name should be retired.

Did you ever stop and think maybe people are afraid for valid reasons? Fear is a necessary and useful emotion, just ask the deer that wasn't afraid to run in front of my car last fall.... oh wait.... nevermind.

Yeah you guys, he was going to be fired if he didn't toe the company line and Hak knew that because of his abysmal record as a head coach at UND he never would've been able to get another job!!!

You probably won't notice them because you're not an actual fan of the team.....

Yeah I posted that to show that even in the NBA players are punished for skipping practice.

I fail to see the problem here....