Frozen4sioux

^^^^^^This.

Good Lord, They them then they there they them than, who??? What does a proper sentence look like in your world? You need to realize that "your personal interpretation" of what you think the agreement says, is not a quality rock to build an argument or opinion on. You have built in assumptions that pervert your view of the subject and are incapable of understanding the actual fact that those involved obviously donot share your perverted interpretation of.

The potential sale of the land is something Im not sure is in the best interest of the University. HPC2 needs to get done needs a lot of money, but is selling that piece for 8 million a way to raise it? issues i want to know more about: Potential future use: dreams vs reality. Valuation: $8 Million seems low to me. How would the cirrent and future donors feel about selling off the gift. I dont know the intention of those that gifted the land as we do in the the REA case. If a huge sum is needed for HPC2 so urgently ... the timing of a pissing match with the largest and most visible public donor was even more idiotic. I just hope that the resources are being pit to use properly and financially sound. Was Ray Richards profitable while open and operating?

And you are again foolishly assuming a result based on utterly failing to understand the situation. Again. Continually. Foolish.

Its literarlly what you wrote. Good lord you can't keep up with your own hypocrisy. "there is not an overwhelming consensus against the nickname at this point" If you honestly believe this.... there just isn't any way for a sane person to take you with a shred of credibility. I question your ability to unserstand the world around you, and I truly pray for your saftey as you navigate the earth, which by your logical abilities I have no doubt you believe to be flat.

Almost everyone. The consensus.... if you will.

The "consensus" among UND supporters is quite clear. Far and away there is a general agreement that people think the logo is shyte. That is the consensus, like it or not. Very poor word choice. What you really meant was " Everyone who even remotely is associated with UND needs to mindlessly worship the symbol of mediocrity, or a few of us will relentlesly insult them until they do, untill then we all lose."

Not interested in Wahlstrom. IF he plays in college and that is a massive IF at this point.... he would play at max one year. I'm in the camp of thinking that if a player is going to go the college route it is best to be on at least a 2 year plan.

but but but but but the poor athletes..... the coaches said it, you all quote it every other post.. the players need the logo at mid field/center court or they are disheartened. Its your argument, so if its that damn important why throw out a perfectly good and serviceable sign instead of putting the money where it is so desperately needed. ... as you argue... intoncoaches salaries, lockerrooms, and and the holy grail of midfield? Poor management of budget and expenditures. Something the REA agreement protects ALL UND Athletics from an increase of. I guess you do need a break, from your own arguements maybe??? Watching you struggle with logic is like watching a puppy chasing its tail, and its just as entertaining.

This is an example of why I'm very comfortable having the REA contract setup. Foolish expenditures. Instead of the logo at midfield on turf to be seen on TV and so the athletes see it as the walk by, (as coaches are quotes saying they need) UND spent a ton of money $40,000 on a new graphic for a perfectly serviceable sign on the Alerus center and more (plus $35,000) for the HPC signs... Why wasn't that money spent on enhancements that are so badly needed for FB program, enhancements that could have helped with locker rooms, and coaches salaries like I keep hearing about. Examples like this of UND spending money foolishly, is why I have NO issue in the REA agreement. IN fact if the FHawkzis want to keep playing this "for the benefit of all UND athletics" card..... keeping the most money out of the hands of foolish spending is probably true to the spirit of the agreement....."benefiting all UND athletics"!!!

Im not sure maybe somebody does know this for sure, who owns and has responsibility of the turf at the Alerus, The Arena or does it belong to UND. Also, UND paid for the brand new Hawk logoed helmet sign on the outside of the ACenter, not the Arena.

Debateable.

Wouldn’t also be fair to point out the increase in expenses, including labor, supplies and the like. Assuming more revenue = more net profit is again, quite foolish.

Looks like Bryce Brodinski flipped commitmemt to follow Motzko. Clown fans are not entertained.

Cant help ya son, i relayed feedback that was said by others. Cant fix stupid, but they can downvote together if it makes him feel happy.

The life of blisfull ignorance must be glorious. I just cant imagine floating through life as stupid and useless as those we've all witnessed here, together I bet you make a fun little foursome of fustrated impotence against what you hate so bad. Oh that has to be sooooo frustrating, hating so bad and seething in your jealous rage of incompetence. Uuffda thats sad. It is telling that you all hate the success of others, it is always a sign of the incapable people. If sitting on each others shoulders makes you feel big, then keep at it, but no matter how much you chuckle inside your own insanity, you will never change the fact of your own inability. But hey, keep reaching for those limitations, I'm very certain you will always achieve them.

I'll take the words from the horses mouth over your 3rd hand opinion.

I’m sick of you arrogant ungrateful Hawkzi scum and the jealous hate filled BS you spew. I I GUARANTEE that yes DONORS to University of North Dakota Athletics have seen these pages, and they have been disgusted by the ungrateful whining and complaining. It HAS effected donations that would have been made. I was at an event today and it was the big topic. The people that were talking about it DO NOT throw around selfish internet tirades, they throw money around, a hell of a lot more than I do, and they were pissed at 2 things in particular. 1) Kennedy re: manner this has been handled 2) Comments they have seen from this site about the Engelstads. I’m pissed and disgusted after what I heard today, it’s shameful. If any of you think that you have advanced UND athletics, with the attitudes presented on here, are fools, small sad fools. But hey don’t take my word maybe just ask around to some of the people that ACTUALLY DO support Athletics with more than just your Hawk logoed pacifier purchases. There’s not a quality person involved in the University of North Dakota Athletic Deparment that condones your ungrateful behavior. LOG OFF before you do the University any more harm!!

I’d say next to zero if they, or any other donors, see this arrogant ashole’s comments.

This is a fantasy. I've lived the opposite. Others were treated like !@#$ on toast by the FB program and that was BEFORE they went on the D1jv run. Can't imagine the genuflecting that is required now.

Literally the definition of welfare. Lets not try to make entities stand for themselves but rather just provide to them from others. They ARE being enhanced NOW with some of the fortunate revenue generated by REA. When is it ever going to be enough? 50%.... 75%... 100%... Although now it appears that the fight IS all about the logo. And the hypothtical windfall of merch revenue that the center court logo will generate. Really KEM should compromise on this part as the logo is already "on the court" as it sits on the plan now... it really isnt that big of a deal, just would want the North Dakota wordmarks on the ends.

Vegas has played a very cheap game at times, couple big dives too the reffing is suggesting the NHL is heavily concerned about a small market Winnipeg SCF.

Just HOF entries in the human trash category of posts, coming in hot.

Really the court as is with the green sidelines, that’s kinda our landscape pic the same way Denver has the mountains ghosted in there.