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Both schools along with UNI had stopped recruiting him.

I believe the only two that had UND offers were Enz from Wisconsin and Ogbu from Bismarck.

Can we just have a moderator check the IP's and end this stupid charade?

UND wanted to sign a home/home. What they were offering UND as "pay" to play a one time game in Brookings wasn't worth it.

No, the numbers show he actually does worse with the exact same team in front of him....

You've been waiting how long to let that out......? No one in Grand Forks is selling this game as anything but a body bag game while I seem to remember the Fargo media pumping up Valpo like they were the next coming because they were a "D-1" team. But regardless, you obsession is amusing to the rest of us.

At this point, it becomes the developer's risk, though I would guess you'll find a little bit of crossover. They are the one's putting their money on the line, not the voters, who actually come out slightly ahead since they don't have to pay for the Park District to keep up the lot now.

I agree. Glad to see common sense win out on this one. I wonder how many of the "yes" votes could have told you where Arbor Park actually was a month or two ago, let alone today.

So you admittedly spend very little time there yet dismiss the opinions of people who work and live down there because it would benefit them in various ways? I guess I'm not following the logic on that one.

Reading between the lines, her idea of what her job was/should be would was significantly different than what the majority of people would think is appropriate. When using terms like "much broader", "institution-wide" and "big-picture", it seems like her belief was to have a say in everything on campus.

Need's to be that long to get everyone a look when you jam as many kids as you can into it. Kudos for them for getting that many kids on campus for an extended period of time I guess.

Reserved spots = guaranteed revenue for the athletic department, thus the reason they aren't going away. However it sounds like they are open to some sort of tweaks, which is nice to hear.

It is significantly larger than other two lots that are on the same block, one of which does not have the alley access that is required for the project. The fact that you think other lots might be comparable (they aren't) has zero bearing on what the people who are looking to invest millions of dollars into downtown want to do or need to make a successful investment for them and Grand Forks.

How is it going to be more vibrant and continue to attract businesses and people when there is a faction of the population literally preventing people who are trying to do exactly that, develop a previously developed lot to bring in businesses and people?

There is absolutely nothing about that park that can't be duplicated somewhere else with pretty minimal work. Off the top of my head, the big one is that the city doesn't own the lot on the corner. Also, it can't be connected to the parking ramp via skyway.

Almost everywhere as far as I know? Most places are like UND and have both reserved and unreserved spots. I agree on the people who use them for parking. Very frustrating.

I partially agree with this because it gets frustrating, especially later in the year, seeing all of the empty spots between groups. That being said, it is incredibly convenient to know exactly where you are going to be set up, especially when people are stopping by and also knowing exactly what you are working in terms of space and area around you.

Allow for a little bit of post-game tailgating (1 hour?). It is a pain to hop in the vehicle and be forced out, only to have to sit in traffic. On top of that, some of those rigs aren't real easy to handle in high traffic or with people walking around everywhere. Also consider allowing vehicles/rigs to be left overnight, with the stipulation that they have to be picked up by 10am (or appropriate some time) the next morning. We are very cognizant to make sure we have a driver but it would be nice if it was at least an option to be able to leave our rig overnight. As it sits currently, or at least a few years ago, we were told that if we were to leave it overnight, our spots would be revoked. In theory, every group has someone designated to drive them home. In reality, we know that isn't how it works.

Arbor Park is some plants, sidewalks and a couple tables with some art thrown in, the only actual grass is a small hill that isn't usable for anything. That's hardly tough to replicate. Loon Park on 3rd is a little smaller than Arbor Park but pretty much the same thing. Add in the grassy hill and a few more pieces of art, and people won't know the difference (especially considering most have never done anything other than use them as a shortcut between the parking ramp and 3rd St.). The one on Kittson actually has grass you can go onto and is closer to what most consider a "park" than either of the other two. Even one of the artists who had a piece commissioned and still displayed in Arbor Park is on record as being in favor of development. Seems that he understands the developers will still keep parts of the park "alive" while also bringing more people to downtown.

Based on what?

So you mean people who's livelihood (business owners) or quality of life (current residents) that would most directly be affected by what happens to the park are in favor of developing it? Seems like a good reason to "Vote No to Grow". Maybe, maybe not on saving Amazing Grains, but there is absolutely zero argument that those extra people would have helped them out.

Yes, because he's never been one to use hyperbole, which is exactly what he's doing by claiming the other side is "hinting" at something. As for his actual point, I'd love to hear how a park is better for economic development than someone that wants to put up a $10+ million building? I have quite a bit of confidence that the development of that lot will lead to at least one or two other very good things for downtown. Seriously? Comparing Central Park to a pocket park that was an eyesore for how many years and rarely gets used? Again, there are currently 4 pocket parks on that same block with Town Square on the adjacent block not to mention the Greenway a whopping 2 blocks away. Does NYC have 20% of each block dedicated to parks? I'm not sure where you get the idea that it is the people who would benefit from the condos being the direct beneficiaries. In fact, I'm not even sure who is the one that benefits from having the condos there other than maybe the developer? Seems to me that the majority of businesses downtown are in favor of it along with a lot of people who are business owners in town, because they understand how adding something like this downtown is beneficial. I'd be Amazing Grains would have loved another 100 or so people living downtown along with a handful more businesses. You are also completely wrong on the timing of the vote (talk about selling fiction or trying to confuse people). It is being held when it is because of when the petition by those against development submitted it.

Congrats to junior Molli Detloff for earning All-American second team honors by finishing 12th in the hammer through at the 2017 NCAA Outdoor Championships.

As someone who spends a lot more time downtown than you, I wouldn't go as far to say it is "doing good right now". There are some good things and some not so good ones and there has been a lot of time and effort (mainly from the Downtown Development Association) just to get it where it is but there is still a lot of room for it to get better. As for green space, why exactly does one city block need 4 pocket parks with another huge town square the next block over? It isn't because they are constantly being used and are full all the time. No one (except your hyperbole) is saying that not developing it spells doom, they are saying that someone wanting to invest millions of dollars to offer some mid to upper level housing for people and add more business space is a lot more beneficial for the city than preventing an empty lot from being developed for the next 100 years. Since we're throwing hyperbole out there: The non-development crowd would have you believe that the park itself is the lifeblood of the downtown area and developing it would somehow turn the whole downtown into buildings and concrete.