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Hadn't heard Bartels was hurt. Joe is done for season. Would hate to have to pull redshirt on Stensrud for season with no hope for playoffs. I would play Hanson in games where outcome is decided to protect Bartels.

Yup. I would have worded it differently. I would have said we never gave Joe a shot at throwing >40 times in a game. There were no throws or decisions made yesterday that Joe hasn't made, both good and bad. I think Ryan can get the job done but he needs the same thing Joe needed:Time to throw and guys catching the ball, running the right routes and running game capable of keeping a defense honest. Hopefully Joe can recover from this and until he does the job is Ryan's.

My skin in the game is the success of UND FB. It is Bartles job the rest of the season and I hope he develops into an All - American and has a long NFL career. The fact I have defended Mollberg is nothing more or less than my opinion, just like your criticism of Joe all year is your opinion. Your inconsistency in your criticism is what I pointed out. I don't believe our QB's are handcuffed by poor coaching. The defense has been improving. When they started playing well yesterday, and we got back in the game we threw the pick. You would not have blamed that on the coaching or the defense.

Shouldn't be "ripping on Ryan" anyway. He has had plenty of preparation. This is college FB not HS. The experts here don't think practice means much anyway. The point is there is no reason to "rip" on either of these guys but if that is what one does, then if you wish to maintain credibility, then I seem to have missed the undue criticism of Bartles that is reserved for others. Garmin is another example. Give him some room he can be an effective RB. He won't run over people and may not break every arm tackle but some of these same folks who demand a new coach, new QB, new bus driver, whenever we struggled, don't get it. This is a work in progress. At this time, there is no reason to compare anymore cuz Ryan is the guy for the rest of the season. Our line needs to protect him. I think he will do fine given protection, but we need to catch the ball and continue to have some semblance of a running game.

Not sure how much validity there is in your opinion of the QB situation anymore. Where was the scathing criticism of the under thrown, overthrown deep passes the pick 6 thrown that the points were delayed by their penalty that took us out of a game where we were coming back. This was against one of the weakest defenses in the league if not the FCS. Don't make the wind excuse, the other guy completed over 90% of his passes. Had Joe been the QB with the exact same results you and a couple others would have been screaming again. I don't mean this as a criticism of Bartles as much as pointing out that a lot of you folks don't understand the issues with our offense. Mollberg has been getting hammered all season and gets knocked out for the season by another missed block. Until now, he has survived and has been developing into the leader and QB most of us were believing he could. I don't know that Ryan could have taken the same physical beating and lasted this long. Having said that, Bartles is capable and we have teams coming up on the schedule we can beat. Although Bartles struggled yesterday, if he is given time, he can be an effective QB. Receivers need to catch the damn ball no matter how much " zip" it has and they need to run the right routes. The RB's need to hang on to the ball and the oline needs to be more than a speed bump. We need to be patient with Bartles just like we needed patience with Joe. I would also get him out of the game when the outcome is decided to try and keep him healthy to get through the season. Can't have defensive breakdown like yesterday. No excuse. Keys were the unusual decision to take the wind instead of defer decision on opening kickoff, Norberg's fumble on the pitch, failure to make first down on fake punt, Mollberg's injury, first int by Bartles when defense started playing and we had shot at getting back in game and the overall lack of intensity esp by defense. This is game we should have won.

Not his knee

The message there genius is that there is no excuse for how the defense is playing. We aren't out of this yet. We are playing a team with a weak defense. If we give Bartels time and hang on to the ball we can score on these guys.

Bartles is capable. He faces same challenges Joe did. Receivers don't always run right route and don't always catch ball. Don't have as much time as some of you think sometimes. The offensive issues aren't and haven't been the QB. If Bartels can bring us back, he starts and with Joe hurt he probably starts anyway. Reason fake punt there isn't bad call is cuz no one else thought we should fake it either and it should have gone. I didn't like taking wind and giving up ball to start game but I understand it. Defense hasn't adjusted to Mountain time.

For the life of me can't understand why this even has life. Why restrict the flexibility of the legislature to decide where the funds are spent each year? If we need money for the environment then appropriate what is needed. If we need more than 5% then spend more. If measure 5 passes the chance of getting more than that is slim. If less than 5% is needed then they have the flexibility to spend less. Guaranteeing money like this tends to lead to waste. Some of that 5% might be needed elsewhere. Similar legislation in Minnesota though not related to oil, guarantees money for environment and arts. Has led to waste in some cases and that money can't be used elsewhere. Stupid to limit flexibility and options but still need to protect environment. This isn't the way to do it.

I would expect this game and all of the rest of the games on our schedule to be tough games. I'm not sure what would lead us to believe this, or any other game left on our schedule, would be a blowout. We are capable of winning this game and if we keep improving, hopefully we will be able to compete in every game left on the schedule.

GFhockey takes QB's and assigns the rest of the GOBC to the other duties. the team is in good hands.

I think that is the frustration many have with Joe. There was a lot of excitement when he turned down the Ag School and had a lot of interest from Iowa and Northern Illinois. Neither of these guys developed last year as they could have/should have. Lots of factors but one of them is going to be our guy going forward and this staff thinks it is Mollberg. They need to know if they are right or wrong. There isn't any game this year that has answered that question, even the MSU game where he played poorly. I understand the criticism, but your former high school coach thinks Mollberg is the better QB. I do to so far. Expectations are very high and dissapointment will be more for Joe and not so much with Ryan. They both can play, but can Joe be a guy who can carry a team? Maybe, I still think so, but hell, my opinion is no more valid than say... GFhockey or yours. . The jury is still out on both of these guys and they both better be ready to play and stay ready to play. If one isn't playing and pouts, he won't ever be the guy. I think they are both handling this pretty well so far. This staff will never make a decision based on fan opinion and they shouldn't. I think they are both capable of being successful.

Bartles did a good job and I expected he would. He is a good QB. For some of you, there is nothing that Mollberg can do that will satisfy you. He played well against both Montana and against Portland. He threw a pick 6 against Montana State but played a decent game. Some of these wide open receivers people talk about are not always the entire story. Bartles missed a wide open reciever in the end zone but was getting pressured. Some games he will make that play and some days he won't. He did make a good throw on the TD but wasn't perfect. It isn't going to be. Leading 2 scoring drives in second half was good, but not a miracle nor unexpected. Remember if Tillman doesn't score we likely don't win. That wouldn't have been Bartle's fault but it would have been Mollberg's fault had he been the QB. . Hd Mollberg been the QB at end of first half and not let the play clock run down before the snap he would have been crucified by some of you. If you guys think musical QB's is anyway to go you are nuts. It didn't work last year. Bartles was the starter last year and too many of you forget he lost the job cuz he wasn't playing well. Joe then lost the job cuz he wasn't playing well. Joe earned the job this fall cuz he was playing well in the spring game and in pre-season. I know a couple of you think practice doesn't matter but it does. Mollberg has survived a rocky start with receivers who were dropping the ball and running poor routes, and an Oline that has struggled. He has also made his own mistakes. What I believe is the mistake too many of you are making is you forget this is a team game and although the QB's are maybe the most important position on the offensive side of the ball but only one position. Joe is starting to look like the QB the coaches and many of us believe he is capable of. Bubba and his staff see the same thing. Bigger upside but still work in progress. If Bartles becomes the QB you can't throw him under the bus either as he adjusts and matures. I don't think we aren't seeing what you see, we just have a different opinion and dont' get pissed if the coaching staff seems to agree with our opinion.

Mollberg is fine. Was ok after game. Hit early when sacked then started getting goofy. McGill looked like knee other kid looked hurt.

Mollberg will be QB next game. He has played well last couple of games and there was nothing exceptional from Bartles that would lead one to believe he will do better. He did a good job. Interesting that some of the experts don't point out the missed guy in end zone that could have been TD or missed open receivers or the possible pick 6 Portland could have had on the out pattern Young dove for and caught. These are always brought up when Mollberg makes same mistake. That stuff happens and is part of the game for both of these guys. What too many seem to miss is that there were no dropped balls yesterday and at least four diving catches. The same guys who wanted to toss Garmin under the bus should have seen the potential he has if you give him some seems to run in. Oline is maybe the most important factor for either of these guys. They both are a lot better when receivers catch the ball. Receivers did great job yesterday. Bottom line is that Mollberg has played well the last two games and other than the pick 6 did decent job against Montana State. Bartels came in and played well yesterday. The problems on offense aren't necessarily the QB. Don't see coaches pulling Mollberg now after he has been playing well. They won't pull him until they know he won't be their QB then he will likely be done.

Don't see him ahead of either Mollberg or Bartels.

Let people know how to find you. Some of us would like to see if you really exist and if so maybe get an autograph or photo op! Students should not miss an opportunity to schmooze with a legend. Make sure you have plenty of beverages for them.

The lack of class and lack of maturity shown by some students or fans has led to the tactics we see now with the crackdown on drinking by administration and lack of judgement and common sense by campus security. We didn't used to scream F-bombs every other word and we didn't tend to be so obnoxious people around us (who didn't require a BAL of 3x legal limit to raise hell and have a good time) got a bit annoyed with the lack of class. We were, and sometimes still are, obnoxious but not to the point young kids or sober people felt uncomfortable. Simple as that. Dont' drink and drive and show some consideration for others. If you can't drink and have a good time without being a !@#!$!, then someone is going to either knock you on your ass or ask the people in authroity to fix it. That is how government works. Instead of dealing with the few who cause the trouble, they make rules or laws that lack common sense. I'm defending or criticizing Kelly, but drinking too much doesn't give people the right to be an ass. If you can't drink without being crude, violent or vulgar, then you aren't able to handle booze and should stick to Diet Mountain Dew or something you can handle. Sad thing is, the campus cops don't seem to distinguish between college kids having a few beers and using common sense, and those being jerks. I will step off the pulpit now.

GFH, I had given you the benfit of the doubt. Whereas I have no doubt you aced that course without having to study, the liver likely develops into a "fatty liver" and gets larger first. With repeated insult from chronic alcohol abuse will develop cirrhosis and scaring leading to a smaller liver. I didn't think you would be quite that far along yet. Alcohol may pickle "your living" as you say but dont' forget at the levels you are talking about it could very well shrink your "pickle". Be careful and stay thirsty my friend.

What's the over under that if someone was going to grill liver and onions for tailgating there would be enough for the whole crowd if they could use your liver

Those two also need to prepare new contracts for our FB staff. Can't afford to lose to assistants cuz we aren't paying top FCS scale.same goes for MBB,WBB,VB. That is the responsibility of Kelly and Faison. They shouldn't need donations for salaries, the donations can be for facilities, uniforms, perks and bonuses etc. lots of work yet to do.

Students need to realize they can make a difference. Need to show up and stay through second half. Tailgaters should let students know we appreciate them coming and share whatever is legal for the students to consume. Kelly and Faison need to get out from behind their desks and rally the students. They should have big Friday night bonfire with bubba, coaches, band and team and free food and legal beverages. Kelly should also let faculty know they need to participate so they can reconnect with alumni. Faison needs to take a look at game programs. Do something there for students. Also should recognize cheerleaders, dance team and band in the program. He should be our biggest cheerleader. He has most of the biggest part already.

Wasn't even close to "most talent". Klancher, Kovash,, Klosterman, Manke and Wahl were all much better. He was one of the most gifted athletes but didn't get it done in film room and blamed coaches for his lack of playing time. He showed signs of potential but was too inconsistent until his senior year when he seemed to realize he was his own biggest barrier to his own success. He put in the time in film room and started to show the potential he had all along. Hanson was better QB until he broke his ankle. Had Marcus done as a freshman and Soph that he did as a Sr. you might have a case.

Ferguson made a great catch on great throw with good play by Dback.