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That is the only kind of iterceptions there are. All 3 guys have made them. Joe is the only one who hasn't thrown one this year of course.

A couple of thoughts. The only turnovers are terrible turnovers. A bad pass is a bad pass whether it's picked or not. A fumble is bad whether it's turnover or recovered by us. Both our QBs have made some terrible passes and fumbled the ball. Both have made some very good passes and had some nice runs. Too often we are forgetting poor blocking, poor routes, interceptions on balls that should have been caught or knocked down. Whomever the QB is we need to protect him and it is past time for our receivers to still have trouble getting open, missing the ball, jumping offsides or running poor routes. I think our line and receivers are doing a better job than last year. They have enough talent to be part a of a team concept and success. At this point in the season we should know we aren't good enough to control the ball on the ground and dominate defensively. Bubba mentioned we need to open things up and I agree.

No, I responded to the comments as to whether or not he should get a shot. I understand Studsrud is out. Were he not, and if we are winning or if he is playing well, you stick with him. I said the same at beginning of season when he was named starter. I said "if Bartels struggles", Joe should get a chance. I don't believe our QB's have won games for us. We have won games with Studsrud at QB. We haven't won games because of him. He has done what asked of him and been adequate. We didn't pee a drop against the Bison and he struggled. We have beaten Wyoming, Drake and Cal Davis. 3 terrible teams. Nice win against Portland and he contributed in all of those wins. I'm talking about a dominant game by a QB where he either dominates as a runner or passer when nothing else is working. We haven't seen that from any of these guys yet. We've lost two games in a row cuz we couldn't protect 14 point leads in the second half. If our QB is struggling I would play any of the other three.

He has recovered from his Achilles injury and it has healed nicely. He wasn't able to participate in spring ball but he progressed through his therapy this spring. Participated in summer workouts. Came in at #3 this fall. I think that is understandable. He was nicked up this fall for a few days but not his repaired Achilles. At #3 he doesn't get reps in practice. I was simply commenting on the derogatory comment from another blogger. If Bartels struggles, then Joe has done enough to get a shot. With his ability as an athlete and his arm strength , it would be a mistake not to know if he can play. Potentially he is the guy who can win games for us even with the receivers we have. I'd like to know if he can do it. I believe he can.

Of course it would come up. Same if the roles were different except a couple of you folks only blame the oline problems or receiver problems when you look at Studsrud. Studsrud fits Bubba's philosophy of conservative, control the ball with a ground game, throw when you have to. He has done what he was asked. If you are satisfied with that, then he is your guy. An athletic running QB? That would be the USD or UNI guys and they throw better. Bartels ran the ball pretty well and has a better arm. Joe has the best arm and can also run the ball. Studsrud made the same poor throws Bartels did Saturday and he fumbled 4 times. Bartels is a less than average runner with a decent arm. The QB isn't losing these games for us, they just aren't winning them. Would Mollberg? Don't know, they decided last December he isn't part of their plan and they haven't given him a shot. If Bartels struggles, I would hope they would give him a chance. He was playing pretty well for us when he got hurt. Only one interception in his last three games and completing 64% of his passes. He has earned the chance to be next man up after the beating he took as a freshman and Soph. I support the coaches and program but if we can't help any of these 3 guys develop then we have a coaching problem for our QBs. Other programs develop kids. We seem to be having trouble developing our QB's and receivers.

That may or may not be true. Either way we should have won both games. We have enough talent to be in the games yet some think we don't have enough to win them. Doesn't make sense. Last two games were winnable with the kids who played. These kids need to learn to finish and they need to learn to win. Same with coaching staff.

Agree. If you pull a kids redshirt he needs to be good enough to help you. Olivera has shown promise. Smith's speed could be helpful at wideout and multiple sets to get him into space to utilize his speed. We need to play these guys to justify pulling red shirts. Too soon to tell. They both have shown promise and could help this year if they continue to develop.

There is a difference in having a bias and being clearly unable to be objective. I didn't know you were such a great judge of my capabilities. I have recommended kids to the coaching staff over the years and haven't been wrong yet. Every kid I told them wouldn't play didn't. Every kid I told them could play contributed and except for 2 linebackers whose careers were cut short, by concussions and family responsibilities, started. The kid they didn't go after started for the Vikings Saturday. Another kid they talked to but didn't offer, went to UND anyway and walked during spring ball and started 4 years. Let's not derail this thread. If want to debate you can PM me. Otherwise I wouldn't waste your time or others when this is about the season not my capabilities. I want the kid the best kid to play. We may disagree on who that is.

And that is why there won't be a change at QB

I get your point. I said at beginning of the season that if Studsrud was the pick, they needed to give him a shot without having to worry that his mistakes will get him pulled right away. I'd love to watch film with some of you guys over a couple of beverages and show you Hardin, Jackson and even Gollady dropped the ball. They were a better group than we have now but last year we were worse. I would also love to watch film of the QB play and the beating Mollberg and Bartels took for two years. Our running game and oline were not as good. Studsrud is the QB and he shouldn't have to worry about getting pulled. He needs to get better as a passer just like Mollberg and Bartels needed to continue to get better. I was just sticking up for the other two guys when a blogger makes a post that he or she thinks is funny but I thought disrespectful to the other two guys.

I couldn't get stats before 2006 but Manke completed 69% of his passes, 19 TDs, 6 Ints with a QB efficiency of 152. Of course I don't know what I'm talking about so why don't you ask Weston Dressler. Had nothing to do with where he was from, he was a very good QB. He was very smart, got through his reads quickly and could reads defenses. He is no longer eligible so let's have you reread my post. I didn't call for Studsrud to be replaced. I answered the question as to why people are discussing the QB play. I may be from DL so I have the advantage of seeing both of these guys through high school. Give Mollberg time to throw and you will see what the colleges coaches who recruited him saw. He also ran the veer and the spread . He also was maybe our best tackler on defense. The kid can play. If you don't see the potential then although you may not have a home town bias I don't think you are a very good judge of talent. I support what Bubba and his staff are doing but it doesn't mean fans including me can't question or disagree with play calling, personnel moves or strategy

Why don't you leave Mollberg out of it. Your happy face might be interpreted as mocking someone. The interceptions thrown the last 2 weeks and the ball into the hands of the Bison defender who dropped it, the poor pitch and the 4-5 fumbles are what people are concerned about. Mollberg took a beating for us for two years as a freshman and sophomore and in his last 3 games completed 64% of his passes with only one interception. You think if we keep winning and shut down opposing passing attacks, Reyes We couldn't run the ball, our oline wasn't playing well and our receivers dropped passes, didn't attack the ball and struggled to run routes. These are excuses that seem valid this year even though we have a better oline, better running game and improved receivers. He has been relegated to third team since he got back and seldom gets reps in practice. Studsrud is only a Sophmore but so were Mollberg and Bartels. Mollberg and Bartels were condemmned for similar mistakes with less of a supporting cast. Studsrud's mistakes are attributed to his inexperience, dropped passes, less than stellar oline play. Mollberg won't see the field this year. Bartels might but only if Studsrud gets hurt and we don't want that. Studsrud may be faster than the other two, and he has run the ball well the last two weeks. There is no way we make a change as long as we are winning. We need to win the next two before we get into the meat of the schedule. I don't know about Ryan but Joe believes in what the coaches are doing and is complimentary about Keaton. He doesn't complain. I'm sure he would like to be playing but it doesn't look like he will get a chance. Let's hope Studsrud gets protection, develops as a passer and we keep improving our running game. If we can play pass defense we should be able to compete in every game. I do agree with those who see the need for a better passing attack. We need to accept the fact that the coaches are not going to replace Studsrud unless he is either hurt or he throws 4-5 interceptions per game for a couple games in a row. Bartles and Mollberg better be ready cuz they will only get one chance.

You are correct, thanks. I even knew that and still typed it wrong. Dave was from Detroit Lakes. He was a hell of a high school athlete. I believe that hit changed his career and he transferred to Concordia.

Leclair played against Montana, Momtana State, NDSU, USD, SDSU, UNI, Arkansas State and UNLV. He was a Linebacker in a 5-2 defense and dominated. He was 6' 3" and 225 lbs and when he hit someone they felt it. NDSU was ranked #1 and had a 30 some game unbeaten streak and the LeClair led defense held them to -18 total yds. AC only touchdown was on an interception pick 6. LeClair hit Steve Nelson so hard that the entire stadium was in awe and Nelson was done. I think he transferred to Concordia to finish his career. Arkansas State was ranked #1 when we played them and Montana was a ranked and had one of the biggest olines in the country at the time. LeClair dominated from sideline to sideline. I've seen all of these guys and there was none better. An All -American, He was drafted by the Bengals and went on to a 10 yr NFL career, Bengals team Captain and pro bowler. The competition was DII but that was today's FCS teams, and teams like Nevada, Boise State, UNLV, San Siego State etc. Certainly better completion than Drake, Wyoming and Cal Davis. Note I said none better. That means each one of these guys dominated in their era. Most dominant in my mind is LeClair. You had to double team him if you wanted to run and he could defend the pass. The other guy at Linebacker was Don McLean who was one of the toughest nastiest LBs in the country. He was an Honorable Mention All- American. Program was in shambles in 1969. Conference runner up in 1970 and conference champs in 1971. One of the reasons I'm not on board with all the excuses about playing young guys and it takes 4-5 yrs to turn a program around.

I hope our kids don't read this crap. Fun to read his stuff, but don't for a minute think he believes any of this. He is playing the media.

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There is no reason to go into any of these games without the idea that we can't win. We need to sustain the running game we saw Saturday and we need a big time upgrade in the passing game. Give Studsrud enough time I think he can be effective. ( yes, I have stated my opinion more than once on the QB position but doesn't mean given the right support Studsrud can't be effective). The oline will be key for both the running game and passing game. We will need to pass to win against the best Big Sky teams. If we can't pass we won't be able to run as well. I think expectations for this year should be higher than 5-6 or 6-5. This is a good coaching staff and the kids believe in what they are trying to do. I disagree we don't have enough talent. We don't have a lot of depth at a number of positions. This weekend is big. We need a win here to let the team and our staff know we can have success at this level now.

he is 81/178 (46%) , with 7 TD and 7 INT. He also has four fumbles in his last three games and threw an INT to a Bison who dropped it. He is slow to get rid of the ball. Other than the Bison and Northern Arizona, he hasn't played the stiffest competition. You don't quit on kids when they get hurt. Mollberg and Bartles were both playing better when they got hurt. The QB doesn't win these games nor lose them by themselves.

I agree. That is something this coaching staff needs to improve on and that is the psychology of coaching and communication. Every kid on this team needs to have a clear understanding of how important they are to the team and how they fit in the the plan. This kid needs to know how he can earn his starting job back so he comes back on Monday with a chip on his shoulder and works his but off to get better and to make the starters better. This is a very good staff but this is an area they need to improve on. We don't have the depth to lose kids. Gene Murphy was the master at this. Even the student managers understood their importance to the team and so did the team understand their importance. The third string guys don't mean anything to most fans but if they feel part of the team and the success of the team they are less likely to quit on day after being demoted. He also needs to have a fair shot at staring again.

Unless you know for sure (and maybe you do), dont post these comments. I have no idea but if you aren't sure enough to go to court with your info don't post this please.

Nothing Klieman said was low class. I read the quotes. He said they were the better defensive team. Well, on Saturday, they were. Fussing about Kleiman shows lack of class or our part. What do you think he should say? He was proud of the way his kids played. Dick Vinger former GFC BB coach used to say "when you win say little, when you lose stay less". There are no excuses, we got beat. I didnt' see dirty play from the stands. As a player, if you think they took a cheap shot at our QB then step in and defend him. The worse thing we can do when we get trounced is to make excuses or complain. The hit on Arneell looked to me like it was illegal. It didn't get flagged by the ref and I would need to see the play in slo mo to know for sure. I didn't think it was was intentional. I understand others disagree and my opinion isn't necessarily correct but it does make us look bad when we keep harping on it to opponenets fans (who are people who have nothing better to do with their lives than post on an opponents blog). It isn't worth fussing with them.

I did play and coach at the collegiate level. Also reffed for 12 years. Illegal hit, but I don't think it was intentional or dirty and I didn't think he went after his knee. I think he started high and went low.. The result is bad but I don't think the AC kid intentionally tried to hurt our guy. I am not a fan of the AC but it sure looks like a back up trying to make a play rather than a dirty play. I think it was illegal whether it was clipping or blocking from behind but there is a difference. I dont' know where th efracture is, but I would guess it will require surgery and hopefully if our athletic training staff will get involved in the kids rehab ( a sore spot with me) he will be ready by spring ball.

Initial hit , the blockers shoulders are above Arnells waist. I don't think this was "dirty". Looks like it could have been blocking from behind. I don't believe this was a cheap shot. Kid trying to make a play. Arnell was trying to turn back into the runner as he was hit from behind by the AC kid. I would like to see the X-ray but I would bet $100 the fracture occurred due to the combination of those forces more so than a direct blow to his knee or leg. I believe at most their guy blocked from behind but this was an unfortunate incident more than a cheap shot. Time to move on. Prayers for a quick recovery.

Playing, watching and coaching in this game for 45 yrs. tailgating was impressive. The fact that virtually everyone of their fans wear yellow is impressive. Pre game atmosphere at UND tailgating at airport was good and AC fans were welcomed. AC fans in their area were hospitable. They have a great thing going pre game. Game atmosphere is great for them. Whomever thought playing this at a neutral site would make a difference hasn't a clue. I'm not sure we had a false start. The noise made it tough to communicate but everyone should have known what this was going to be like and been prepared. I was surprised that the UND fans were able to generate a bit of noise. From the beginning we seemed to be having trouble getting players into position. Offensively we are inept. That isn't just on Rudolph. It is the entire offensive staff and the players. We didn't get anything fixed between Drake and this game and that is concerning. Our receivers struggled to get open and when they were Studsrud couldn't get them the ball or was sacked. Defensively we are ok. We had a couple of missed assignments but overall we were ok. Short fields, for the AC, a great QB for the AC and our defense on the field all day were factors. I don't think it is fair to toss Studsrud under the bus. He was rushed in last year when we had two guys hurt, and he still isn't ready. Mollberg and Bartels were thrown under the bus last year with poor oline play and poor receiver play. I'm not sure why we aren't improving the oline play and I agree our backs aren't always making their reads. Our game planning and play calling was unimaginative but it is tough to game plan if your oline can't beat anyone one on one. Studsrud was like a deer in the headlights. He is still not ready. To his credit he corrected the fumbleitis he had last week and didn't throw an interception. He did throw one pass right to the DB but the DB dropped it. If if Bubba is going to stick with him, then he needs to roll him out and give him some run pass options but Studsrud has got to get through his reads and make a decision quicker. He had no idea yesterday what to do. You can blame the play calling but if you have the wrong play called then the QB needs to check out of that play. I realize their are a lot of "Madden" experts who quit on Mollberg and Bartels but they both get through their reads faster and Mollberg has a much stronger arm. He can make all the throws. Bartels given time, is smart and can also make all the throws given protection. Studsrud is quicker than the other two but he isn't anymore athletic. If he is untouchable as a starter and Bartels and Mollberg are relegated to the bench, this is going to be a long season. Bubba's philosophy of running the ball is great if you have some semblance of a running game. Otherwise it is time to adjust and go with what you have. Don't know if we are good enough to make the switch but I think we go to a spread offense with quick reads and throw the ball no matter who the QB is. I doubt we get sacked anymore than now and it hopefully gives our RBs some room to make plays. We sure as hell aren't dominating anyone on the line of scrimmage now. The philosophy of pounding the ball and playing defense only works if you can pound the ball. We didn't against Drake, we couldn't against the AC. I hope Bubba and staff can make the adjustments to utilize the strengths we have and minimize our weaknesses. We should be seeing progress this year. Next week is huge not only for the conference and the season but for this program moving forward.