jimdahl Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 But, as someone who is very close to the majority of Herald staff writers and editors, I can honestly say there is no vast conspiracy about the nickname, which is what it would take to have someone actually making a conscious intentional effort to turn off certain comment lines and leave others on. I have seen examples where it may have appeared that way, especially to someone who is outside of the newsroom and who can only judge from the outside looking in. And may I say I understand this. I have complained to the newsroom Web guy during these instances, and in many cases the Webmaster on duty at the time, says "Oh sh*t, thanks I forgot. I'll get one up." Other times, I am sure I have missed, and it probably went on with out a comment line. The Web guy a lot of times is a college kid who could care less about the nickname or not as he's not an alum or from here. And he's not getting orders from higher to skew information or not print stuff because it will be damaging to the anti nickname cause. I certainly didn't mean to imply a vast conspiracy, and if I gave that impression, appreciate your giving me the opportunity to clarify that. Believe me, I'm the wrong guy to whom to try to sell conspiracies. My mentioning the Herald was in the context of wanting to note that I think a newspaper opinion page is a friendlier environment for someone who prefers giving a speech to engaging in a debate. If applicable in this case, that would be an indictment of Ms. Hofmann, not of the Herald. Her use of their pulpit doesn't reflect any unique failing of the Herald or its editors any more than a racist posting here reflects any unique failing of SiouxSports.com or me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsdSIOUXfalls Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hmmmm Teeder11 is "very close to the majority of Herald staff writers and editors" "you don't know who I am, at least online... I know many of the more frequent posters on here personally. And you know who I am, and we get a long quite well, though I've never brought up my id. I know a lot of your ids from others who have told me." Sounds like a friendly challenge!! Hmmm?? He/she has previously signed posts as "Fred, Canmore, Alb." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 I did a little research on Sudie Hofmann's column in which she claimed, "One post said that nickname protesters at UND should be run over with a truck." I found one post in a thread called "Protest at Homecoming." I'd get me a junker truck and plow through these gumbas. So it sounds as if Sudie might be on to something, right? Unfortunately, there's this thing called "context" that people like Sudie often ignore. The first thing to keep in mind is that Diggler rarely expects anyone to take his posts seriously. (If I have offended poor Diggler in any way, I deeply and sincerely apologize. ) But the most important part is that anyone who bothered to read the thread would understand that Diggler's post had nothing to with "protestors at UND." It was in reference to this piece by Star-Tribune columnist Katherine Kersten: Bike-riding mob owns the streets of Minneapolis. Diggler was not advocating running over UND protestors with a truck. He was expressing his desire to run down the lawless, bike-riding mob in Minneapolis with a truck. Unfortunately, the subtlety and nuance of Diggler's prose is often too much for the average person to comprehend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I should write an email demanding she issue me a personal apology. She misrepresented my post and what it was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Atticum Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 O jeez, I don't even want to get started with Katherine Kersten over her Critical Mass article . . . Glad you guys are doing the research. I'm glad someone took the time to dig up that post! EDIT: I was going to write more of a reply, but I figured it wasn't appropriate for this discussion. I have started a new thread here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 I should write an email demanding she issue me a personal apology. She misrepresented my post and what it was referring to. She did you wrong. You should sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Class Action Lawsuit!!!! I'm naming everyone from Sudie to Roy to Craig Dahl to Chubbs Arnason to Todd Bouman to Dude Love!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Class Action Lawsuit!!!! I'm naming everyone from Sudie to Roy to Craig Dahl to Chubbs Arnason to Todd Bouman to Dude Love!!!! Hey, I think you might get a law student to help you with your lawsuit. It will probably only cost you the price of a Fighting Sioux hockey jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleah Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Class Action Lawsuit!!!! I'm naming everyone from Sudie to Roy to Craig Dahl to Chubbs Arnason to Todd Bouman to Dude Love!!!! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hey, I think you might get a law student to help you with your lawsuit. It will probably only cost you the price of a Fighting Sioux hockey jersey. Well if I have to risk a Sioux jersey, I'm not sure it's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 A dirty, smelly, fungus-infested, holey sock wouldn't be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 The internet is going to change the world for the better by taking out the bias Mainstream Media and replacing it with the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I did a little research on Sudie Hofmann's column in which she claimed, "One post said that nickname protesters at UND should be run over with a truck." I found one post in a thread called "Protest at Homecoming." So it sounds as if Sudie might be on to something, right? Unfortunately, there's this thing called "context" that people like Sudie often ignore. The first thing to keep in mind is that Diggler rarely expects anyone to take his posts seriously. (If I have offended poor Diggler in any way, I deeply and sincerely apologize. ) But the most important part is that anyone who bothered to read the thread would understand that Diggler's post had nothing to with "protestors at UND." It was in reference to this piece by Star-Tribune columnist Katherine Kersten: Bike-riding mob owns the streets of Minneapolis. Diggler was not advocating running over UND protestors with a truck. He was expressing his desire to run down the lawless, bike-riding mob in Minneapolis with a truck. Unfortunately, the subtlety and nuance of Diggler's prose is often too much for the average person to comprehend. Diggler, were you tryin' to say 'goombah'? I think I'm actually offended...I'm Italian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Diggler, were you tryin' to say 'goombah'? I think I'm actually offended...I'm Italian! I was. I can't even spell correctly. I suck at life. All I can do with my life now is to go to Target and look for racist Christmas toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 North Dakota Fighting Goombahs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So awesome that would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I was. I can't even spell correctly. I suck at life. All I can do with my life now is to go to Target and look for racist Christmas toys. Yea, no doubt. If I asked my six year old how to spell 'goombah,' he'd at least start off with "g" then "o" and "o" before losing it. G-u-m? What the hell was that? I chuckle at names like that. However, I triple dog dare you to call my grandpa a 'goombah' and see what kind of reaction you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So awesome that would be. What the heck is that thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I certainly didn't mean to imply a vast conspiracy, and if I gave that impression, appreciate your giving me the opportunity to clarify that. Believe me, I'm the wrong guy to whom to try to sell conspiracies. My mentioning the Herald was in the context of wanting to note that I think a newspaper opinion page is a friendlier environment for someone who prefers giving a speech to engaging in a debate. If applicable in this case, that would be an indictment of Ms. Hofmann, not of the Herald. Her use of their pulpit doesn't reflect any unique failing of the Herald or its editors any more than a racist posting here reflects any unique failing of SiouxSports.com or me. Jim: Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I had to go up north on business and was out of computer range. No problem at all about your first post that launched my rant. LOL. And no offense taken at all. I appreciate your comments, though, and keep up the great work on this site. I love it. Regards, Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Looks like Sudie should be careful before casting stones. More news from White Cloud State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Looks like Sudie should be careful before casting stones. More news from White Cloud State During the fall semester, swastikas have been found etched on bathroom doors, on the wall of the multicultural center, and in one case a drawing was slipped under a faculty member's office door. On Tuesday a Ku Klux Klan hood and a burning cross symbol drawn on a card was found in the Student Center bathroom. "They are [understandably] frightened," said Potter. "We know that when people feel a lack of safety, learning is impaired. This hurts the ability to focus and learn, and that strikes at the purpose of what we are about." Maybe some should worry about their university first before they butt their noses into some one elses business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Maybe some should worry about their university first before they butt their noses into some one elses business. AMEN!!!!! I don't see any of that happening at UND so is that why we have to change our nickname, maybe we should be called the Huskies then no violence at the campus will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSiouxFan Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 FBI: St. Cloud #1 MN city in 2006 for reported hate crimes. When will the banner be raised? Hate is a constitutionally protected right. The first amendment to the US constitution actually protects one's right to express hate. For example many people hate political corruption and corrupt politicians and in some instances it may even be healthy to vent and verbally express feelings about something or somebody. However, acts of violence against other human beings is a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Hate is a constitutionally protected right. The first amendment to the US constitution actually protects one's right to express hate. For example many people hate political corruption and corrupt politicians and in some instances it may even be healthy to vent and verbally express feelings about something or somebody. However, acts of violence against other human beings is a crime. huh? too much sun fried your brain... completely missed the point and sarcasm. However, since I'm typing this, try honing up with this link: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewey Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 huh? too much sun fried your brain... completely missed the point and sarcasm. However, since I'm typing this, try honing up with this link: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/index.html Every crime is a "hate" crime. People who rape hate and want to control women. People who murder hate the ones being murdered, etc. All crimes of violence are terrible, end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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