star2city Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 With past drug issues, criminal activity, and the lastest scholarship cuts from the NCAA, it is not surprising that Montana State fired its coach, but why did it wait so long? MSU Football Coach Contract Terminated Quite a strongly worded press release: Montana State University Athletic Director Peter Fields announced Friday that the University is exercising its option to terminate the contract of Mike Kramer, MSU Quote
star2city Posted May 19, 2007 Author Posted May 19, 2007 On Thursday: Bozeman Chronicle: Drug ring consisting of former MSU athletes busted According to federal court records, another former MSU football player who goes by the street names of Quote
The Walrus Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I wonder who could be a strong canidate for this job...? hmmmmm....? Quote
GeauxSioux Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I wonder who could be a strong canidate for this job...? hmmmmm....? Don't even think it. Quote
The Walrus Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 Don't even think it. Everything is not as happy as it looks at the old brick stadium..... Quote
Shawn-O Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 Everything is not as happy as it looks at the old brick stadium..... Please elaborate to the extent that you can. Quote
The Walrus Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 Please elaborate to the extent that you can. I believe Dale Lennon loves UND and would have probably retired here and still could.... But there is alot of friction between administration and the coaching staffs, I have never seen the morale as low as it is right now in many areas.... In the past some coaches would not even entertain other options, I believe that climate has now changed.... That is about all I can say..... Quote
GeauxSioux Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I believe Dale Lennon loves UND and would have probably retired here and still could.... But there is alot of friction between administration and the coaching staffs, I have never seen the morale as low as it is right now in many areas.... In the past some coaches would not even entertain other options, I believe that climate has now changed.... That is about all I can say..... With a new president coming in within the next year, would that change the climate? Quote
MplsBison Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 Another thing to note is that MSU has usually run the same 3-4 defense that UND runs. Quote
Goon Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I believe Dale Lennon loves UND and would have probably retired here and still could.... But there is alot of friction between administration and the coaching staffs, I have never seen the morale as low as it is right now in many areas.... In the past some coaches would not even entertain other options, I believe that climate has now changed.... That is about all I can say..... Question, I don't really follow other sports as much as hockey but what is this friction you mention? Just wondering. Is it related to the AD or President of the University? Quote
The Walrus Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 With a new president coming in within the next year, would that change the climate? I believe it is all the Presidents men... Question, I don't really follow other sports as much as hockey but what is this friction you mention? Just wondering. Is it related to the AD or President of the University? When you are the Head Coach of of any program, You want control of your Budget, Staff, and Scheduling......This does not seem to be the case anymore at UND......Some decisions are being made in regards to teams sometimes without even knowledge of the Coaches. Quote
Goon Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 I believe it is all the Presidents men... When you are the Head Coach of of any program, You want control of your Budget, Staff, and Scheduling......This does not seem to be the case anymore at UND......Some decisions are being made in regards to teams sometimes without even knowledge of the Coaches. Gotcha... Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Three separate and distinct comments: 1. Strictly my opinion, but it would be rather poor form to get what you wanted (the school to move to DI-AA/FCS) and then leave before ever playing a game. 2. I run a department. I wish I had control over my budget, staff, and schedules. My decisions are made three layers up for me. That's how it is in large organizations. I have to live with it, but do I like it .... 3. I'm not sure anyone would want the Montana State job right now. Who knows what you're walking in to; and imagine the microscope you'll be under. Quote
ScottM Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 3. I'm not sure anyone would want the Montana State job right now. Who knows what you're walking in to; and imagine the microscope you'll be under. I think Montana State will be under pressure to hire a "name" coach of some sort who has a reputation/experience for running a clean, solid program either at the college or pro ranks. As such, I really doubt you'll see any candidates from the Vikings or Bengals any time soon. Quote
bincitysioux Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 South Dakota head coach Ed Meierkort is one of the 10-11 candidates for the Montana State job. He did a phone interview this week. USD Board Meierkort has done well both at the DIII level and more recently DII the last few years with USD. If he is a candidate on the "short list", I'd have to assume that Dale Lennon should be too. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 A year from today, three years from today: How many scholarships will USD have to work with? How many will Montana State have after APR reductions? How many will North Dakota have? It kind of makes you wonder which really is the best job right now. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 Hopefully this guy is wrong. Jeff Culhane is reporting on KVTK that Ed Meierkort is one of the 7 finalists for the MSU job, Kevin Culhane sounds depressed, near suicide. Kevin Culhane is saying that Dale Lennon is also on of the finalists.. All is not good in the Big Sky and Montana State Quote
Hansel Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 A year from today, three years from today: How many scholarships will USD have to work with? How many will Montana State have after APR reductions? How many will North Dakota have? It kind of makes you wonder which really is the best job right now. 3 years from today UND will have two seasons left of "transition", while MSU will be in an autobid conference (I am guessing both schools will have the same amount of schollies [57-63]). Bozeman vs Grand Forks = no contest I think a good working relationship with the AD would be the biggest impetus for change- I have heard Bunning and Lennon are not exactly "peas and carrots". That being said I think Lennon stays at UND if offered the job or not USD won't do "jack" in FCS- you heard it here first Quote
The Walrus Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 That being said I think Lennon stays at UND if offered the job or not I hope you are right, 2-3 years ago Dale would not even listen to other offers, things have changed Quote
Shawn-O Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I hope you are right, 2-3 years ago Dale would not even listen to other offers, things have changed Maybe he's gotten older and wiser. There is no harm in listening and asking questions. Quote
UND92,96 Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Lennon is a finalist for the Montana State job. [url="http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=39681 Quote
Hansel Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 http://www.msubobcats.com/news.php?sid=h&nid=2068 Finalists to Interview in Bozeman MSU Bobcats Bobcat Football News : 2007-06-01 : Bozeman, MT By MSU Sports Information Montana State came one step closer to filling its football coaching vacancy Three successful head coaches and a long-time Division I assistant comprise the list of finalists for Montana State Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Lennon is a finalist for the Montana State job. [url="http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=39681 Quote
Shawn-O Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Someone get Bubba on the phone in case the unthinkable happens. I hate to say it, but Coach Lennon is a hand in glove fit for what Montana State needs right now. I could see it boiling down to him or Van Diest. Quote
bincitysioux Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Van Diest has to be the fan favorite because he's a known commodity in Montana. The question is will the higher-ups at MSU feel that it would be too big of a jump to go from NAIA to what is often expected to be a Top 20 FCS program? Quote
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