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Posted
6 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

No different than Hibbing immediately ripping of the 2nd place medals after having them placed around their neck.

Seems like Minnesota needs some better coaches, and some parents that actually teach kids a bit of humility.  This ain't the last time those kids are gonna be completely disappointed 

Posted
6 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Would GFC ran the AA gauntlet over 3 days this weekend?  Would Moorhead have run it ND?   

Would either GF school even be AA in MN, without opting up? I'm pretty sure Mahtomedi is larger enrollment-wise than either Central or Red River. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, UND92,96 said:

Would either GF school even be AA in MN, without opting up? I'm pretty sure Mahtomedi is larger enrollment-wise than either Central or Red River. 

Just my opinion but I think GFC could have absolutely made the A, RR big maybe.

Posted
3 hours ago, Wilbur said:

You perked my interest with this, so I researched the ND HS coaches and where they played in college at all levels.

East you have Skarp at UND,  Paranica at UND.  Metcalf at Mankato.  Klein D3 with a few different stops.  Metz D3, Olsonawski at Crookston.

West you have Willert at Omaha, Faragher SCSU, Grubb at Wayne State, Davison played for the Pats and then collegiate hockey at Manitoba, Stillwell D3, Miller at Bottineau, Tschida at Umary, Dora a cup of coffee in the ACHA. Federenko at Duluth. 

I had no idea the head coach at Williston was the captain of the Bulldogs.  You learn something every day. 

Some top jobs around the state held for loooooong stretches by folks with basically no experience at the next levels or true success getting their players to the next level.  

Posted
9 hours ago, Hockeygirl97 said:

The problem is this...North Dakota lacks coaches with the exception of the east...every kid in the west who's parents think the have a chance in literal hell of going somewhere in hockey don't play high school...Last two years in Bismarck, at least 10 kids gone before they touched HS ice...BHB has 900 youth hockey players...now you need to put that money into building a coaching pool that makes the talent stay...from youth to high school...Bismarck High School coaches (Legacy + BHS) aren't getting it done enough to make delusional parents believe it's worth it to play high school hockey at all...not even for a couple years.  Eastern teams have 4 guys that have played college hockey on the bench...we have nowhere near that...time to put our money behind our kids and see where they can go...

I don't believe the underlying goal of the current BHB has any type of goal to get kids to HS ice. It's fair to consider if hockey is actually in their top 3 concerns at this point.

Posted
4 hours ago, Wilbur said:

You perked my interest with this, so I researched the ND HS coaches and where they played in college at all levels.

East you have Skarp at UND,  Paranica at UND.  Metcalf at Mankato.  Klein D3 with a few different stops.  Metz D3, Olsonawski at Crookston.

West you have Willert at Omaha, Faragher SCSU, Grubb at Wayne State, Davison played for the Pats and then collegiate hockey at Manitoba, Stillwell D3, Miller at Bottineau, Tschida at Umary, Dora a cup of coffee in the ACHA. Federenko at Duluth. 

I had no idea the head coach at Williston was the captain of the Bulldogs.  You learn something every day. 

I'm surprised Troy Olsen is still coaching Century.

Bismark has 5 assistant coaches? Seems a bit much.  

Posted
1 hour ago, cberkas said:

I'm surprised Troy Olsen is still coaching Century.

He gets his teams competitive come WDA time for sure and had the split not happened I think he would have hung a banner.

Longest running rumor in Bismarck is that it's "Troy's last year".

Posted
3 hours ago, siouxweet said:

Just my opinion but I think GFC could have absolutely made the A, RR big maybe.

100%. I think that GFC would be a top end class A team.  I think RR would be a competitive class A team.  A combined GF team would be able to be a competitive AA team and would give Moorhead a little competition in section 8!

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Posted
9 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

100%. I think that GFC would be a top end class A team.  I think RR would be a competitive class A team.  A combined GF team would be able to be a competitive AA team and would give Moorhead a little competition in section 8!

Well gfc with half the town divided best Moorhead in Moorhead’s home ice

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8 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

100%. I think that GFC would be a top end class A team.  I think RR would be a competitive class A team.  A combined GF team would be able to be a competitive AA team and would give Moorhead a little competition in section 8!

The reply is to Yzerman19 for convenience of the discussion not as a rebuttal.
 

Both GF schools would be very competitive in MN AA everywhere except the metro lakes conference and between a smattering of other superlative metro area teams that accumulate talent through open enrollment. Even then they would be very credible and competitive. 
 

I would propose that all large ND cities HS teams would be competitive at MN A. 

I would propose that all small ND towns would do well against their peer small towns in MN. 
 

I am not saying these ND teams would win a state MN HS tournament every year (or even often) but they would be in the mix to make the tournament. 
 

the larger point is let’s focus on what ND can do if we all chose to make the whole thing better. 
 

ps - the coaching thing is generally true especially at Minot. The head guy is nothing, Grubb has a decent head but not enough to overcome the head guy, and the third is by all first hand knowledgeable accounts  a dud. 

Posted
4 hours ago, siouxweet said:

Are you going to have this on your headstone?

Will just go with "#GFhockeyrules"

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Posted
14 hours ago, Hockeygirl97 said:

The problem is this...North Dakota lacks coaches with the exception of the east...every kid in the west who's parents think the have a chance in literal hell of going somewhere in hockey don't play high school...Last two years in Bismarck, at least 10 kids gone before they touched HS ice...BHB has 900 youth hockey players...now you need to put that money into building a coaching pool that makes the talent stay...from youth to high school...Bismarck High School coaches (Legacy + BHS) aren't getting it done enough to make delusional parents believe it's worth it to play high school hockey at all...not even for a couple years.  Eastern teams have 4 guys that have played college hockey on the bench...we have nowhere near that...time to put our money behind our kids and see where they can go...

The problem isn't the coaching it's the genetics.  Not to mention, Bismarck is about 3 generations behind in hockey families.  

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