Sioux_Hab-it Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 A couple of guys who left for a year and came back to have decent seasons were Tony Hrkac and, I believe, Teeder Wynne ( or was it Jeff McClean). Quinn Fylling is another. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 A couple of guys who left for a year and came back to have decent seasons were Tony Hrkac and, I believe, Teeder Wynne ( or was it Jeff McClean). true, did hrkac leave though to work on his game or did he have a obligation to team canada that year? i forget? hrkac also had 54 points or so his freshmna year then went to team canada then came back and put on the hrkac circus show. look forward to seeing forney if it all works out! teeder never left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=5811 yes, mclean left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3603 fylling left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=54853 hrkac's sick numbers http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2389 Quote
Sodbuster Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Boy, I'm glad I added McClean's name! I would have had no credibility left. I hope Forney lights it up next year. I would feel so happy for him......and me. Quote
Blackheart Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 true, did hrkac leave though to work on his game or did he have a obligation to team canada that year? i forget? hrkac also had 54 points or so his freshmna year then went to team canada then came back and put on the hrkac circus show. look forward to seeing forney if it all works out! teeder never left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=5811 yes, mclean left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3603 fylling left http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=54853 hrkac's sick numbers http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2389 Didn't Hrkac get kicked off the team after/during freshman year? Rumor was too much extracurricular activities.... Quote
Sodbuster Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Didn't Hrkac get kicked off the team after/during freshman year? Rumor was too much extracurricular activities.... If my memory serves me right, Gino told him to go grow up, and he might let him come back. He came back, obviously grown up. Quote
Sodbuster Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 KVLY just showed Forney scoring a nice goal agaist the Force. Quote
mikejm Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I'd forgotten about Forney's injury-laden year, so yeah, he'd be a junior. I'll bet he wishes he could forget it as well. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Again, pure speculation or thinking aloud by me but ... Forney only played in three games, last being Game 17 of a 35 game regular season, in 2007-2008. His lack of play was due to the nagging effects of surgery from injuries from the 2006-2007 season. Those are key pieces of data given that ... The medical hardship waiver rule paraphrases to: You, due to injury, can have played not in more than 20% of your team's (regular season) games and none played can be in the second half of the season. So, 20% of 35 is seven (and 3<7) and half of 35 is 17.5, so Game 17 would still be the first half of the season (because game 18 would be "the middle" with 17 before and 17 after). Under that rule Forney didn't complete a "season of play". Technically I believe Michael Forney is eligible to apply for a medical hardship waiver and have his "sophomore" status restored. Without that, yes, he'd be a junior. Before someone asks, technically, this season is like a "redshirt" year that football players take. It counts as one of the five (academic) years to complete four seasons of play. A medical hardship waiver grants a sixth year to complete four seasons of play. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Again, pure speculation or thinking aloud by me but ... Forney only played in three games, last being Game 17 of a 35 game regular season, in 2007-2008. His lack of play was due to the nagging effects of surgery from injuries from the 2006-2007 season. Those are key pieces of data given that ... The medical hardship waiver rule paraphrases to: You, due to injury, can have played not in more than 20% of your team's (regular season) games and none played can be in the second half of the season. So, 20% of 35 is seven (and 3<7) and half of 35 is 17.5, so Game 17 would still be the first half of the season (because game 18 would be "the middle" with 17 before and 17 after). Under that rule Forney didn't complete a "season of play". Technically I believe Michael Forney is eligible to apply for a medical hardship waiver and have his "sophomore" status restored. Without that, yes, he'd be a junior. Before someone asks, technically, this season is like a "redshirt" year that football players take. It counts as one of the five (academic) years to complete four seasons of play. A medical hardship waiver grants a sixth year to complete four seasons of play. yeah but i believe a medical redshirt would have had to be granted at some point of that season and not after the fact and if that happened we would have heard about it for sure. Quote
fargosioux Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 from what ive read hes a top tier d man prospect thats a possible 1st rounder in next years draft. hes he real deal and d partners with fellow sioux recruit andrew macwilliam with camrose. lock it down hak and company !! I had the opportunity to watch Olsen and MacWilliam a few weeks ago while on a ski trip in Alberta. Olsen is the real deal! Easily the best player on the ice the night I watched them. If UND can land this kid it's going to be a huge win. MacWilliam looks like a very nice player too. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 I had the opportunity to watch Olsen and MacWilliam a few weeks ago while on a ski trip in Alberta. Olsen is the real deal! Easily the best player on the ice the night I watched them. If UND can land this kid it's going to be a huge win. MacWilliam looks like a very nice player too. olsen is a longshot. i wish we could get him. we have 7 D for next year already. maybe push gleason back a year if we can convince him but from what i heard its a longshot Quote
The Sicatoka Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 yeah but i believe a medical redshirt would have had to be granted at some point of that season and not after the fact and if that happened we would have heard about it for sure. I just don't find that requirement in section 14.2.4 "Hardship Waiver" of the 2008-2009 NCAA DI Manual. Asking for (quoting) "an additional year of competition" makes no sense until you have need for it. Section 14.4.2.3.3 says all you need are the medical records that say "no competition" for the rest of that season. However, I do find that the "20%" rule is now "30%" so I correct myself there. (The no games in the second half of the schedule is the same.) Oh, and who grants that additional year: the conference grants/administers it. Quote
siouxhockeyfan11 Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 I just don't find that requirement in section 14.2.4 "Hardship Waiver" of the 2008-2009 NCAA DI Manual. Asking for (quoting) "an additional year of competition" makes no sense until you have need for it. Section 14.4.2.3.3 says all you need are the medical records that say "no competition" for the rest of that season. However, I do find that the "20%" rule is now "30%" so I correct myself there. (The no games in the second half of the schedule is the same.) Oh, and who grants that additional year: the conference grants/administers it. I think the WCHA likes us better then the NCAA at this point. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 olsen is a longshot. i wish we could get him. we have 7 D for next year already. maybe push gleason back a year if we can convince him but from what i heard its a longshot My scout says he will go the college route - doesn't know which one though. Quote
tnt Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 I believe Kevin McKinnon left and came back playing really well. Quote
USA Hockey Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Hammy is reporting on GPL that Troy Hesketh from Minnetonka committed to UW. He visited here in January. Quote
redwing77 Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Hammy is reporting on GPL that Troy Hesketh from Minnetonka committed to UW. He visited here in January. WCH Blog posted that too. Quote
brianvf Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 If there's one thing that UW needs...it's more recruits. Quote
USA Hockey Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 If there's one thing that UW needs...it's more recruits. Lets see, when do you think he will decommit? Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 so do we know if olsen is considering und as an option if he goes the college route... and who his other options might be? Quote
redwing77 Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 so do we know if olsen is considering und as an option if he goes the college route... and who his other options might be? Just about anywhere, I'd guess. For these Canadians, almost certainly Cornell pops up. Heck, why not UW? They're recruiting everyone else. P.S. I have no idea which schools Olsen is considering, but it seems that Cornell suits stay at home D pretty well. Quote
Sodbuster Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Hammy is reporting on GPL that Troy Hesketh from Minnetonka committed to UW. He visited here in January.So is he that 4th recruit that UND didn't get a commitment from? The one they weren't concerned about after getting the others? Quote
AZSIOUX Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 so do we know if olsen is considering und as an option if he goes the college route... and who his other options might be? ive heard its very slim we get him. doesnt mean we are out for good but chances arent great Quote
Chuck Schwartz Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Just about anywhere, I'd guess. For these Canadians, almost certainly Cornell pops up. Heck, why not UW? They're recruiting everyone else. P.S. I have no idea which schools Olsen is considering, but it seems that Cornell suits stay at home D pretty well. Wisconsin is a strong player for Olsen. In fact, I'd like to say it's at least 50/50 he goes there. Quote
Goon Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 So is he that 4th recruit that UND didn't get a commitment from? The one they weren't concerned about after getting the others? I am not sure there is much room for many more players is there? Quote
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