Prospective Recruits

[siouxforce19]

23 minutes ago, Scratch said:

Ford was pretty good. If I remember correctly Driscoll was the definition of average. I wouldn't say either moved the needle. 

Driscoll had a .937 2nd half save percentage and saved our defense’s asses over and over. How do you think we won a share of the Penrose Cup? He left and the next year the defense went to hell even though it was largely the same. 

[brianvf]

15 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Young is a move that frees up a roster spot in a year. He’ll suit up for every game and give us 10 hard minutes a night. He is out after this season and gives a recruit another year to develop in juniors. A move like that was inevitable and it beats having someone come in that the staff is not sold on long term.

+1

Young arriving as a SR allows guys like Simpson, Schultz, and O'Neill to gain another year of experience in juniors and come in next year more ready to contribute.
I like that move for this year's team.

[scpa0305]

4 hours ago, beastandco said:

He must’ve grown quite a bit. Elite prospects had him measured at 5’8” 146lbs. Granted, he is still 16 and has time to fill out. Who knows when that measurement was taken too.

That may have been at the start of the year…he was (at the very least) 5’10” when I saw him in April. Maybe a little taller.

[.357]

59 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Young is a move that frees up a roster spot in a year. He’ll suit up for every game and give us 10 hard minutes a night. 

Assuming that the final forward is a top-6 guy, would like to hear who your 13-15 forwards are who won't be playing every night.

[brianvf]

9 minutes ago, .357 said:

Assuming that the final forward is a top-6 guy, would like to hear who your 13-15 forwards are who won't be playing every night.

Young, Andrew, TBD

Not that I don’t think that they’ll play at all. We have a lot of younger forwards so Young could be a good boost to a lower line to add some experience while the frosh get up to NCAA speed. 

[beastandco]

10 minutes ago, .357 said:

Assuming that the final forward is a top-6 guy, would like to hear who your 13-15 forwards are who won't be playing every night.

It depends on how many forwards dress. From what I saw last year, Andrew will be sitting a lot unless he had a good offseason. The other forward sitting will be a freshman that might be banged up or is struggling. I think Young will play most nights, at least. Opening night, I would guess that Klee and Andrew are sitting out with 13 forwards dressed.

[I Ranger]

25 minutes ago, beastandco said:

It depends on how many forwards dress. From what I saw last year, Andrew will be sitting a lot unless he had a good offseason. The other forward sitting will be a freshman that might be banged up or is struggling. I think Young will play most nights, at least. Opening night, I would guess that Klee and Andrew are sitting out with 13 forwards dressed.

Please no more of this! With our D core, we should see a lineup of 12 and 7 each night. Hopefully easing in Laurilla and probably working in all 8 throughout the year. 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

2 hours ago, Scratch said:

Ford was pretty good. If I remember correctly Driscoll was the definition of average. I wouldn't say either moved the needle. 

My recollection is Ford was very responsible in our end and won key draws, but I may be confusing him with Michaud (the gold standard for transfers).

[siouxforce19]

4 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

My recollection is Ford was very responsible in our end and won key draws, but I may be confusing him with Michaud (the gold standard for transfers).

Ford was the NCHC Defensive Forward of the Year when he was here. Didn’t score a ton of goals but was a pretty consistent producer on team that admittedly didn’t have a ton of offensive weapons. 

[Scratch]

2 hours ago, siouxforce19 said:

Driscoll had a .937 2nd half save percentage and saved our defense’s asses over and over. How do you think we won a share of the Penrose Cup? He left and the next year the defense went to hell even though it was largely the same. 

Ah now I remember, he was atrocious first half then lights out after Christmas. As far as I’m concerned, conference championships stopped existing when Pegula killed the golden goose. 6, 7, 8 team leagues don’t require a great team to win, Minnesota and UND show it like every other year

[stoneySIOUX]

7 minutes ago, Scratch said:

Ah now I remember, he was atrocious first half then lights out after Christmas. As far as I’m concerned, conference championships stopped existing when Pegula killed the golden goose. 6, 7, 8 team leagues don’t require a great team to win, Minnesota and UND show it like every other year

Interesting take. Back in the day, the WCHA had Michigan Tech, Mankato, and Alaska Anchorage. The NCHC has Miami. Hard to argue against the depth of the Big 10 right now, either. 

[brianvf]

2 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Hard to argue against the depth of the Big 10 right now, either. 

Especially this upcoming year. There’s gonna be some games with a ton of high skill players playing against each other. Should be entertaining. 

[scpa0305]

1 hour ago, beastandco said:

It depends on how many forwards dress. From what I saw last year, Andrew will be sitting a lot unless he had a good offseason. The other forward sitting will be a freshman that might be banged up or is struggling. I think Young will play most nights, at least. Opening night, I would guess that Klee and Andrew are sitting out with 13 forwards dressed.

Really? If we get another ball player, I highly doubt he’s in the lineup. At least to start the year and someone else would have to royally play poorly. We have multiple guys that need to play over him.

[beastandco]

8 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Really? If we get another ball player, I highly doubt he’s in the lineup. At least to start the year and someone else would have to royally play poorly. We have multiple guys that need to play over him.

Im going to walk this back a little bit. I think we play Jubenvill or Laurila as our extra skater instead of an extra forward. 
 

I do think Young starts the year playing a limited 4th line role until an underclassman plays into that role. Who knows, maybe Young plays well enough to stay in the lineup. 
 

If UND gets a legitimate top 9 forward, Young will be watching a lot of games in the family section. I see Littler as our third line center or right wing, depending on the position of the last forward.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/schlossman-does-college-hockeys-recruiting-window-need-some-tweaks

40% of 8/1 commits never ending up where they announced is crazy. The infamous local 3 plus Singleton were the rush commits UND had prior to the new rule.

[hockeytherapy13]

3 hours ago, I Ranger said:

Please no more of this! With our D core, we should see a lineup of 12 and 7 each night. Hopefully easing in Laurilla and probably working in all 8 throughout the year. 

100%
 

This is some if the best depth we’ve had at D in a long time. 2021 team has great depth too but this season will be exceptional. Have to go with 7D each night. 

[scpa0305]

11 hours ago, beastandco said:

Im going to walk this back a little bit. I think we play Jubenvill or Laurila as our extra skater instead of an extra forward. 
 

I do think Young starts the year playing a limited 4th line role until an underclassman plays into that role. Who knows, maybe Young plays well enough to stay in the lineup. 
 

If UND gets a legitimate top 9 forward, Young will be watching a lot of games in the family section. I see Littler as our third line center or right wing, depending on the position of the last forward.

Agree on the 7 d (Laurila has to play…and should) assuming we’re healthy. Not entirely there on the F depth chart. Not sure who he plays over. This looks like a fairly cut and dry depth and to me.

[scpa0305]

10 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/schlossman-does-college-hockeys-recruiting-window-need-some-tweaks

40% of 8/1 commits never ending up where they announced is crazy. The infamous local 3 plus Singleton were the rush commits UND had prior to the new rule.

Another great Schloss article….agree on all front. Especially pushing the commitment age back a year. Teams are still missing late bloomers. Now that the CHL is wide open, committing later makes way more sense for both parties involved.

[Scratch]

12 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Interesting take. Back in the day, the WCHA had Michigan Tech, Mankato, and Alaska Anchorage. The NCHC has Miami. Hard to argue against the depth of the Big 10 right now, either. 

WCHA had its doormats for sure but it had four blue bloods which made it a challenge to win every year. Now all UND should have to do to win is catch Denver on an off year. I'd agree that the big ten is looking more legitimate, in large part because of fucking Pegula money round 2.

[atxsioux]

43 minutes ago, Scratch said:

WCHA had its doormats for sure but it had four blue bloods which made it a challenge to win every year. Now all UND should have to do to win is catch Denver on an off year. I'd agree that the big ten is looking more legitimate, in large part because of fucking Pegula money round 2.

The pegula money helps. BUT, Maybe it's just me, I've never really been sold on Guy Gadowski. Will be interesting now that the expectations for him as a coach doubled dramatically this offseason.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Are we really downplaying the conference that's won 7 of the last 9 national championships?

[nascar99]

14 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Are we really downplaying the conference that's won 7 of the last 9 national championships?

To use a simplified analogy, the blue chippers that commit early, but are only around for 1-2 years are the Corvette, Mustang, Porsche types of the hockey world: incredibly sexy, worth the hype, fun to have for a period of time, but aren't all weather, all situation type of vehicles. The 3-4 year culture guys who have talent are the F-150 and Silverado types of the hockey world: not super sexy & don't always get early attention, but durable, all situation/weather type vehicles & get the job done.

To win National Championships, you need those F-150s and Silverados in your lineup, which the NCHC typically has more of compared to the B1G & Hockey East. I do think the dynamic will shift a bit, who knows how much, with CHLers now NCAA eligible.

[SiouxForever]

With school around the corner, what recruit or names (speculative ) of recruits are going to fill up that last spot? 

Time is ticking. 

[Scratch]

14 minutes ago, SiouxForever said:

With school around the corner, what recruit or names (speculative ) of recruits are going to fill up that last spot? 

Time is ticking. 

My guess is a depth nobody transfer

[Scratch]

2 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Are we really downplaying the conference that's won 7 of the last 9 national championships?

Great conference, but doesn't hold a candle to the former