2025 UND football

[fightingsioux4life]

8 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

"Some bumps" is just fine, just can't play D like.......

I think the defense will be improved, once everyone gets used to the change in scheme and the portal additions assimilate into the program.

[forksandspoons]

4 hours ago, gundy1124 said:

"Some bumps" is just fine, just can't play D like.......

Too many years in a row of this 

[CMSioux]

6 hours ago, siouxfan512 said:

Can't even say I looked that closely at the list. I'm just not prepared to say we do belong on it because I am a fan or because I see a ton of potential in this team. To deserve something, you better earn it, and this team hasn't earned anything yet.

Let's looks at last year:

- Played tough against Iowa State, but lost

-Nice win against Montana

-Ended the season with 5 straight losses including Youngstown and Indiana State.

 

5-7 never deserves to be in the discussion for top 25 (unless maybe you are UNI). They dug a big hole, now they have to get out of it. I for one absolutely think they can get it done and that it doesn't all need to happen in the first season. There are some exciting things happening with recruiting, facilities, etc. But nobody is putting a poll together based on the potential of a 5-7 team with a new coach (unless maybe its coach prime 😂)

 

In general, I would say, polls don't matter anyway ... except that where you start makes it tough to move up, but if you win some key games ... nothing is off the table. I'm just excited for camp to get going so we can hear how some of these guys are looking, especially at QB.

there are schools on that list that finished worse than 5-7. they always say you have to earn it. Tell me how Youngstown State and Sacramento State "earned' it. 

[Sioux>Bison]

3 hours ago, CMSioux said:

there are schools on that list that finished worse than 5-7. they always say you have to earn it. Tell me how Youngstown State and Sacramento State "earned' it. 

Or southern Illinois 

[UNDTIM20]

[Und Princess]

1 minute ago, UNDTIM20 said:

Yessssss!!! We made the list for best returning running backs!!! Let's start stealing the top spots in the Rankings!!!

[forksandspoons]

5 minutes ago, UNDTIM20 said:

If he stays healthy, he’s easily top 10

[fightingsioux4life]

15 hours ago, CMSioux said:

there are schools on that list that finished worse than 5-7. they always say you have to earn it. Tell me how Youngstown State and Sacramento State "earned' it. 

Or how Northern Iowa gets credit for "quality losses" come playoff selection time.

[AJS]

I really do appreciate the type of coverage that Miller and UND360 deliver. They don't blow smoke, and they tell it like it is. The roster is not close is what we've gathered from them. I would really like to clarify. Not close to what? Championship caliber? 2nd Round type of team? Playoff caliber? In comparison to last year?

I'm going to fill in the gaps a bit from what I'm hoping they mean, which is not close to championship caliber. Which I think is accurate, but I think they are really undervaluing a few things.

• State of the FCS. IMO, this will be the weakest the elite of the FCS has ever been. NDSU most likely will win it all again this year, this won't be a Top 10 team they've had in the D1 era. Each level (Top 4, Top 8, Top 15) will be the weakest it's ever been.
• UND's off-season (compared to other MVFC teams). I think they did the best retaining starters out of any team. Fine with portal additions. Compared to previous years UND teams, this was the best off-season they've had in the portal era. 
• Coaching. This is where I'm buying the most stock. From X's and O's to team mentality. It's going to be a night and day difference. Not only is Schmidt the real deal, but I think we'll also find out that Bubba was incredibly bad at it all. 
• Defense. No detail needs to be given, really. The last 3 years have been beyond embarrassing. 

 

Do I think they'll compete for a National Championship? Probably not, but also, we're not looking at a handful of teams that are going to be head and shoulders above the rest like we have in the past.

 

[Und Princess]

4 minutes ago, AJS said:

I really do appreciate the type of coverage that Miller and UND360 deliver. They don't blow smoke, and they tell it like it is. The roster is not close is what we've gathered from them. I would really like to clarify. Not close to what? Championship caliber? 2nd Round type of team? Playoff caliber? In comparison to last year?

I'm going to fill in the gaps a bit from what I'm hoping they mean, which is not close to championship caliber. Which I think is accurate, but I think they are really undervaluing a few things.

• State of the FCS. IMO, this will be the weakest the elite of the FCS has ever been. NDSU most likely will win it all again this year, this won't be a Top 10 team they've had in the D1 era. Each level (Top 4, Top 8, Top 15) will be the weakest it's ever been.
• UND's off-season (compared to other MVFC teams). I think they did the best retaining starters out of any team. Fine with portal additions. Compared to previous years UND teams, this was the best off-season they've had in the portal era. 
• Coaching. This is where I'm buying the most stock. From X's and O's to team mentality. It's going to be a night and day difference. Not only is Schmidt the real deal, but I think we'll also find out that Bubba was incredibly bad at it all. 
• Defense. No detail needs to be given, really. The last 3 years have been beyond embarrassing. 

 

Do I think they'll compete for a National Championship? Probably not, but also, we're not looking at a handful of teams that are going to be head and shoulders above the rest like we have in the past.

 

I also love the work Tom Miller and UND Football 360 do!!! Both do a PHENOMENAL job!!!

[CMSioux]

10 minutes ago, AJS said:

I really do appreciate the type of coverage that Miller and UND360 deliver. They don't blow smoke, and they tell it like it is. The roster is not close is what we've gathered from them. I would really like to clarify. Not close to what? Championship caliber? 2nd Round type of team? Playoff caliber? In comparison to last year?

I'm going to fill in the gaps a bit from what I'm hoping they mean, which is not close to championship caliber. Which I think is accurate, but I think they are really undervaluing a few things.

• State of the FCS. IMO, this will be the weakest the elite of the FCS has ever been. NDSU most likely will win it all again this year, this won't be a Top 10 team they've had in the D1 era. Each level (Top 4, Top 8, Top 15) will be the weakest it's ever been.
• UND's off-season (compared to other MVFC teams). I think they did the best retaining starters out of any team. Fine with portal additions. Compared to previous years UND teams, this was the best off-season they've had in the portal era. 
• Coaching. This is where I'm buying the most stock. From X's and O's to team mentality. It's going to be a night and day difference. Not only is Schmidt the real deal, but I think we'll also find out that Bubba was incredibly bad at it all. 
• Defense. No detail needs to be given, really. The last 3 years have been beyond embarrassing. 

 

Do I think they'll compete for a National Championship? Probably not, but also, we're not looking at a handful of teams that are going to be head and shoulders above the rest like we have in the past.

 

Another thing is that teams knew how to prepare for Bubba's teams and the strong to comparable teams did. They won't have any tape on this year's team until deeper in the season. Losses to lower tier schools are flipped (like Youngstown State and Indiana State last year) and we are 7-5, squeak out one more and we are back. 

[Und Princess]

1 minute ago, CMSioux said:

Another thing is that teams knew how to prepare for Bubba's teams and the strong to comparable teams did. They won't have any tape on this year's team until deeper in the season. Losses to lower tier schools are flipped (like Youngstown State and Indiana State last year) and we are 7-5, squeak out one more and we are back. 

Well said my friend 

[UNDTIM20]

3 hours ago, forksandspoons said:

If he stays healthy, he’s easily top 10

I couldn’t agree more! Watched the replay of the NDSU game on Midco the other day and it just baffled me to why he didn’t see the field until the end of the 1st quarter. Completely different game when he is pounding the rock. 

[siouxfan512]

19 hours ago, CMSioux said:

there are schools on that list that finished worse than 5-7. they always say you have to earn it. Tell me how Youngstown State and Sacramento State "earned' it. 

Again, I didn't look that closely at the list and I don't care what teams were on it. I'm just saying, UND was not good, what have we done to earn it apart from the offseason changes? Which I personally think will pay off big time for us! I think we will be good enough, my point was just that from the outside looking in, we have done nothing to be considered for that .

[MoSiouxFan]

51 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Again, I didn't look that closely at the list and I don't care what teams were on it. I'm just saying, UND was not good, what have we done to earn it apart from the offseason changes? Which I personally think will pay off big time for us! I think we will be good enough, my point was just that from the outside looking in, we have done nothing to be considered for that .

I hear what you're saying, but polls are primarily forward looking, not backward looking.  And they're great for jawboning, but not worth a whole lot else.

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, UNDTIM20 said:

I couldn’t agree more! Watched the replay of the NDSU game on Midco the other day and it just baffled me to why he didn’t see the field until the end of the 1st quarter. Completely different game when he is pounding the rock. 

Think he had a few dings so they were trying to limit the hits. It worked out. 

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said:

Again, I didn't look that closely at the list and I don't care what teams were on it. I'm just saying, UND was not good, what have we done to earn it apart from the offseason changes? Which I personally think will pay off big time for us! I think we will be good enough, my point was just that from the outside looking in, we have done nothing to be considered for that .

I agree however the guys running the podcase from their basements have proven they like to diss UND whenever possible. As I shared there are teams with worse records than us in that list - the only thing they have done to elevate themselves is on paper - and not being UND. Also agree that pre-season polls means nothing they are just filling time.