2024-25 ND High School Hockey

[Brim006]

3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

First of all it was a question...not a comment but I won't digress into your understanding of grammer. From a HS player experience was just throwing it out there. I watched the ND hockey tournament. 1-10 is was a 3 and I went from a 2 to a 3 becausei live in ND. Represent!. Watched the MN tournament and 1-10 it was a 10. 

Lolol. Make your kids ditch their friends, move your family to a different town and school, and pay higher taxes all just for the off chance of your kid potentially playing in a better state tournament maybe 1 time out of 3 years at best. Sounds like a great plan. 

[Wilbur]

18 minutes ago, ChadR said:

When/where are the Team ND & Sioux Falls Power games this weekend?

This weekend in Sioux Falls.  Normally the Power play at the Scheels Iceplex.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, Brim006 said:

Lolol. Make your kids ditch their friends, move your family to a different town and school, all just for the off chance of potentially playing in a better state tournament maybe 1 time out of 3 years at best. Sounds like a great plan. 

Just bought it up as a point of conversation. Have absolutely no dog in this fight. At the end of the day the ND hockey tournament is meh on a good year. Good by RR and GFC to keep lifting the trophies though. 

[gfhockey]

In gf we expect trophies

[sioux rube]

35 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

This weekend in Sioux Falls.  Normally the Power play at the Scheels Iceplex.

Anyway to watch?

[Brim006]

19 hours ago, skateshattrick said:

I disagree. I'm from Grand Forks and have a lot of pride for Grand Forks, but even if you combined the high schools, Grand Forks very rarely produces top Division 1 talent like Moorhead--GFRR and Central do not have a player nearly as good as Mason Kraft, let alone Brooks Cullen. Historically, Moorhead has had better players as well. Ryan Kraft, Chris Vandevelde, Brian Lee, John Lee, Matt Cullen, Mark Cullen, Joe Cullen, Jason Blake, Will Borgen, Ethan Frisch, etc. Grand Forks has had some really good players as well with Grant and Ryan Potulny, Jeff and Jay Panzer, Paul LaDue and many others, but Moorhead constantly produces D1 talent and quite a few pros. Moorhead would win the majority of the games with a combined GFHS team. 

Hmmm, I’d have to disagree there. “Grand Forks very rarely produces D1 talent like Moorhead”. I think grand forks kids just fly under the radar more for whatever reason. I think you’ll be surprised to hear there are CURRENTLY 12 grand forks kids playing D1…that’s pretty friggin impressive for a town of 60k with 2 smallish schools. I doubt Moorhead has that many? Probably more like 5-7? But I would guess Moorhead likely has more NHL players all time though?

Here’s a list off the top of my of recent+current GF kids who have played D1 since 2010. Let me know if I missed any…there are a ton. 

Grant Johnson, Luke Johnson (NHL), Casey Purpur, Paul Ladue (NHL), Jon Lizotte (NHL), Montgomery (current),Montgomery (current), Kunz (current), Caulfield, Casey Johnson, William Lawson-Body(current), Will Howard(current), Cole Hanson(current), Brandon Holt (current), Kaleb Johnson(current), Mason Salquist (current), Lucas Kanta (current), Tucker Hodgsen(current), Panzer was born in GF but we won't count him (current), Mikey Coleman (next year), Cole Spicer, Johnny Simonson,  Alex Simonson, Eric Meland, and many more. 

[Wilbur]

10 hours ago, sioux rube said:

Anyway to watch?

Maybe Livebarn?  

[Oxbow6]

20491 were in attendance for the Spuds/Stillwater game.....new MN state tournament attendance record. Nothing to see there though when you can play in front of 1247 at the Ralph.

[Brim006]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

20491 were in attendance for the Spuds/Stillwater game.....new MN state tournament record. Nothing to see there though when you can play in front of 1247 at the Ralph.

No one in their right mind would argue against it being an unbelievable tournament or atmosphere. It's the biggest and best tournament in the country by a long shot. I just think it's silly when people float the idea of ditching their communities to move across the river based on the idea of a single tournament. 1- because it's not a given, and most MN high school hockey players will never experience it 2. I dislike the importing and transferring school's culture that we see today. 

[Wilbur]

10 hours ago, sioux rube said:

Anyway to watch?

Looks like there are 3 streams at the Scheels IcePlex in Sioux Falls, so should be able to watch the games there.

According to the Sioux Falls Website

14U:
Friday-1 PM, Saturday 2:15 PM, Sunday 12:30 PM (If Necessary)

150:
Friday-3:15PM, Saturday 5:00 PM, Sunday 10:15 AM (If Necessary)

16U:
Friday-5:30PM, Saturday 7:15 PM, Sunday 12:30 PM (If Necessary)

 

[Johnny Five]

24 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

No one in their right mind would argue against it being an unbelievable tournament or atmosphere. It's the biggest and best tournament in the country by a long shot. I just think it's silly when people float the idea of ditching their communities to move across the river based on the idea of a single tournament. 1- because it's not a given, and most MN high school hockey players will never experience it 2. I dislike the importing and transferring school's culture that we see today. 

I used to think this way back in my parenting youth.  Then I found out that sports are cut throat and families are selfish.  There's no such thing as old school loyalty when it comes to sports and particularly, hockey.  Sometimes it's hard to mind your own bobber but that's truly the world we live in.

[Brim006]

10 hours ago, Brim006 said:

Hmmm, I’d have to disagree there. “Grand Forks very rarely produces D1 talent like Moorhead”. I think grand forks kids just fly under the radar more for whatever reason. I think you’ll be surprised to hear there are CURRENTLY 12 grand forks kids playing D1…that’s pretty friggin impressive for a town of 60k with 2 smallish schools. I doubt Moorhead has that many? Probably more like 5-7? But I would guess Moorhead likely has more NHL players all time though?

Here’s a list off the top of my of recent+current GF kids who have played D1 since 2010. Let me know if I missed any…there are a ton. 

Grant Johnson, Luke Johnson (NHL), Casey Purpur, Paul Ladue (NHL), Jon Lizotte (NHL), Montgomery (current),Montgomery (current), Kunz (current), Caulfield, Casey Johnson, William Lawson-Body(current), Will Howard(current), Cole Hanson(current), Brandon Holt (current), Kaleb Johnson(current), Mason Salquist (current), Lucas Kanta (current), Tucker Hodgsen(current), Panzer was born in GF but we won't count him (current), Mikey Coleman (next year), Cole Spicer, Johnny Simonson,  Alex Simonson, Eric Meland, and many more. 

From what I can find, it appears Edina only has about 6 kids playing D1 currently. I thought it would be far more. But I'd imagine there are some other schools that have more, but so far I cannot find any schools that have more than GFC+RR who combine for 12 current. 

Minot currently has 5, but only 3 of those played at least 1 year at MHS. Still more than I would've guessed. 

[UND1983]

11 hours ago, gfhockey said:

In gf we expect trophies

Well yah every other team in the state sucks 99% of the time

[UND1983]

51 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

20491 were in attendance for the Spuds/Stillwater game.....new MN state tournament attendance record. Nothing to see there though when you can play in front of 1247 at the Ralph.

Grand Forks is a HOCKEY TOWN!!!  

[yzerman19]

I don't think it's for the State tourney alone that people cross the river, but more on the perception of strength of coaching and competition. If EGF were Moorhead and playing AA with a 3 time Stanley Cup champ on the bench, I think you'd see a TON of movement.  The tax delta isn't that significant.  For most people less than $1000/year.  
 

if you are good enough, they will find you, but coaching and competition are huge parts of becoming good enough.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

20491 were in attendance for the Spuds/Stillwater game.....new MN state tournament attendance record. Nothing to see there though when you can play in front of 1247 at the Ralph.

how many would show up for the ND title game if attendance was free and hot dogs were 1 buck and cokes were 2 bucks?

try it..see what happens

[yzerman19]

On the topic of Team ND vs SF Power, at the bantam major level tickets punched to Nationals so far are:

little Caesars, Blue Ox, Dallas Stars Elite, Pittsburgh Pens Elite, California Goldrush, and Florida Alliance.  

[Oxbow6]

26 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

how many would show up for the ND title game if attendance was free and hot dogs were 1 buck and cokes were 2 bucks?

try it..see what happens

20000 but drop a zero

The NDHSAA killed their golden goose when they wrecked the Class B BBB tournament so why not try your gimmick.

[Frozen4sioux]

26 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

I don't think it's for the State tourney alone that people cross the river, but more on the perception of strength of coaching and competition. If EGF were Moorhead and playing AA with a 3 time Stanley Cup champ on the bench, I think you'd see a TON of movement.  The tax delta isn't that significant.  For most people less than $1000/year.  
 

if you are good enough, they will find you, but coaching and competition are huge parts of becoming good enough.

Its the inborn respect and exposure that is available in the MSHSL as well. The Tourney is just the tip and as someone stated in the grand scheme very few players make it there for that spotlight but the overall exposure and RESPECT the MSHSL gets compared to the EDC or my gawd the WDA is not even close to measurable. 

The experience of playing in front of a Section 8 game crowd and that attention dwarfs anything the NDHSAA can offer. The only thing close to that are GFC/GFRR games. Nothing else comes close. ......    back in the day some cross town BHS/ Century games may have gotten that feel but these days.. its not there.

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

26 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

20000 by take away a zero

what's the best venue for this tourney? scheels?

[ILOVEHOCKEY15]

North Dakota High School needs to move to two classes for hockey plain and simple. 4 teams from each class make the state tournament. That way the GF/Fargo schools can schedule 10 non-conference games vs. Minnesota opponents. Could bring back the Jason Stadstad Holiday Classic at the Ralph and try and get more teams to come. I don't think the Schwan Cup exists anymore. One can dream.

[Frozen4sioux]

48 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

I don't think it's for the State tourney alone that people cross the river, but more on the perception of strength of coaching and competition. If EGF were Moorhead and playing AA with a 3 time Stanley Cup champ on the bench, I think you'd see a TON of movement.  The tax delta isn't that significant.  For most people less than $1000/year.  
 

if you are good enough, they will find you, but coaching and competition are huge parts of becoming good enough.

Nail on head on the competition and coaching as it relates to becoming good enough 

Back in the day I was solving the world's problems (2am lobby beers) with a couple MHD youth coaches and college coach and we talked about how much that matters, They talked about how Bismarck was going to benefit from some of the few second-generation kids from the coach dads that had actual real experience (college -d1-pro) .. they were right not only did their kids benefit but the culture competition and drive to compete drove those other first-generation kids to be better as well.

.....then they broke out their coaching email list and showed the dozens and dozens of former college- d1-and career type pros they had in their youth program, some 3rd and 4th generation,    it matters and just helps those programs so much.  Grand Forks has that benefit as well.  Almost all of those MN community programs have a proportional aspect of that generational experience that helps the youth.

Nobody else in ND does,  it might get there but its generations away, but 99% of the time the ignorance of useless experience gets in the way of what those programs needing (i.e. Bismarck running off a actual hockey guy with parents screaming about thats not how they did it in their day)

 

 

[gfhockey]

33 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

20000 but drop a zero

The NDHSAA killed their golden goose when they wrecked the Class B BBB tournament so why not try your gimmick.

Agreed 

[gfhockey]

Just now, gfhockey said:

Agreed 

Watched the girls stuff last weekend talk about dead enviornemnys

 

minot state dome use to be packed for those

[SIOUXFAN97]

45 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

20000 but drop a zero

The NDHSAA killed their golden goose when they wrecked the Class B BBB tournament so why not try your gimmick.

haha so my great ideas are gimmicks?  i take offense to that!!