Fan247247 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 3/17/2025 at 7:18 PM, NDPROUD said: Agreed. Scoring is one thing, but 1.2 assists, 3.7 turnovers per game does not reflect a team player. Hmm thats a lot of turnovers… Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Fan247247 said: Hmm thats a lot of turnovers… You did not just compare her to Caitlin Clark. Assist to turnover ratio for her career of 1.79. Kiera’s is 0.33…. 4 Quote
tnt Posted March 19 Posted March 19 55 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: You did not just compare her to Caitlin Clark. Assist to turnover ratio for her career of 1.79. Kiera’s is 0.33…. You know when you see something like this that this new poster can't look at things objectively. Joining a message board to defend screams that already. Not saying there aren't points to be made in Pemberton's regard though. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 53 minutes ago, tnt said: You know when you see something like this that this new poster can't look at things objectively. Joining a message board to defend screams that already. Not saying there aren't points to be made in Pemberton's regard though. Yeah I like Pemberton and wish she wouldn’t transfer. Just calling out an asinine comparison. 1 Quote
planet2county Posted March 19 Posted March 19 The point was a leading scorer will probably have a lot of turnovers. They will also be a focal point of the opposing team's defensive game plan. The poster was not saying Pemberton was on the same level as Clark. As for assists per game, Schiller was at 2.9 and Pemberton was at 1.2. Schiller was at 3.1 turnovers per game. Quote
ND-fan Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 Pemberton has been good player and her statistics has some flaws but remember she got these numbers in her freshman and sophomore years on not very good teams until end of this season. This was on very young teams as well but numbers have gotten better each year which will probably continue to improve in her junior and senior seasons. She is offensive minded but look at her last two games her defensive skills are improving and she always has had knack to rebound. The bottom line she is player we thought she could become. The reason for transfer we don’t know yet but I have to believe she wants to play on team that has chance to reach dance. This looking at us seriously we’re not yet close to reaching that goal in next two years especially AD just missed chance to make change or commitment that we wanted this program to achieve performance he expects and commit to have winning program. If I were player like Pemberton I would want program that was committed to achieving high expectations and right program you feel that can reach your goals. This why I think she chose us in beginning she needed chance at division I level and our past history we had been program expected to have winning program. Mallory sold this I bet on this when recruiting her but she being in the program she could see this is not possible as program is now being managed or demanded to become winner. There are expectations of players to develop into top players which she has shown she is on pace to do this. Chaves needed to step up after the season put forth what expectations and how we’re going to get to winning program in the very near future not just keep hoping things might improve because we’re no closer to winning in this conference than we first joined and realistically we’re even farther from that goal now. We need administration to step forward demand same level performance the school has done academics and growth of UND. Quote
NDPROUD Posted Sunday at 01:05 PM Posted Sunday at 01:05 PM On 3/19/2025 at 7:11 AM, tnt said: You know when you see something like this that this new poster can't look at things objectively. Joining a message board to defend screams that already. Not saying there aren't points to be made in Pemberton's regard though. Objectively? The idea Pemberton can be compared to Clark, now that's totally insane. They are two completely different players. Clark plays with a team mentality, her assists prove that...Pemberton plays for herself. She turns the ball over all because of selfishness, not trying to assist one of her teammates to increase chances of scoring for the team. Clark turns the ball over trying to get the ball to her teammates. She's constantly looking for opportunties to score for the team, even if it's to assist her teammates to score. Clark makes her whole team look good with her selfless style of play. Quote
ND-fan Posted Sunday at 11:58 PM Author Posted Sunday at 11:58 PM Chaves or Armacost is making change at hockey program for missing the playoffs for second straight year and still have winning program. Women’s basketball goes 10 years and has one season above 500 in last 7 or 8 seasons and this coach has record of 37% in five years survives without being let go how does this work. On top of this coach is final year of contract are we going let every other school in conference use this recruit against us for next two years. I would like for administration try to explain this management of the program how this is going to improve program or how university is looked at especially when it comes to women’s sports and that basketball is top women’s sport at UND. I think that 2025 should be year where UND makes statement that they will not accept loosing and made change in all their major sports at the university. Quote
planet2county Posted Monday at 12:08 AM Posted Monday at 12:08 AM Objectively, Pemberton was 1st in scoring with a .529 FG%, 1st in total rebounds, 3rd in assists, 2nd in blocks, and 2nd in steals. Nobody compared Pemberton to Clark. The poster brought up the amount of Clark's turnovers per game indicating a leading scorer will probably be high in turnovers. I wasn't aware Pemberton was the point guard. 2019-2020- Fleecs had 0.6 assists per game, 2028-2019- Klabo had 1.3 assists per game, 2017-2018 - Freije had 1.3 assists per game, and 2016-2017- Freije had 1.3 assist per game. You should be happy, she is transferring. I am sure wbb will be at 20 wins next year. Quote
shep Posted Monday at 12:28 AM Posted Monday at 12:28 AM 28 minutes ago, ND-fan said: Chaves or Armacost is making change at hockey program for missing the playoffs for second straight year and still have winning program. Women’s basketball goes 10 years and has one season above 500 in last 7 or 8 seasons and this coach has record of 37% in five years survives without being let go how does this work. On top of this coach is final year of contract are we going let every other school in conference use this recruit against us for next two years. I would like for administration try to explain this management of the program how this is going to improve program or how university is looked at especially when it comes to women’s sports and that basketball is top women’s sport at UND. I think that 2025 should be year where UND makes statement that they will not accept loosing and made change in all their major sports at the university. Will the excuse be that they are too busy finding a hockey coach. I fear more transfers. Quote
NDRoots4Life Posted Monday at 02:14 AM Posted Monday at 02:14 AM 2 hours ago, ND-fan said: Chaves or Armacost is making change at hockey program for missing the playoffs for second straight year and still have winning program. Women’s basketball goes 10 years and has one season above 500 in last 7 or 8 seasons and this coach has record of 37% in five years survives without being let go how does this work. On top of this coach is final year of contract are we going let every other school in conference use this recruit against us for next two years. I would like for administration try to explain this management of the program how this is going to improve program or how university is looked at especially when it comes to women’s sports and that basketball is top women’s sport at UND. I think that 2025 should be year where UND makes statement that they will not accept loosing and made change in all their major sports at the university. Didn't they fire the soccer coach for pretty much pointing out the same thing? That the university doesn't care about women's sports. Quote
planet2county Posted Monday at 03:59 PM Posted Monday at 03:59 PM On 3/23/2025 at 8:05 AM, NDPROUD said: Objectively? The idea Pemberton can be compared to Clark, now that's totally insane. They are two completely different players. Clark plays with a team mentality, her assists prove that...Pemberton plays for herself. She turns the ball over all because of selfishness, not trying to assist one of her teammates to increase chances of scoring for the team. Clark turns the ball over trying to get the ball to her teammates. She's constantly looking for opportunties to score for the team, even if it's to assist her teammates to score. Clark makes her whole team look good with her selfless style of play. I will agree with you that the situations are different. Clark played for Lisa Bluder, who was a National Coach of the Year prior to Clark. Monika Czinano was All Big 10 and McKenna Warlock was on the Big 10 All Freshman team prior to Clark's arrival. Katie Martin and Gabbie Marshall were also on the team prior to Clark. Iowa was 23-7 the year prior to Clark's arrival. Top 25 recruiting classes in 2020, 2021, and 2022 according to ESPN Hoop Gurlz. Yes, totally different team situations. So, what UND players are at the level of Clark's teammates? Just providing some context, I know it isn't going to change your narrative Quote
HockeyHawk Posted Monday at 04:31 PM Posted Monday at 04:31 PM 14 hours ago, NDRoots4Life said: Didn't they fire the soccer coach for pretty much pointing out the same thing? That the university doesn't care about women's sports. Yeah it sounds like he supported the athletes during the title IX complaint and Chaves didn’t like that. When this many programs are failing on campus though there must be something going on in the department that is causing everyone to be falling short. 1 Quote
und1995 Posted Monday at 05:11 PM Posted Monday at 05:11 PM My enthusiasm for women’s basketball is near an all time low. Let the assistant coach take over/hire someone with potential and let’s not waste Schiller’s time with the program. 2 Quote
UNDDOM Posted Monday at 08:42 PM Posted Monday at 08:42 PM 4 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: It’s quiet here. not for long 1 Quote
Teeder11 Posted Monday at 08:48 PM Posted Monday at 08:48 PM 5 minutes ago, UNDDOM said: not for long I see what you did there. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted Monday at 09:06 PM Posted Monday at 09:06 PM Got boots on the ground at gfk looks like Chaves there and picked up why person from airport. couldn’t get a pic tho Quote
gfhockey Posted Monday at 09:08 PM Posted Monday at 09:08 PM 1 minute ago, gfhockey said: Got boots on the ground at gfk looks like Chaves there and picked up why person from airport. couldn’t get a pic tho Couldn’t tell if it was chaves or not with how baggy the clothes was but someone I can confirm was picked up from the airport 1 Quote
UNDDOM Posted Monday at 09:09 PM Posted Monday at 09:09 PM 1 minute ago, gfhockey said: Couldn’t tell if it was chaves or not with how baggy the clothes was but someone I can confirm was picked up from the airport Shouldn’t this be posted in the hockey page 😄 Quote
und1995 Posted Monday at 10:01 PM Posted Monday at 10:01 PM Since going D1, UND had a few successful seasons but it's gone downhill quickly. They have not had a 20+ win season since 2016-17. They have had a +.500 season 1 time since 2016-17. They've also had a losing conference record every year except 1 since 2016-17. How is this acceptable for a program that was ELITE at the Division 2 level? UND vs. NDSU Last 15 Games: 2-13 UND vs. SDSU Last 15 Games: 0-15 UND vs. USD Last 15 games: 2-13 UND is 4-41 in the last 45 games against the Dakota schools and we are expected to be okay with this level of results and coaching? This is coming from a long time fan and I am not okay this and no fans should be. UND has hired a new football coach and just let go the hockey coach. It's time they do the same with the women's basketball program. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted Monday at 10:05 PM Posted Monday at 10:05 PM 2 minutes ago, shep said: Hutter new Coach. Mal steps down. Bruh....for real? Quote
Hambone Posted Monday at 10:09 PM Posted Monday at 10:09 PM 3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Bruh....for real? Yep Quote
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