2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

[Oxbow6]

Commercial burglaries up 75% in NYC during lockdown. No doubt people are after the new 5G phones.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Not making a political statement, too good to pass up, just showing a clown. 

Wisconsin Assembly Speaker sparks outrage for telling voters it's 'incredibly SAFE to go out' - while dressed head to toe in protective gear - as people line up in state's controversial elections yesterday.

[Siouxphan27]

Ever since this thread started I can’t get this song out of my head-

 

[Oxbow6]

So apparently now if you have health issues from 5G radiation and EMF or some other underlying medical issues and are hospitalized but develope a cough and die you'll be classified as a COVID death on your death certificate. Interesting way to pad the numbers.

[MafiaMan]

51 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

Not making a political statement, too good to pass up, just showing a clown. 

Wisconsin Assembly Speaker sparks outrage for telling voters it's 'incredibly SAFE to go out' - while dressed head to toe in protective gear - as people line up in state's controversial elections yesterday.

What was “controversial” about it?  Are you suggesting that Governor Evers executive order suspending the election was somehow allowable under the Wisconsin Constitution?  

[southpaw]

26 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

What was “controversial” about it?  Are you suggesting that Governor Evers executive order suspending the election was somehow allowable under the Wisconsin Constitution?  

Getting back to the 5G topic at hand, instead of you defending any and all Fox News crazy talking points...

Let's say my G6 airplane crashes and I'm taken to the hospital in pretty bad shape. No guarantee I'll recover, but also no guarantee I'll die. Then, while in the hospital, I overdose on sizzurp and die. Which would go down as the cause of death on my death certificate?

All those people that die of the flu every year, do we think they didn't have underlying health issues? They still go down as a death from the flu.

[Oxbow6]

15 minutes ago, southpaw said:

Getting back to the 5G topic at hand, instead of you defending any and all Fox News crazy talking points...

Let's say my G6 airplane crashes and I'm taken to the hospital in pretty bad shape. No guarantee I'll recover, but also no guarantee I'll die. Then, while in the hospital, I overdose on sizzurp and die. Which would go down as the cause of death on my death certificate?

All those people that die of the flu every year, do we think they didn't have underlying health issues? They still go down as a death from the flu.

So why are reported pneumonia deaths down dramatically since mid January? A positive influenza test is required to be classified as a flu death. Right now COVID deaths are being reported based on symptoms.....not even a confirmed positive test.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

41 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

What was “controversial” about it?  Are you suggesting that Governor Evers executive order suspending the election was somehow allowable under the Wisconsin Constitution?  

Just what all the networks are calling it.

[UND1983]

7 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So why are reported pneumonia deaths down dramatically since mid January? A positive influenza test is required to be classified as a flu death. Right now COVID deaths are being reported based on symptoms.....not even a confirmed positive test.

Would be interested in an answer to this from all those that get their 5G talking points from CNN.  

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

13 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So why are reported pneumonia deaths down dramatically since mid January? A positive influenza test is required to be classified as a flu death. Right now COVID deaths are being reported based on symptoms.....not even a confirmed positive test.

Interesting point with lower pneumonia deaths. Maybe flu deaths are also down during this time?
What about the possibility of getting the flu and CoviD-19 virus at the same time?

[UND1983]

It's becoming clear that this is going to go down as the biggest overblown, farce in the history of this great country.  Many people said it from the beginning and are going to be proven correct.  Yet others are going to be left defending it, saying "what could've been".  

I said it last month and I will say it again:  this would not have played out the way it did, or anything close, if it wasn't an election year with the most hated incumbent in history on the ballot.  

[southpaw]

4 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Would be interested in an answer to this from all those that get their 5G talking points from CNN.  

There aren't enough tests for the living, so testing the dead has been put on the sideline. As was posted above, those who die and haven't been tested positive also aren't being counted.

[Oxbow6]

Plus the IHME models take into account the mitigation factor. To say the models have been disastrous is an understatement.

[southpaw]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

It's becoming clear that this is going to go down as the biggest overblown, farce in the history of this great country.  Many people said it from the beginning and are going to be proven correct.  Yet others are going to be left defending it, saying "what could've been".  

I said it last month and I will say it again:  this would not have played out the way it did, or anything close, if it wasn't an election year with the most hated incumbent in history on the ballot.  

Just shy of 2,000 people died yesterday in the U.S. Factor in it's about a 17 day delay between feeling symptoms and death and the U.S. isn't even close to out of the woods, yet.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, southpaw said:

There aren't enough tests for the living, so testing the dead has been put on the sideline. As was posted above, those who die and haven't been tested positive also aren't being counted.

Maybe not in Germany.

[UND1983]

1 minute ago, southpaw said:

Just shy of 2,000 people died yesterday in the U.S. Factor in it's about a 17 day delay between feeling symptoms and death and the U.S. isn't even close to out of the woods, yet.

Fear porn is no way to live your life.  

[southpaw]

3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Maybe not in Germany.

Literally from the Chair of the New York City Council Health Committe:
An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee [source]
 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

4 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

It's becoming clear that this is going to go down as the biggest overblown, farce in the history of this great country.  Many people said it from the beginning and are going to be proven correct.  Yet others are going to be left defending it, saying "what could've been".  

I said it last month and I will say it again:  this would not have played out the way it did, or anything close, if it wasn't an election year with the most hated incumbent in history on the ballot.  

I hope you are so right.
Opposite alternative is not so good.

[Siouxperman8]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Maybe not in Germany.

same is being reported here.  Just depends on who you depend on for your narrative.

 

[southpaw]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

Fear porn is no way to live your life.  

I'm not afraid of getting it. I'm afraid of spreading it to someone who is too weak to survive it.

[Walsh Hall]

18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So why are reported pneumonia deaths down dramatically since mid January? A positive influenza test is required to be classified as a flu death. Right now COVID deaths are being reported based on symptoms.....not even a confirmed positive test.

I saw a good video on this.  It's just the reporting period.  There is always a lag in the reporting cause of death and 2020 is no different than the prior years.  All the other years had substantially similar reports as 2020 for the same time periods.

[UND1983]

Minnesota has 73,966 deaths to go to reach the fear-based prediction that their super-smart Governor laid out for everyone.  

[southpaw]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

Minnesota has 73,966 deaths to go to reach the fear-based prediction that their super-smart Governor laid out for everyone.  

Fortunately, it's over and everyone is healthy now.

[UND1983]

Just now, southpaw said:

Fortunately, it's over and everyone is healthy now.

So you believe there is still a chance!  #hope

[Walsh Hall]