moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 This's it's a big deal in GF. Yet no mention of it yet. GF badly needs this. If you don't look out for yourself nobody will. 1 Quote
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Do you live in GF? Can you tell me why? Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, moser53 said: Do you live in GF? Can you tell me why? Lack of faith in local government. Don't share their vision about needed infrastructure improvements. 1 Quote
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Lack of faith in local government. Don't share their vision about needed infrastructure improvements. If your a conservative isn't local government-state government the best place for local decisions. Not to be a smart ass but is it the fact that you see to many people who may lean left on the city council and it's more about them than the tax? If the council was all conservatives would you take a closer look at it if they said we need this. Or are you just anti tax in general as many are. 1 Quote
OgieOgilthorpe Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 If this sales tax fails won't they just increase our water/city bills to pay for it? I'd rather share the load with all of GF PLUS anyone that shops here. 1 Quote
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: If this sales tax fails won't they just increase our water/city bills to pay for it? I'd rather share the load with all of GF PLUS anyone that shops here. I heard the average homeowner will save100.00 a year if it psses. Not 100% sure on that statement. 1 Quote
Kab Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Grand forks needs a lot of infrastructure and it won’t get done without sales tax with a sunset look a at south fargo now and the rediculous taxes on property some are trying to sell because of taxes and no one wants to buy because of the special assessments Quote
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, Kab said: Grand forks needs a lot of infrastructure and it won’t get done without sales tax with a sunset look a at south fargo now and the rediculous taxes on property some are trying to sell because of taxes and no one wants to buy because of the special assessments Ya and people in GF don't know or realize how the state has underfunded roads in GF for decades. Ken Vein pointed out on the radio that GF had to put millions into state roads because the state wouldn't fund us properly. People here are always pointing out what a high tax city GF is. Could it be that were high taxed here because the state has underfunded us for roads for decades. Maybe as high as a half a billion over 40 years. I've followed this that long. Thus putting more pressure on the property owner. Have I got any of this right Kab? 1 Quote
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kab said: Grand forks needs a lot of infrastructure and it won’t get done without sales tax with a sunset look a at south fargo now and the rediculous taxes on property some are trying to sell because of taxes and no one wants to buy because of the special assessments What was with that school bond or was it a property tax vote in Fargo last winter b4 the state legislature met? Quote
Kab Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Look to the west williston, minot , Jamestown even have funded projects by sales tax for projects that would have been property tax issues for parks, jails and roads. Williston just extended one and their county jail and huge indoor rec center are paid for. Good for them. i wonder how fargo gets interstate overpasses, these should be state paid and not local, I don’t know who pays for these. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 What is the sales tax in Grand Forks right now? Quote
streetsahead Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: What is the sales tax in Grand Forks right now? 1.75%. So total combined sales tax with ND's 5% is 6.75%. Quote
jdub27 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 They have defined usage for the money, a sunset on it and have promised no funds to go towards a new library, all things the first vote completely missed on. I think it passes this time around. That being said, I doubt it ever actually goes away, they never do.... Quote
Big Green Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 As long as Brown is the mayor I will not vote for a tax increase. I don't trust that Guy at all. Trim all the wants from the budget and pay for roads. Raising taxes is taking the easy way out. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Typical short sided view by many "anti-tax" people.........................you think only GF residence pay sales tax in GF? I'm in GF a lot from September thru April. I'll be part of that sales tax increase. I don't live in GF. How many non-GF residents will be in town for the big UND sports weekend starting this Friday? How many of them will buy something that contributes to the sales tax pot? 3 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Big Green said: Trim all the wants from the budget and pay for roads. Raising taxes is taking the easy way out. Totally agree with this but we now live in a society of an increasing amount of free loaders? "The wants" are a lot of those people. Good luck getting them off the books. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Typical short sided view by many "anti-tax" people.........................you think only GF residence pay sales tax in GF? I'm in GF a lot from September thru April. I'll be part of that sales tax increase. I don't live in GF. How many non-GF residents will be in town for the big UND sports weekend starting this Friday? How many of them will buy something that contributes to the sales tax pot? So do what everybody else does and tax hotel rooms and rental cars. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: So do what everybody else does and tax hotel rooms and rental cars. ..........and that approach will generate what in terms of dollars percentage wise in comparison to the sales tax increase? ..........and who is "everybody"? Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Seeing that Grand Forks has a lower sales tax than Fargo, Minot, and Williston makes me more accepting of it (I don't live in GF anymore, so I won't be voting anyway). GF is already higher than Bismarck, but there are certainly things GF does well that Bismarck struggles with which seem to make up for it, like snow removal. Quote
streetsahead Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Seeing that Grand Forks has a lower sales tax than Fargo, Minot, and Williston makes me more accepting of it (I don't live in GF anymore, so I won't be voting anyway). GF is already higher than Bismarck, but there are certainly things GF does well that Bismarck struggles with which seem to make up for it, like snow removal. This is my thought as well. GF would still be lower than Fargo, Minot and Williston with the increase. It's not like we're going to be setting a record for oppressive sales taxes. Quote
lawkota Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Does the 3/4 cent tax for the Alerus Center have an automatic sunset? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Anyone who votes no on this had better not have a problem endorsing THIS as the solution: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/omahas-answer-to-costly-potholes-go-back-to-gravel-roads.html #TANSTAAFL #civilizationworks Quote
Kab Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Many small towns are pushing 8% some counties are home rule counties so they impose tax also williams county is one of those everyone wants services but wants the state to pay for things we are the state, I would rather have some local control watch your taxes this year with the state taking the social service budget back from counties and not giving real estate tax buy downs i thInk the state comes out ahead on this one maybe the governor could fund his own projects and not ask for exemptions and buy downs on his projects Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: .........and who is "everybody"? Cities that already tax their citizens into oblivion and realize you can only raise the sales tax so far. Quote
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