darell1976 Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) These are teams that are dancing so far: OVC Champion: Austin Peay Ivy League Champion: Yale Edited March 6, 2016 by darell1976 Quote
UNDBB75 Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 4:04 AM, cowboys5xsbs said: SDSU Expand And how long has been Nagy been there? DII thru transition to DI. Quote
teamsioux Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 4:23 AM, UNDBB75 said: And how long has been Nagy been there? DII thru transition to DI. Expand ESPN stated 21 years during the game. Aaron Johnston has also been coaching the SDSU women for 16-17 years. They are also going dancing this year. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Holy Cross, with a 14-19 record, is going dancing. Quote
ArtVandalay Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 5:21 AM, teamsioux said: ESPN stated 21 years during the game. Aaron Johnston has also been coaching the SDSU women for 16-17 years. They are also going dancing this year. Expand Amazing he survived. They were awful the first 5 years in Division 1. Quote
darell1976 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 4:29 AM, SWSiouxMN said: Holy Cross, with a 14-19 record, is going dancing. Expand That finish was something. Lehigh had 4 chances at a 3 to tie the game at the end and missed them all. Good luck Holy Cross. Quote
UND Fan Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 4:39 AM, ArtVandalay said: Amazing he survived. They were awful the first 5 years in Division 1. Expand Either you are confusing SDSU/Johnston with another school or you are trying to make a point that coaches deserve a long time to get their programs successful. In SDSU's first five years of DI, they were 21-7, 19-9, 25-6, 23-7 & 22-11. That's a winning % of 70+ - not very "awful"! 2 Quote
Hayduke Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 10:30 AM, darell1976 said: That finish was something. Lehigh had 4 chances at a 3 to tie the game at the end and missed them all. Good luck Holy Cross. Expand It would have been more fun if they would have beat the Gophers to get in... 4 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 1:24 PM, UND Fan said: Either you are confusing SDSU/Johnston with another school or you are trying to make a point that coaches deserve a long time to get their programs successful. In SDSU's first five years of DI, they were 21-7, 19-9, 25-6, 23-7 & 22-11. That's a winning % of 70+ - not very "awful"! Expand Yep. http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=942527 Worst year was his first, when they went 15-12 (2000-01). Since then it's been banner raising, transition, and more banner raising. Quote
UND Fan Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 2:30 PM, UNDBIZ said: Yep. http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=942527 Worst year was his first, when they went 15-12 (2000-01). Since then it's been banner raising, transition, and more banner raising. Expand You are correct but AV's statement was that they were awful the first 5 years of DI. Their first year of DI was 2004-5 - they were 21-7 that year. Quote
ArtVandalay Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 2004-05. 10-18 2005-06. 9-20 2006-07. 6-24 2007-08. 8-21 2008-09. 13-20 My math puts that at 46-103. Awful. Quote
UND1983 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 5:17 PM, ArtVandalay said: 2004-05. 10-18 2005-06. 9-20 2006-07. 6-24 2007-08. 8-21 2008-09. 13-20 My math puts that at 46-103. Awful. Expand What does that have to do with anything? Who has ever gotten fired once the transition was over? Quote
ArtVandalay Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 5:26 PM, UND1983 said: What does that have to do with anything? Who has ever gotten fired once the transition was over? Expand Has everything to do with the conversation in this thread. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 4:39 AM, ArtVandalay said: Amazing he survived. They were awful the first 5 years in Division 1. Expand Two words: Nate Wolters Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 this thread is about who made the tournament this year. just saying.... 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 5:28 PM, ArtVandalay said: Has everything to do with the conversation in this thread. Expand You must be trying to relate it to UND/Jones somehow. I don't get it. The conversation is about SDSU making the tourney...to how long their coach has been there. Nobody gets fired after the transition to D1 basketball so what is your point? Quote
UND1983 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Also, how did SDSU get Daum? Kid is 6'9" with a huge wingspan, shoots 3's and has a full post game. Not the fastest kid in world but doesn't need to be. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 5:17 PM, ArtVandalay said: 2004-05. 10-18 2005-06. 9-20 2006-07. 6-24 2007-08. 8-21 2008-09. 13-20 My math puts that at 46-103. Awful. Expand Yes, your math is awful, 2008-09 was their first year when transition was done. His transition record 2004-05 through 2007-08 is 33-83. Like someone says who gets fired after transitioning from DII to DI especially when you are an Independent, there was no GWC for basketball during their transition. Quote
UND92,96 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 5:39 PM, UND1983 said: Also, how did SDSU get Daum? Kid is 6'9" with a huge wingspan, shoots 3's and has a full post game. Not the fastest kid in world but doesn't need to be. Expand He apparently had several offers, but none by the in-state Nebraska schools. I'm guessing McDermott is kicking himself a little bit over that decision. Quote
ArtVandalay Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 6:03 PM, darell1976 said: Yes, your math is awful, 2008-09 was their first year when transition was done. His transition record 2004-05 through 2007-08 is 33-83. Like someone says who gets fired after transitioning from DII to DI especially when you are an Independent, there was no GWC for basketball during their transition. Expand Just cleaning some things up on the topic. Someone mentioned 21-7 in 2004-05. Nagy barely survived those transition years. I remember it well. Quote
jdub27 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 6:03 PM, darell1976 said: Yes, your math is awful, 2008-09 was their first year when transition was done. His transition record 2004-05 through 2007-08 is 33-83. Like someone says who gets fired after transitioning from DII to DI especially when you are an Independent, there was no GWC for basketball during their transition. Expand He actually did Nagy a favor by inadvertently including SDSU's first year as a full D-1 school, it raised his winning percentage from 28.4% to 30.9%. It's not quite apples to apples because Nagy had quite a bit more time at SDSU before the transition, but if you count the four transition years and their first three years of D-1 play, Nag had a 79-131 record for a winning percentage of .376. For comparison, Jones record in that same time frame was 101-121 for a winning percentage of .455. Obviously Nagy had some pretty good years after that, having that Wolters kid blossom didn't hurt, but even if you include the 4th year out of transition for both schools (UND still obviously still having a few games left), Jones still has a higher winning percentage in that time frame, though that was the year Nagy punched his first ticket to the dance without even having come close prior. I'm not saying that one is better than the other, just laying out their records over a comparable time frame. There is no arguing that Nagy struggled big time during the transition and the first few years out of it. Quote
UND1983 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 6:52 PM, jdub27 said: He actually did Nagy a favor by inadvertently including SDSU's first year as a full D-1 school, it raised his winning percentage from 28.4% to 30.9%. It's not quite apples to apples because Nagy had quite a bit more time at SDSU before the transition, but if you count the four transition years and their first three years of D-1 play, Nag had a 79-131 record for a winning percentage of .376. For comparison, Jones record in that same time frame was 101-121 for a winning percentage of .455. Obviously Nagy had some pretty good years after that, having that Wolters kid blossom didn't hurt, but even if you include the 4th year out of transition for both schools (UND still obviously still having a few games left), Jones still has a higher winning percentage in that time frame, though that was the year Nagy punched his first ticket to the dance without even having come close prior. I'm not saying that one is better than the other, just laying out their records over a comparable time frame. There is no arguing that Nagy struggled big time during the transition and the first few years out of it. Expand Since Nagy made the NCAA tournament in his 4th year out of the transition, as it appears, and it's obvious that the comments in this thread were made to promote Jones vs. Nagy and their histories, UND should be putting on their dancing shoes Saturday night. Quote
UND92,96 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I believe Nagy's .780 winning percentage in nine years as a dII coach at SDSU bought him more time than most coaches would have gotten under the circumstances. 2 Quote
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