smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Math not your strong suite? Point out the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Point out the error. Read the SS MC actuary reports. No one is saying that they didn't pay into it but when you take out many times more than you put in someone has to make up the difference, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Read the SS MC actuary reports. No one is saying that they didn't pay into it but when you take out many times more than you put in someone has to make up the difference, right? How much more are people taking out than paid into it? Does this apply to your parents also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yeah the one that can argue with facts vs. unfounded debunked propaganda. Like before the last Presidential election with Benghazi as just one example? Got it...... Problem is all those constantly "taking" don't give a $#&@ about facts on any topic as long as they keep getting what's "owed" them. Carry on......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Like before the last Presidential election with Benghazi? Got it...... Problem is all those constantly "taking" don't give a $#&@ about facts on any topic as long as they keep getting what's "owed" them. Carry on......... Like BP? What did Romney build vs. what he took? Do you write off your therapy horse? We know all the righties who yake like there is no tomorrow don't care about facts. That is why when their facts are debunked by independent sources they still repeat them. Your concern with the number of embassy attacks under Bush and not CIA outposts is? By the way there was 13 of them and not a peep from Fox about them. Your concern of the 247 dead Marines in Beruit is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Like BP? What did Romney build vs. what he took? Do you write off your therapy horse? We know all the righties who yake like there is no tomorrow don't care about facts. That is why when their facts are debunked by independent sources they still repeat them. Your concern with the number of embassy attacks under Bush and not CIA outposts is? By the way there was 13 of them and not a peep from Fox about them. Your concern of the 247 dead Marines in Beruit is? Romney....... Righties........ No room for the imagination as to your leaning. Got to go...back to work...to pump more of my dollars into a system that continually and increasing rewards laziness, unaccountability, irresponsibility and entitlement. BTW...3 above now. Never question the mind that is All Gore!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 For one thing the actually cost vs. the purchasing power of the dollar needs to be included. Paying for their Social Security? They did. FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS...... USE THEM! Source: The College Board, Annual Survey of Colleges; NCES, IPEDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Romney....... Righties........ No room for the imagination as to your leaning. Got to go...back to work...to pump more of my dollars into a system that continually and increasing rewards laziness, unaccountability, irresponsibility and entitlement. BTW...3 above now. Never question the mind that is All Gore!!! I see you avoid answering. Typical response from the right. Through out as many rwn talking points... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I see you avoid answering. Typical response from the right. Through out as many rwn talking points... Don't be an a** watchma...ummmmm smokey. We don't see eye to eye on any of this. One example will only follow another. What's the point? Now go lay in bed and stare at your Keith Olbermann poster on your ceiling to calm yourself down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 smokey, are you ed schultz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS...... USE THEM! Source: The College Board, Annual Survey of Colleges; NCES, IPEDS. And what else has not gone up by much more? Blame the state legislatures for failing to fund higher education. You seem to think that I am in favor of how high tuition has gotten? Actually I dislike it as much as you do. I just don't vote for the people who caused it. It is wrong how much debt students have to take on to fund their education. Especially when the people that are causing it got their higher education at a nicely subsidized level that they now deny to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Don't be an a** watchma...ummmmm smokey. We don't see eye to eye on any of this. One example will only follow another. What's the point? Now go lay in bed and stare at your Keith Olbermann poster on your ceiling to calm yourself down... You are being your usual as% self I see. Start something and then run away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle_Rico Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Never thought I would see a blizzard warning thread get locked, but I guess there's a first time for everything. I remember a former poster named Watchmaker that used to contribute to that happening quite often. I wonder whatever happened to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 And what else has not gone up by much more? Blame the state legislatures for failing to fund higher education. You seem to think that I am in favor of how high tuition has gotten? Actually I dislike it as much as you do. I just don't vote for the people who caused it. It is wrong how much debt students have to take on to fund their education. Especially when the people that are causing it got their higher education at a nicely subsidized level that they now deny to others. You seem to have changed your tune since you disagreed with my assertion that students pay more for education today than those that are retiring did. You implied that retirees paid roughly the same amount, after factoring in inflation. You also said that students should pay the actual cost of tuition instead of asking the takers (retirees) to pay for it. Will you admit that you were wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You are being your usual as% self I see. Start something and then run away. Run away? Again you don't get it. Why bother continuing? My examples, facts or propaganda will just be "trumped" by your BS then my turn then your turn...... Waste of my time. Just as long as you don't go gfhockey on me..........or threaten to crack my skull with a bat. 7 above now............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 How much more are people taking out than paid into it? Does this apply to your parents also? It applies to everyone that draws (on average) 3-4 years. After that they're taking out more than they put in. You do realize that 50 years ago SS tax was hardly anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 LOL...I used to debate my late grandpa on this all the time. Up until the day he died (at 93 years old), he was certain the government had some sort of "trust account" for everyone on Social Security that their "investment" had been earning interest on until they retired. It never dawned on him that there was no way possible that the nickels and dimes taken out of his paycheck in the 1940's-1970's couldn't possibly turn into the thousands of dollars that he would receive monthly after he retired until he passed away in 2008. Do the math, smokey. He was one of millions. Back on topic: It's cold outside today but I don't think we have a blizzard on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You seem to have changed your tune since you disagreed with my assertion that students pay more for education today than those that are retiring did. You implied that retirees paid roughly the same amount, after factoring in inflation. You also said that students should pay the actual cost of tuition instead of asking the takers (retirees) to pay for it. Will you admit that you were wrong? You did not go back far enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Run away? Again you don't get it. Why bother continuing? My examples, facts or propaganda will just be "trumped" by your BS then my turn then your turn...... Waste of my time. Just as long as you don't go gfhockey on me..........or threaten to crack my skull with a bat. 7 above now............ Make a disparaging remark about my late father and we will see. You never produced any facts. Simple rwn propaganda talking points yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You did not go back far enough. What did I miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 What did I miss? That most retirees would have gone to college in the 40's-60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Make a disparaging remark about my late father and we will see. You never produced any facts. Simple rwn propaganda talking points yes. Is that a threat...watchmaker?? Doesn't matter the moniker you are still a pathetic individual under any handle BTW I'll be in your area the end of March....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Actually, the Winter Weather Advisory has been cancelled, it just came across the Wire from the National Weather Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Is that a threat...watchmaker?? Doesn't matter the moniker you are still a pathetic individual under any handle BTW I'll be in your area the end of March....................... Come and make a disparaging remark about my late father and we can see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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