Grand Forks Economy

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

On 6/14/2025 at 10:24 AM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i agree...developemnt aside...this is a beautiful course and needs to maintain it's 36 par and YES make it an even better course in improvements and  with a new clubhouse....

Why does it need to remain a par 36? If you're referring to you don't want it to be a par 3 course I'll get on board but not concerned if it ends up being a par 34 or 35.

I am on board though with the top golf set up though, I'm assuming that means we'd be able to hit some golf balls outside in the winterish months.  That would be awesome.

[nodak651]

39 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Why does it need to remain a par 36? If you're referring to you don't want it to be a par 3 course I'll get on board but not concerned if it ends up being a par 34 or 35.

I am on board though with the top golf set up though, I'm assuming that means we'd be able to hit some golf balls outside in the winterish months.  That would be awesome.

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It would be a draw for people who drive up for games from the Twin Cities as well. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

59 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Why does it need to remain a par 36? If you're referring to you don't want it to be a par 3 course I'll get on board but not concerned if it ends up being a par 34 or 35.

I am on board though with the top golf set up though, I'm assuming that means we'd be able to hit some golf balls outside in the winterish months.  That would be awesome.

the mockup (which if it's drawn up....it's gonna happen) has a par 33---trash

New course looks like a par 33 (no par 5s, and 3 par 3s - rest all par 4s)

not against any of this rrgc stuff.....it's just the quality/integrity of the course is primary.....

just find different spot with more room for the indoor stuff

[Kab]

Just get it done as presented with housing and the golf driving range .

if grand forks isn’t building more living spaces of all kinds it’s going to be left further behind than it is 

build what people want, Fargo and Bismarck are building snowbird type housing now where you actually own the space and pay for it and the hoa fees monthly, then sell when you move on.

build where there is actually infrastructure in place so the costs are lower , up not out .

[SIOUXFAN97]

7 minutes ago, Kab said:

Just get it done as presented with housing and the golf driving range .

if grand forks isn’t building more living spaces of all kinds it’s going to be left further behind than it is 

build what people want, Fargo and Bismarck are building snowbird type housing now where you actually own the space and pay for it and the hoa fees monthly, then sell when you move on.

build where there is actually infrastructure in place so the costs are lower , up not out .

manvel closed

lincoln sucks

valley kinda sucks

rr gonna suck balls

country club...using temp greens ...not a good look

king walks...nice but not for everyone

 

viable nice/good/great gold courses are more of a draw than a indoor golfing range....gf better UP their golf fame instead of ruining ANOTHER course...

just build this somewhere else....if rrgc goes to par 33 or 32 is it really "the home of und golf"....

[petey23]

21 hours ago, Hawkster said:

The one that Epic planned to build in Fargo won't happen.  Epic has much bigger problems then getting a water park built.

you might say that Epic is under water at this point.......I'll show myself out........try the veal

[Cratter]

21 hours ago, Und Princess said:

I agree!!! We have so many apartments already.  Probably don't need more apartments or there will be vacant apartments.  Because there's only so many people in the city. 

On average Grand Forks needs about two to four new apartment complexes a year to keep up with population growth.

 

[Und Princess]

47 minutes ago, Cratter said:

On average Grand Forks needs about two to four new apartment complexes a year to keep up with population growth.

 

Interesting!!!

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

manvel closed

lincoln sucks

valley kinda sucks

rr gonna suck balls

country club...using temp greens ...not a good look

king walks...nice but not for everyone

 

viable nice/good/great gold courses are more of a draw than a indoor golfing range....gf better UP their golf fame instead of ruining ANOTHER course...

just build this somewhere else....if rrgc goes to par 33 or 32 is it really "the home of und golf"....

Have any UND golfers actually set foot on Ray Dicks?  I've only ever seen them at King's Walk. Can't imagine playing a sloppy 9 hole course gets them ready for their tournaments all over the country. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

30 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Have any UND golfers actually set foot on Ray Dicks?  I've only ever seen them at King's Walk. Can't imagine playing a sloppy 9 hole course gets them ready for their tournaments all over the country. 

how about a sloppy par 32 with reachable par 4's with your 3 wood?

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

how about a sloppy par 32 with reachable par 4's with your 3 wood?

I love drivable par 4's, nothing better if it's got some good strategy. 

Throw a boomerang green on one of the holes at RR, this one at Sand Valley is a blast. Played it 4 times and still trying to figure out the best approach.

[SIOUXFAN97]

manvel needs to raise some money and reopen their reversable course....cool spot up there

[nodak651]

27 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

how about a sloppy par 32 with reachable par 4's with your 3 wood?

Sounds great, considering a Top Golf-like facility would also be included.

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Sounds great, considering a Top Golf-like facility would also be included.

i see what you did here....

[SIOUXFAN97]

7 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Sounds great, considering a Top Golf-like facility would also be included.

just close the golf course and put the whole project on the site....

 

[Big Green]

Isn't Top Golf a fad that is ending?  I've heard Top Golf locations are not doing well.  Not sure this it time to open a Top Golf type site.

 

[geaux_sioux]

11 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Why does it need to remain a par 36? If you're referring to you don't want it to be a par 3 course I'll get on board but not concerned if it ends up being a par 34 or 35.

I am on board though with the top golf set up though, I'm assuming that means we'd be able to hit some golf balls outside in the winterish months.  That would be awesome.

Are they still leaving the greens like shag carpet? Doesn’t matter what the layout is, I’ve always enjoyed Ray Dicks fwiw, when you have to hammer the ball to roll it 10’.

[HoopsFan03]

5 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

manvel needs to raise some money and reopen their reversable course....cool spot up there

Agree! Super underrated course they had

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Are they still leaving the greens like shag carpet? Doesn’t matter what the layout is, I’ve always enjoyed Ray Dicks fwiw, when you have to hammer the ball to roll it 10’.

There was actually a few years where they had the greens rolling really nicely.  I think it's slowed down a bit since though, that was a few years ago.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

2 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Agree! Super underrated course they had

It was a cool routing but the flooding was becoming an issue every year, not financially sustainable and it was in really bad shape the last few years.

[SIOUXFAN97]

11 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

It was a cool routing but the flooding was becoming an issue every year, not financially sustainable and it was in really bad shape the last few years.

doesn't the same river run thru the larimore course and the manvel course??? isn't there a dam to control that ?

[Brim006]

22 hours ago, Cratter said:

On average Grand Forks needs about two to four new apartment complexes a year to keep up with population growth.

 

Population growth? 4-5 apartment complexes per year? I'm assuming this is just a running inside joke I missed haha. At best GF has been stagnant, and most years actually getting smaller. Which is actually quite the impressive feat figuring all it's largest ND and SD peers are growing 10-25% in this same span. It's almost like Grand Forks is actively pushing to keep people out. I'm not sure how they're accomplishing it. 

 

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

12 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

Population growth? 4-5 apartment complexes per year? I'm assuming this is just a running inside joke I missed haha. At best GF has been stagnant, and most years actually getting smaller. Which is actually quite the impressive feat figuring all it's largest ND and SD peers are growing 10-25% in this same span. It's almost like Grand Forks is actively pushing to keep people out. I'm not sure how they're accomplishing it. 

 

"the brown years"

[fightingsioux4life]

18 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

Population growth? 4-5 apartment complexes per year? I'm assuming this is just a running inside joke I missed haha. At best GF has been stagnant, and most years actually getting smaller. Which is actually quite the impressive feat figuring all it's largest ND and SD peers are growing 10-25% in this same span. It's almost like Grand Forks is actively pushing to keep people out. I'm not sure how they're accomplishing it.

All that growth on the south end has to be for some reason. Is it so ghosts can find affordable places to live? 

[fightingsioux4life]

22 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

Population growth? 4-5 apartment complexes per year? I'm assuming this is just a running inside joke I missed haha. At best GF has been stagnant, and most years actually getting smaller. Which is actually quite the impressive feat figuring all it's largest ND and SD peers are growing 10-25% in this same span. It's almost like Grand Forks is actively pushing to keep people out. I'm not sure how they're accomplishing it.

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/oxford-realty-planning-to-develop-30-acres-of-land-near-future-altru-sports-complex

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Crary Homes and Real Estate says the new site will feature 119 available single-family lots, a 10-acre pond and a 10-acre park in its first phase.

So is this so Casper and his friends have a nice place to live?