The Sicatoka Posted September 30 Author Posted September 30 Say this UAC really does have legs and it's three of (DU / ORU / UMKC / UNO / UST ) ... That just might force the Dakota 4 to align and approach a low or wounded G5 conference (one that's needing or bleeding members) as the new "Northern Plains" division option. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 30 Posted September 30 47 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Say this UAC really does have legs and it's three of (DU / ORU / UMKC / UNO / UST ) ... That just might force the Dakota 4 to align and approach a low or wounded G5 conference (one that's needing or bleeding members) as the new "Northern Plains" division option. requires fenton to get his ass in gear 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 30 Posted September 30 2 hours ago, NewUndFan said: The Big Mountain Podcast is saying that 3 new schools within the United Athletic Conference footprint will be joining the conference soon. He said all 3 schools are D1. Does that mean we could lose Oral Roberts and Kansas City in the Summit? We lose 2 teams that would be devastating. St Thomas has one foot out the door and Denver is looking to get into a west coast conference. st thomas wouldn't leave for the uac...denver is a flight risk for sure...but if fenton says you leave the summit your ass is grass in the nchc bye bye bitches.... tony saprano style stuff 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted September 30 Posted September 30 27 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: st thomas wouldn't leave for the uac...denver is a flight risk for sure...but if fenton says you leave the summit your ass is grass in the nchc bye bye bitches.... tony saprano style stuff I dont think Denver or st thomas are at risk now. But in the future. The schools in the range are oral roberts, kansas city and omaha. Kansas city already tried to leave for the Missouri Valley. Still dont see what Fenton has done for the summit league. 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 On 9/30/2025 at 5:34 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: st thomas wouldn't leave for the uac...denver is a flight risk for sure...but if fenton says you leave the summit your ass is grass in the nchc bye bye bitches.... tony saprano style stuff Are you being serious? What does Fenton have to do with what the presidents of the majority of the NCHC member schools want? They already voted, per schollsman, and they did not want to associate with the Summit League. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 1 minute ago, nodak651 said: Are you being serious? What does Fenton have to do with what the presidents of the majority of the NCHC member schools want? They already voted, per schollsman, and they did not want to associate with the Summit League. totally serious....lock everyone into summit oly, football, and hockey. your either with us or against us... st thomas wants mvc=hello ccha omaha wants mvc=hello ccha denver wants big west=hello ccha ndac wants mwc football only=hello nsic 1 Quote
cberkas Posted October 6 Posted October 6 54 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: totally serious....lock everyone into summit oly, football, and hockey. your either with us or against us... st thomas wants mvc=hello ccha omaha wants mvc=hello ccha denver wants big west=hello ccha ndac wants mwc football only=hello nsic The whole AD would be MWC Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 6 Author Posted October 6 Dr. Luke Wood is Sac State's president. I'll have what he's having 'cause it must be some goo-oo-oo-ood stuff. 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 51 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Dr. Luke Wood is Sac State's president. I'll have what he's having 'cause it must be some goo-oo-oo-ood stuff. let the speculation begin!????!!!!!!! "new" wheres fenton 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 so big mountain fraudcast saying 3 schools to uac and sac state guy saying a "new" fbs conference.... this should be fun.... Quote
nodak651 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Dr. Luke Wood is Sac State's president. I'll have what he's having 'cause it must be some goo-oo-oo-ood stuff. That entire podcast is worth a listen. I've always thought of that guy as a Charlatan, but I gotta say, it's hard not to like the guy after listening to him. 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 6 minutes ago, nodak651 said: That entire podcast is worth a listen. I've always thought of that guy as a Charlatan, but I gotta say, it's hard not to like the guy after listening to him. cliff notes? any hints as to who will join them in their new FBS 1a conference? 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: cliff notes? any hints as to who will join them in their new FBS 1a conference? Nothing like that really, but the pod asks him difficult answerd and he isnt afraid to speak his mind. I think you would like him. 1 Quote
FSSD Posted October 7 Posted October 7 He was really pushing the new conference angle. What that means who knows. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 maybe sac state guy rally's the clans..... 4 dak's 3 bsc and sac state 3 time zones Quote
AJS Posted October 10 Posted October 10 On 9/30/2025 at 3:17 PM, NewUndFan said: The Big Mountain Podcast is saying that 3 new schools within the United Athletic Conference footprint will be joining the conference soon. He said all 3 schools are D1. Does that mean we could lose Oral Roberts and Kansas City in the Summit? We lose 2 teams that would be devastating. St Thomas has one foot out the door and Denver is looking to get into a west coast conference. 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted October 10 Posted October 10 3 hours ago, AJS said: There is one of 3 he was talking about. Any idea who the other two will be? Quote
FSSD Posted October 10 Posted October 10 53 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: There is one of 3 he was talking about. Any idea who the other two will be? OVC - SEMO and UT Martin Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 16 Author Posted October 16 More about Sac State: https://www.extrapointsmb.com/p/this-is-what-an-fbs-reclassification-application-looks-like Non-refundable $5M application fee? I ask because the application was denied. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45591501/ncaa-denies-sacramento-state-fbs-waiver-2026-season Quote
AJS Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Fenton is the WOAT. Get out of the Summit while you can. Like many others have said, should have rebranded and brought all sports under one umbrella. What was everyone's favorite Summit League memory? 1 Quote
Kab Posted October 31 Posted October 31 They better start talking to the big sky and get a east west split and put football in there too and start talking fbs for football with the mountain west if you loose either ndsu or sdsu to fbs i think football will be toast and the summit might end up without an auto bid leave hockey alone 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, AJS said: Fenton is the WOAT. Get out of the Summit while you can. Like many others have said, should have rebranded and brought all sports under one umbrella. What was everyone's favorite Summit League memory? Half the MVFC teams have no interest (why give a conference they aren't part of for their Olympic sports more control) and the NCHC is profitable and the majority of the teams wouldn't see any benefit. Not sure how you convince the teams against it to change their minds to do something that doesn't benefit them. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 31 Author Posted October 31 DU is making a self-preservation move. The enrollment cliff is here and it's going to hit small private schools hard. Go where there are potential students to recruit.. 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: Half the MVFC teams have no interest (why give a conference they aren't part of for their Olympic sports more control) and the NCHC is profitable and the majority of the teams wouldn't see any benefit. Not sure how you convince the teams against it to change their minds to do something that doesn't benefit them. True, but that was the only hope the Summit had to build anything of significance and value, long term. Non Summit schools and DU would have to have been strong armed into it, and it just wasn't possible with so few on board. The Summit had chance to do it with the MVFC, for example, but it would have been risky since the Summit FB schools would essentially have to have declared they were moving to the Summit League for FB and then hoped the MVFC schools came on board as affiliates. Same thing could have happened with hockey, but I'm pretty sure Omaha and UND were the only schools in the entire NCHC that had any interest in Summit hockey, and the risk would have been way to high should everyone else not follow suit, and UST was too early on to have any significance in the college hockey world. Heather weems seems to be doing a great job of driving the NCHC into the ground though, so perhaps membership would be interested in doing that just to get some more competent conf leadership. I wouldn't want that to happen unless NDSU and SDSU offered the same with their top programs though (FB). I totally get why neither Summit FB or Summit Hockey became a thing. It just sucks that the conference had members with 4 nationally prominant programs and none happened to full under the Summit's umbrella. With those FB and Hockey programs under the Summit umbrella, it would have done a ton to improve the Summits overall reputation and desireabilty. Perception is everything. They could have built some great synergies through media and licensing deals, but instead we have 3 seperate media deals that all are very much flawed in one way or another. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 47 minutes ago, nodak651 said: True, but that was the only hope the Summit had to build anything of significance and value, long term. Non Summit schools and DU would have to have been strong armed into it, and it just wasn't possible with so few on board. The Summit had chance to do it with the MVFC, for example, but it would have been risky since the Summit FB schools would essentially have to have declared they were moving to the Summit League for FB and then hoped the MVFC schools came on board as affiliates. Same thing could have happened with hockey, but I'm pretty sure Omaha and UND were the only schools in the entire NCHC that had any interest in Summit hockey, and the risk would have been way to high should everyone else not follow suit, and UST was too early on to have any significance in the college hockey world. Heather weems seems to be doing a great job of driving the NCHC into the ground though, so perhaps membership would be interested in doing that just to get some more competent conf leadership. I wouldn't want that to happen unless NDSU and SDSU offered the same with their top programs though (FB). I totally get why neither Summit FB or Summit Hockey became a thing. It just sucks that the conference had members with 4 nationally prominant programs and none happened to full under the Summit's umbrella. With those FB and Hockey programs under the Summit umbrella, it would have done a ton to improve the Summits overall reputation and desireabilty. Perception is everything. They could have built some great synergies through media and licensing deals, but instead we have 3 seperate media deals that all are very much flawed in one way or another. I agree with all of this. But I also see why it would have needed some seismic shift in something outside of anyone's control to make it anywhere near worthwhile for all the programs that aren't Summit/MVFC or Summit/NCHC. It wasn't like anyone who had membership in two (or three) of those entities had the political capital to force the issue, nor could they have threatened to go elsewhere. 1 Quote
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