sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Or how about they obey the law like the rest of us? I'll drink to that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLAW Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 I have a feeling that where the hockey players go the girls will follow. (No offense to the females on this board) The owner of The Edge wants the hockey players there, underage or not, because the hockey players bring in the girls and all the girls bring in the other guys, which makes for a packed bar and a nice cashflow! That is bar ownership 101, isn't it?! Ah yes... and we were there... hoping to take home any scraps thrown to the side. PS - I have a stop/PC/constitutional law argument pending before Judge Kirk... do I have a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 The 7th graders I teach do more drinking than I do. The worst part is social services is too backed up to do anything. Was anyone in Providence? After the game we found a keg in the arena and everyone started drinking. Then the NCAA stepped in so we moved to some bar. When we got to the airport, beer just appeared and we all had a good time (including the team). Lots of us were underage. I'm sure almost every player drinks, they shouldn't be at a bar whether they are doing it or not. I'd like to think our players have some intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I wonder if we are to expect a suspension for these players. I know Brandt got a one gamer for his pull tab incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I wonder if we are to expect a suspension for these players. I know Brandt got a one gamer for his pull tab incident. They should get 1-game suspensions for not using their noggins & going to a high-profile bar; not for ethical, moral or legal reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux Hockey Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 What really made me think was there first court appearance is Nov 5. I don't know if something like this would be handled in one court appearance or not(I am sure the lawyers on the board could help) but if it is just one appearance and they are suspended it would probably be for the Minny series. Not a good deal. That would be a big setback to the team if that is how it played out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 What really made me think was there first court appearance is Nov 5. I don't know if something like this would be handled in one court appearance or not(I am sure the lawyers on the board could help) but if it is just one appearance and they are suspended it would probably be for the Minny series. Not a good deal. That would be a big setback to the team if that is how it played out Why would the suspensions have to be for the Minnesota series? They should be suspended right away regardless of the court outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux Hockey Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Although this is different than the Brandt case because obviously if they would have had to be in the bar to get cited where as there could have been the possibility of Jake being innocent I know Blais said he was going to wait until after the court date to punish Jake. I am sure something will be figured out though so it works out well for the Minny series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tboneund Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 You can argue that the drinking age should be different, but the fact is they broke the law and should be punished for it. A one game suspension would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojordan23 Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I think Blais got it right if he did what I have been hearing... He apparently has banned ALL of his players from bars until after Christmas. I think this is a good move on his part, maybe the older guys will be more proactive about keeping their younger teamates out of bars. I have no way of verifying this, it is just what I read on one of the boards, but I thought it was a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I think Blais got it right if he did what I have been hearing... He apparently has banned ALL of his players from bars until after Christmas. I think this is a good move on his part, maybe the older guys will be more proactive about keeping their younger teamates out of bars. I have no way of verifying this, it is just what I read on one of the boards, but I thought it was a good idea. I will verify it. I posted it on USCHO; the whole team is banned from the bar scene until x-mas break. I also think that this is a good move on his part. I still have no idea if Blais will take any further action on Parise and Smaby for actually getting caught in the ordeal, or if he will view the "team punishment" as punishment enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I don't think what happened deserves a suspension. I'm a law and order type of guy, but this is such an incredibly insignificant indiscretion that I don't think it warrants a suspension. I'm not aware of other coaches suspending players for merely being in a bar underage or for underage drinking. I'm not sure why Blais needs to set a precedent in this case. The only caveat to my position is if Blais knew what was going on and specifically told his players to stay away from there. Then they should be suspended for disregarding their coach's order, but not for the actual indiscretion. People on this board are coming down harder on the boys than the posters over at POI. I think we all need to lighten up a little. On a related note, in many Minnesota cities, they are de-criminalizing "crimes" like this and are turning them into administrative citations (like speeding tickets) to make more administrative money for the City rather than having "fines" go to the the State coffers. Hopefully this trend continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmidtdoggydog Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 People on this board are coming down harder on the boys than the posters over at POI. I think we all need to lighten up a little. The driving force behind any comments I've made is selfishness. Anytime a player's indiscretions come to light, especially during the season, even if they are minor in nature, that player runs the risk of sanctions. One possibility is suspension. And as an ardent fan, one who wants to see UND do well and be victorious, I would much rather attend games and see the players on the ice and not sitting next to me in the stands due to an indiscretion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 When naming this thread, "jk" used what is called a "double entendre", either knowingly or unknowingly: "Minor Bar Trouble for the Boys" (the double meaning on minor). If you did this intentionally, you have a pretty good sense of humor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxvivor Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Any news out of GF if the the boys invovled in the "Minor bar situation" will be sitting or playing this weekend?? My guess would be they will be playing. Anyone want to start a poll?? HEHEHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Anyone want to start a poll?? HEHEHE If I were a bettin' man, I'd lay my next paycheck down on Redwing77 to start one--he appears to be the master pollster I'd bench Zach for physical reasons but would tell him it's because of the bar incident; Blais would probably face less resistance that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman0099 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I thought I read on USCHO that there would be no suspensions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I thought I read on USCHO that there would be no suspensions.... Somebody posted it in a thread on USCHO. That doesn't mean it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorov Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Somebody posted it in a thread on USCHO. That doesn't mean it's true. Unless you posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 You'd think that if Blais was going to give suspensions for the bar incident that something would have been mentioned by now. I mean, we're only three days away until the Yale series. Plus, it is kind of hard to just punish Parise and Smaby with suspensions just because they were the only two to get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorov Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 You'd think that if Blais was going to give suspensions for the bar incident that something would have been mentioned by now. I mean, we're only three days away until the Yale series. Plus, it is kind of hard to just punish Parise and Smaby with suspensions just because they were the only two to get caught. He was going to bench Greene last year for getting caught (a lot) by the ref, although there were many other penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 If I were a bettin' man, I'd lay my next paycheck down on Redwing77 to start one--he appears to be the master pollster I'd bench Zach for physical reasons but would tell him it's because of the bar incident; Blais would probably face less resistance that way BAH HUMBUG! Not to appear overconfident, I'd bet that they will NOT play. Here's why: The Sioux need to figure out how best to put points on the board when Zach is not in the equation. We don't want to be a one line team and taking Zach out voluntarily isn't an option. With an infraction, you can work on this dilemma and still have a viable reason for sitting Zach out. No, I'm not saying that Blais is hoping that Zach gets in trouble, but whenever a team takes the ice, they head right to Zach. If they can make the Sioux offense into a threat without Zach, just think about what it will be like with him on the ice? With Matt- Blais doesn't take any crap. PERIOD. He will not tolerate a freshman foisting an attitude of invulnerability. It's a "know your role" type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I would be willing to bet that the Coaches are not going to sit the players in question for something minor like this. Big whoop they got a Minor. Be happy they aren't fighting in the bars down town. I am sure the players were talked to, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 The Sioux need to figure out how best to put points on the board when Zach is not in the equation. We don't want to be a one line team and taking Zach out voluntarily isn't an option. With an infraction, you can work on this dilemma and still have a viable reason for sitting Zach out. No, I'm not saying that Blais is hoping that Zach gets in trouble, but whenever a team takes the ice, they head right to Zach. If they can make the Sioux offense into a threat without Zach, just think about what it will be like with him on the ice? I'm sure the Sioux will get plenty of time to find out how the offense works without Zach from Dec 27 - Jan 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPoS Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 You'd think that if Blais was going to give suspensions for the bar incident that something would have been mentioned by now. I mean, we're only three days away until the Yale series. Plus, it is kind of hard to just punish Parise and Smaby with suspensions just because they were the only two to get caught. so in other words it is ok as long as others do it, but don't get caught?!?! C'mon! There is some scary repercussions to thinking like that! IMO, the small matter won't have them benched...but then again, you guys don't care what Gopehrs fans think anyways! And in that case I say throw the book at 'em! WPoS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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