Siouxperfan7

The key phrase that you need to take note of: The University of North Dakota will be removed from any list of institutions not in compliance with the policy......provided the University remains in compliance with the terms of the Settlement Agreement and this Amendment." So in order to remain of the list of instituions not in compliance with the policy, and have the ability to host NCAA playoff games, it must be compliant with the terms of the settlement agreement which required UND to have a new nickname. I am not sure how people can think there is any grey area here. It is that simple. It is in black and white, in writing signed by Wayne Stenehjem representing the University of North Dakota.

Sitting in your mom's basement wearing your worn out Nomar t-shirt from 2001, watching Cheers, and drinking a warm boston lager does not count as being in Boston!!

#6 Paul Ladue exercises the .6 demons from last year and nets the game winner. 3-2 for the boys in green, sending the bean town faithful home crying in their Boston lager!!

They don't have to enact any new rules. That is why it won't be hard for the NCAA to enforce a agreed settlement agreement. Sure you can speculate that they will do nothing. But is it really worth the risk?

NoiseInsideMyHead, you need to start listening to the noise being made by people on this thread. It really is this simple. UND signed a settlement that said they will either gain approval from namesake tribes or select a new name if approval is not obtained. There does not have to be a standing rule in place for them to enforce this. This rule only applies to the parties listed on the settlement agreement. IF you think that the NCAA is too busy with other things to be concerend about a small school in podunk North Dakota, you are worng. They certainly cared enough to fight UND in court. Again, as stated before, if UND decides to go with no nickname, all the NCAA needs to do is point to the settlement agreement and inform UND they are in breach of contract. How much time would that take an NCAA lawyer, about 2 minutes in an email? I think they have time for that.

I am not sure what part of "If UND does not adopt a new nickname and logo......" that people don't seem to understand. And that includes Goehring, the commitee, and Kelley. The NCAA is not going to allow UND to have no nickname. They clearly state that UND needs a new name in the settlement. It is there in black and white. Why would they do this? I think it is fairly obvious that without a current nickname, many people still refer to UND as the "Fighting Sioux". this is exactly what the NCAA doesn't want and why they stipulate that a new name must be selected. In the absense of a name, people will use the old name. The NCAA has remained silent so far as we had the "cooling off perid" and are currently in the process of selecting a new name. I would bet that if the commitee recommends no name and Kelley signs off on it, the NCAA will have a problem with that. All they would need to do is wave the settlement agreement in Kelley's face and let him know that UND is in violation.

http://www.ag.nd.gov/ncaa/SettlementAgreement.pdf Section 2, part d (on page 6) "If UND does not adopt a new nickname and logo, or if the transition to a new nickname and logo is not completed prior to August 15, 2011, then UND will be returned to the list of institutions subject to the Policy." Obviously the state law that passed messed with the dates stated on the settlement. But the settlement agreement clearly states, as you can see, that UND must adopt a new nickname and logo. And I think that if UND has a breach of cotract, the NCAA would have an issue. I am not sure why Goehring and Kelley say that having no name is an option. Unless they had an agreement with the NCAA that nobody else knows about. I am just going off of the facts that are available to me.

The people that want no nickname are people that want to keep referring to UND as the Fighing Sioux. Having no name allows them to do so. While sure it is a way to get around the fact the name is retired, it is precisely why the NCAA stated in the settlement that a new name must be selected. Having no name allows UND to "unnofficially" still be the Fighting Sioux. And the NCAA knew this. If this is te path UND wants to go down, the NCAA will have issue with it.

I would hope that these concerns have been up to at least one person on the committee and that it would be brought up to Kelley when they submit the finalists. I would think that the committee would make a suggestion on how the finalist names would be voted on. But you know what they say, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills first!!!

This game is earily similar to what we saw in 2011. We had the Pony Express line that dominated all year long. We played in an arena basically 90% filled with our fans. Michigan shut down our top line and had a hot goalie that shut us out. The story line in 2015 is very similar except roles reversed!!

I think we can all agree that only stakeholders, as mentioned above, should get the final vote.

No nickmame supporters = Fighting Sioux Forever crowd = hockey only fans. In my opinion, The majority of people in each one of these groups can be lumped in to one group. And that group are the ones that are holding back this University from moving forward. My question is are you a fan of the Fighting Sioux name, or a fan of the University of North Dakota. If you truly are a fan of the University of North Dakota, you will cheer your team on no matter what name they are called. If you are just a fan of the name and logo, you will contiue to wear your Sioux clothing at games and stubornly cheer for the old name even after a new one has been adopted. I understand the feeling that you have for the Fighting Sioux name. I have lived in Grand Forks for my entire life. Grew up cheering for the Sioux at a very young age. There is a deep sense of pride that goes with the Sioux name and the teams that played to represent it. But the time has come to accept the reality that the name is gone and it is time to move on to the next chapter of UND athletics. No one said you have to burn all your Fighting Sioux apparel and erase the momory of the Fighting Sioux name forever. All I ask is for those people to stop holding the University back and handcuffing the rest of us UND fans and join us and unite under a new name.

Having the last change for the game is pretty huge. Need to contain that top line of theirs.

So spend all this time gathering results from an initial survey in how a new name should be selected and determine what criteria are important, form a committee to oversee the process, take submissions of tens of thousands of people submitting their ideas and reason for a new nickname, and after all that make just "North Dakota" an option? While I get your reasoning for wanting it, I highly doubt that UND would go thru all this trouble of trying to select a new name and then make it an option to not have one. Most nlikely not going to happen. ALso, what about the people who want to move forward and select a new name that our teams and fans can rally around? I don't think having no nickname appeases them?

The officiating during the entire tournament was poor. Last nigh was no exception. For as many calls that went in favor of of Duke, there were just as many calls that went in favor of the Badgers. Pretty sure the refs could have called more than 2 fouls on Sconi in the first half. You can be upset with the officiating all you want, but it did not cost the Badgers the game. Scoring only 5 points in the final 5 minutes of the game cost them the game.

4 year, 575 million construction job to update Wrigley field. Left and center field bleachers will be done mid may, and right field bleachers expected to be done a month after that. Although it did look strange seeing no fans out there, The Cubs made up for it with pictures of Mr Cub, Ernie Banks on the netting to cover the empty seats.

Coyotes?? I think that one is already taken by folks down in Vermillion!!!

I certainly hope you are right. And yes, I meant to include UND staff as well.

One thing that kind of bugs me is listening to Goehring on UND Sports Weekly, he said that once the names have been narrowed down to 3 or 4, everyone will have an opportunity to vote. Everyone?? I have no problem with letting anyone under the sun make suggestions, because there may be a name no one has thought of. But when it comes down to actually selecting the name, I think that only stakeholders in UND atletics (Grand Forks residents, UND students, UND alumni, Champions Club members, and season ticket holders) should be allowed to decide what name UND athletic teams will be known as. I don't want some guy from Texas, a UND hating Gopher fan in Edina, or some idiot that is a regular UND basher on Bisonville to decide the nickname that UND will go by from here on out.

"All names sound strange the first time you hear 'em. What, you telling me people loved the name Blanche the first time they heard it?" (Props to all who get the reference)

If there was a name that was in our back pocket that everyone was on board with, it would be great. Unfortunately that is not the case. The new name is not going to get 100% approval and support the day it is announced. Some poeple will love it, others will want what they voted for, and others will still hold true and be "Fighting Sioux Forever" fans. This process isn't going to be pretty and certainly is not going to end pretty as well. I guess we can only hope that once a new name is selected, we can all rally around it and support it. Easier said than done obviously.

Hak has said he would rather play in front of a packed house of the opposing team than and empty building, in regards to Regionals. I think he probably feels the same way here. I think that it will add extra motivation to beat these guys on a large stage in their home city. Not that you need extra motivation when you are playing in the National semifinal, but you can still use it.

Nodaks, while I am not a big fan of, I believe is the only other name that would work. You could probably get by without even coming up with a new lgo and just use the interlocking ND. But one of the attributes the commitee is looking for is "being a unifying and rallying symbol". Does Nodaks really get me that excited? Not really.

Do a quick google search for "Roughrider team" and you will see that there are several teams already called Roughriders. While it does relate to the state, it is deffinitely not unique. Any you suggest to have a logo like the Cedar Rapids one?!! I want something that not only is relative to North Dakota, but is truly unique. University of North Dakota Nokota's (Nokes) I think that they could come up with a pretty sweet logo as well.

Two of the most important attributes laid out by the committee in the first survey that is mentioned on the new survey are Be unique, recognizable, inspiring, and distinctly UND’s. Be representative of the state and region in a way that honors the traditions and heritage of the past but also looks to the future. The best name that fits both these criteria is "Nokota." No other school, or team in the world, has that that name and logo for a nickname. There are tons of Warriors, Jets, Flyers, even Roughriders. But there would be only one Nokota (or Nokes). Also, this is our state horse. It is representative of the state. Nokota are unique to North Dakota. One of the many thinkgs that made "Fighting Sioux" such a great name is that is was unique and it honored the heritage of our state. Nokota does both of these as well. And is why I suubmitted it as my suggestion.